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The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

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Our worldly overlords.
You mean billionaires? Bill Gates is not an overlord in any meaningful sense.

Anyway, billionaires or health philanthropists or presidents of the United States will all die, but the world will keep producing more.
 
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but the world will keep producing more
Of course... as it always has. But often the chains are broken. The real threat is a system that grows as it's creators die. Look at how the founders of Corporatism have come and gone yet it still grows to the point of world dominance as it's builders continue to fall. The world has always been about two platforms, one of God's will and the other the will of man and the fallen elohim. This time the product of self interest has finally become truly global.
 
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True, many like to rule, even enslave, but it's never been a global success like Corporatism.
An even greater success than Corporatism, and inherently more harmful, is financial sorcery, which has put all the nations into unrepayable odious debt. Those overlords have been around for millennia and they are the drivers of Corporatism.
 
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‘Flying syringes’ and conspiracies: The far-right battle for a mosquito control board


Shasta County had to choose someone for a seat on the Shasta Mosquito and Vector Control District board.

Just continuing the Shasta County saga

Shasta County appoints public health officer who fought COVID-19 vaccine mandates

The mostly rural Northern California county has struggled to hire a public health officer — the person responsible for preventing the spread of infectious diseases, enforcing government health orders and ordering quarantines — since Ramstrom’s firing in May 2022 [for following state mandates requiring masks and vaccinations during the pandemic].

After at least three failed attempts to hire for the position, the Board of Supervisors in June lowered the job requirements [removing either a public health degree or experience]

[During the height of COVID] Residents regularly threatened elected officials and public health workers over COVID mandates during supervisors’ meetings.

All the while, Shasta County consistently had one of the lowest vaccination rates and highest rates of death from COVID-19 in the state.

[Newly appointed family physician James] Mu was one of 12 Shasta County physicians who, in February 2022, publicly signedan “Open Letter on COVID-19” that decried vaccine mandates, the testing of asymptomatic people and “the physical, psychological, and social impacts of mask and vaccine mandates on children.”

The letter stemmed from a public forum at Pathway Church in Redding in which those physicians promoted the use of home remedies — including vitamins and iodine nasal sprays — to prevent and treat COVID-19.
 
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Is this thread the appropriate place to post about MAGAs sending death threats to those Republican House members who won't vote for Jim Jordan?
That fits the theme far better than my determination to keep talking about Shasta County. Fire away.
 
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Congressman Ken Buck from Colorado has received death threats and an eviction notice for not voting for Jim Jordan.
Death threats are obviously bad, and quite on brand for this thread.

But isn't the eviction notice perfectly in line with recent court decisions letting businesses discriminate against those they feel cast them in a bad light?
 
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Death threats are obviously bad, and quite on brand for this thread.

But isn't the eviction notice perfectly in line with recent court decisions letting businesses discriminate against those they feel cast them in a bad light?

The eviction notice could be from multiple causes. I left it in since it was part of the original headline and story.
 
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The state has attempted to act. Likely there will be a legal fight over it.

California lawmakers vote to limit when local election officials can count ballots by hand

[The law prevents hand counting for areas with more than 1,000 voters. Shasta is much larger than that, so the law, if signed by Newsom, would prevent Shasta from hand-counting.]
One would think so, but...

Shasta County ditched its Dominion voting machines. Now, residents are braced for turmoil on Nov. 7

Gov. Gavin Newsom and other state officials then stepped in to stop the plan [to hand count]. On Oct. 4, Newsom signed a law limiting counties from hand-counting ballots. In response, Patrick Jones, chair of the Board of Supervisors, said he favored such a count anyway, declaring in the local newspaper: “I believe [the new law] does not affect Shasta County.

“We made this decision before the Legislature acted,” Jones, the board chair, told ABC News. “If they try to stop us from hand-counting, then there will be litigation.” He also spoke about taking recently purchased voting machinery out of service.

In response to an email from The Times with questions about those comments, Jones responded with a single word: “No.”

But the county’s longtime registrar-recorder, Cathy Darling Allen — the only Democrat elected to countywide office — ... said she plans to follow state law as she counts the votes. And that, she said, means using machines the county has bought to replace the Dominion ones.

That stance has infuriated some county residents who subscribe to conspiracy theories that elections have been riddled with fraud because of technology.

“It kinda fries my muffins because Shasta County is the reddest, most Republican county in the state of California. Democrats can have the rest of the state,” Kim Moore told the Board of Supervisors this week. “If you don’t like it, get the [heck] out! Republicans deserve at least one county in this state that belongs to us!”
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“I’m getting sick and tired of this registrar,” said a caller, who gave his name as “Stones,” ...

“Well, you know, there has to be a way to get rid of her. I mean, period,” answered host Terry Rapoza, a leader in the State of Jefferson movement for conservative Northern California counties to secede from the rest of the state.
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“Hopefully, we have a peaceful election, and we count the votes, and that’s the end of it,” [the registrar] said. But “it doesn’t escape me that we need to be cognizant and prepared to protect the safety of the ballots, our staff and voters.”
 
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Congressman Ken Buck from Colorado has received death threats and an eviction notice for not voting for Jim Jordan.
Ken Buck will not run for reelection.

Rep. Ken Buck to retire from House, cites election denialism by others in GOP

“Our nation is on a collision course with reality, and a steadfast commitment to truth, even uncomfortable truths, is the only way forward,” Buck said in a video posted to X, formerly known as Twitter. “Too many Republican leaders are lying to America.”

[In addition to election denialism, Buck points to false GOP narratives about Jan 6]

“These insidious narratives breed widespread cynicism and erode Americans’ confidence in the rule of law,” Buck said.

Former president Donald Trump cheered and mocked Buck’s decision Wednesday night, deriding the Colorado Republican as someone who “knew long ago he could never win against MAGA”

Buck’s announcement came hours after Rep. Kay Granger (R-Tex.) also said she would not seek reelection next year.

Like Buck, Granger was one of the roughly two dozen Republicans who opposed Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) for the speakership last month — and who drew criticism from hard-right parts of the Republican base for doing so.

[Granger is 80, so it's not unreasonable for her to hang up her spurs.]
 
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Trump codefendant Harrison Floyd. He's also indicted for assaulting a federal officer when he was served with a subpoena in the Trump-related case.


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Trump codefendant Harrison Floyd. He's also indicted for assaulting a federal officer when he was served with a subpoena in the Trump-related case.


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Why must we act politically the same way that our DNA says to outcompete other forms of life?
Isn’t it a main tenet of Christianity that (with Divine assistance) we possess the ability to transcend what our DNA “wants”?
 
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Isn’t it a main tenet of Christianity that ... we possess the ability to transcend what our DNA “wants”?
I think that's a main tenet for just about everyone. Even absurdly racist genetic determinists probably use birth control at some point in their lives.
 
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