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If you want to say he is removing his mandate then yes, but I would say it's more of a fulfillment. When the full number of saints inherit the earth there will be no more death, meaning the earth will stay filled. Besides, people will still cultivate the earth and subdue it.

In Genesis, Adam and Eve were enjoying an Edenic paradise there is the mandate to be fruitful and multiple. However, Adam's death was spiritual, he died in the day (beyom) within a 24 hour period when he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He became estranged and eternally separated from God. He was basically kicked out of the Garden where the presence of God walked and spoke to him. But also he lost his eternal rest in heaven which Christ restored.

In Matthew 22:30, At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels [CELESTIAL] in heaven [CELESTIAL].

I ask you what are the angels like within heaven??? Are they flesh and blood beings???


Also, Isaiah 65:23 after the New Heavens and New Earth is created there will be child bearing and offspring produced how can this be if there are no marriages post-Resurrection???
But there will also be sin, death, aging, and corpses too.

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In Genesis, Adam and Eve were enjoying an Edenic paradise there is the mandate to be fruitful and multiple. However, Adam's death was spiritual, he died in the day (beyom) within a 24 hour period when he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He became estranged and eternally separated from God. He was basically kicked out of the Garden where the presence of God walked and spoke to him. But also he lost his eternal rest in heaven which Christ restored.

In Matthew 22:30, At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels [CELESTIAL] in heaven [CELESTIAL].

I ask you what are the angels like within heaven??? Are they flesh and blood beings???


Also, Isaiah 65:23 after the New Heavens and New Earth is created there will be child bearing and offspring produced how can this be if there are no marriages post-Resurrection???
But there will also be sin, death, aging, and corpses too.

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Now I'm confused. You say that the resurrection and the parousia occurred in 70ad, and Paul tells us that we who are alive at the time will be changed in an instant.

Thus, even if there's still death and newborns, we shouldn't still be marrying and giving in marriage. But we are. Am I missing something?
 
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Now I'm confused. You say that the resurrection and the parousia occurred in 70ad, and Paul tells us that we who are alive at the time will be changed in an instant.

Thus, even if there's still death and newborns, we shouldn't still be marrying and giving in marriage. But we are. Am I missing something?
Yes, and we were changed in a twinkling of eye, the Resurrection had occurred, when we die today there is no more Hadean Paradise anymore that held all of the OT and NT saints prior to the AD. 70 Parousia. Now when we pass from life we pass into life because we are immediately caught up into Heaven. But remember the dead in Christ rise [ROSE] first (circa A.D. 70).

Also, getting back to Isaiah 65:23, we have this excellent passage from Ezekiel (and no doubt this Messianic passage or another is why the Sadducees inquired of Jesus concerning the Resurrection in relation to Torah law):

“David My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; I WILL ESTABLISH THEM AND MULTIPLY THEM, and I will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore. My tabernacle also shall be with them; indeed I will be their God, and they shall be My people. The nations also will know that I, the Lord, sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.” ’ ” Ezekiel 37:24-28
 
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Yes, and we were changed in a twinkling of eye,
We were? You were alive in 70ad?
the Resurrection had occurred, when we die today there is no more Hadean Paradise anymore that held all of the OT and NT saints prior to the AD. 70 Parousia. Now we are immediately caught up into Heaven. But remember the dead in Christ rise first (circa A.D. 70).
And we who are alive are caught up with them to meet the Lord in the air.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV — Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

So, how are we already changed, when we aren't yet caught up?

The biggest problem I see with your theology is that there is no actual resurrection like Jesus experienced. And if there is no resurrection, our faith is vain--there's no point to it. You can pretend that people were whole in Hades, but they weren't--because they didn't have bodies. And Peter explicitly tells us that we can know that David was still dead and buried, because his bones were still in the sepulchre. Peter and Paul were both expecting a physical resurrection, and were still hopeful of such. You've taken away their hope.
 
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In Genesis, Adam and Eve were enjoying an Edenic paradise there is the mandate to be fruitful and multiple. However, Adam's death was spiritual, he died in the day (beyom) within a 24 hour period when he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He became estranged and eternally separated from God. He was basically kicked out of the Garden where the presence of God walked and spoke to him. But also he lost his eternal rest in heaven which Christ restored.

In Matthew 22:30, At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels [CELESTIAL] in heaven [CELESTIAL].

I ask you what are the angels like within heaven??? Are they flesh and blood beings???


Also, Isaiah 65:23 after the New Heavens and New Earth is created there will be child bearing and offspring produced how can this be if there are no marriages post-Resurrection???
But there will also be sin, death, aging, and corpses too.

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One thing to keep in mind is that this prophecy was before Christ’s first advent. The “new things” spoken about include the messianic kingdom, inclusion of the Gentiles, and the new heaven and earth (see Is 42:9; 43:19). God uses the church as the means to bring about the new earth; it is a process because there are still more yet to be saved.
he lost his eternal rest in heaven which Christ restored.
I have a question for you. If God only intended to restore heaven and not earth, and death was supposedly occurring before the fall as well, why the dramatic scene of them being kicked out of the garden (see Ge 3:22,23)?
However, Adam's death was spiritual, he died in the day (beyom)
And as I said before, sin brings about death (see James 1:15). The threat was not just a loss of fellowship but physical death. Spiritual death happened the moment he disobeyed and death caught up to him eventually.
In Matthew 22:30, At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels [CELESTIAL] in heaven [CELESTIAL].

I ask you what are the angels like within heaven??? Are they flesh and blood beings???
No, this is not saying they will be like the angels in every way. It means there will be no more need for births.
 
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We were? You were alive in 70ad?

And we who are alive are caught up with them to meet the Lord in the air.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV — Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

So, how are we already changed, when we aren't yet caught up?

The biggest problem I see with your theology is that there is no actual resurrection like Jesus experienced. And if there is no resurrection, our faith is vain--there's no point to it. You can pretend that people were whole in Hades, but they weren't--because they didn't have bodies. And Peter explicitly tells us that we can know that David was still dead and buried, because his bones were still in the sepulchre. Peter and Paul were both expecting a physical resurrection, and were still hopeful of such. You've taken away their hope.
EDITED, I quoted a couple of incorrect verses.

Paul in Hebrews 9:8,26,28 is first speaking about Heaven [Holiest of all] then the physical temple in Jerusalem [First Tabernacle, Mosaic Age] then he speaking about heaven again. Then he speaks about Christ dying on the cross during end of the world [age] and will appear a second time for salvation which is the Parousia A.D 70. Hebrews 9:28 and 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 are the same event.

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Hebrews 9:8,26,28

No one has ascended into heaven.
No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. John 3:13

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 [Hebrews 9:8,28; 1 Thessalonians 4:16]

For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven. Matthew 22:30

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 1 Corinthians 15:50

And the dead in Christ will rise first. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 [Hebrews 9:8, 28 raised from Hadean Paradise]




Everything was fulfilled in A.D.70:

and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. Daniel 12:7

For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. Luke 21:22

that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation,
from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation. Luke 11:50-51

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Matthew 5:17-18 [Hebrews 9:8,28; 8:13]

Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. Matthew 23:36

Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. Matthew 24:34

For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.” Mark 8:38

Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place. Luke 21:32


For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Matthew 16:27-28

For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God. Luke 9:26-27


Paul didn't believe in a physical resurrection.
 
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1. One thing to keep in mind is that this prophecy was before Christ’s first advent. The “new things” spoken about include the messianic kingdom, inclusion of the Gentiles, and the new heaven and earth (see Is 42:9; 43:19). God uses the church as the means to bring about the new earth; it is a process because there are still more yet to be saved.

2. I have a question for you. If God only intended to restore heaven and not earth, and death was supposedly occurring before the fall as well, why the dramatic scene of them being kicked out of the garden (see Ge 3:22,23)?

3. And as I said before, sin brings about death (see James 1:15). The threat was not just a loss of fellowship but physical death. Spiritual death happened the moment he disobeyed and death caught up to him eventually.

4. No, this is not saying they will be like the angels in every way. It means there will be no more need for births.


1. The physical Old Covenant of flesh gave way to spiritual reality in Christ.

2. What did the Garden represent before the Fall? Answer this question and it will give you the answer why they were kicked out of the Garden - alive. Hint: sin happened.

3. Yes, sin brought about spiritual death but sin also can lead to physical death within a day (beyom) too. But the latter didn't happen in a day after the Fall as "promised".

4. No, the text properly says we will be like the angels within heaven. We will have the likeness of angels in God's heaven.
 
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1. The physical Old Covenant of flesh gave way to spiritual reality in Christ.

2. What did the Garden represent before the Fall? Answer this question and it will give you the answer why they were kicked out of the Garden - alive. Hint: sin happened.

3. Yes, sin brought about spiritual death but sin also can lead to physical death within a day (beyom) too. But the latter didn't happen in a day after the Fall as "promised".

4. No, the text properly says we will be like the angels within heaven. We will have the likeness of angels in God's heaven.
1. I would agree with that in general terms yes. It helped pave the way for Christ's first advent.

2. The garden didn't represent paradise, it was paradise! It is even indicated that conditions outside of the garden involve punishments that didn't exist previously. Woman would now have pain in childbirth (Ge 3:16) and man would have hardship tilling the ground and it would have thorns (Ge 3:17-18).

3. It's not the point that sin can bring about physical death in a day, it's that sin always brings about physical death eventually. And this really brings us back full circle because we got into this whole argument over this one thing. You said something to the effect that if God meant it literally (that death was a natural occurrence before the fall and was expected to happen to people anyway)* then the human race would be extinct. But no, God wanted them to have reasonable punishments because it is his order to fill the earth.

4. If God meant that we would be angels in heaven he would say we would be angels in heaven. But he says we will be like the angels in heaven.

*that death is unnatural and not expected to happen to people before the fall
 
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Paul didn't believe in a physical resurrection.
If you believe that, your faith is futile--you are still in your sins.

1 Corinthians 15:12-26 KJV — Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


Paul, as well as the other disciples, was confronted by the physically resurrected Jesus. The tomb was empty.

Who, in the passage above has "fallen asleep"? And what can that mean in your view?
 
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1. I would agree with that in general terms yes. It helped pave the way for Christ's first advent.

2. The garden didn't represent paradise, it was paradise! It is even indicated that conditions outside of the garden involve punishments that didn't exist previously. Woman would now have pain in childbirth (Ge 3:16) and man would have hardship tilling the ground and it would have thorns (Ge 3:17-18).

3. It's not the point that sin can bring about physical death in a day, it's that sin always brings about physical death eventually. And this really brings us back full circle because we got into this whole argument over this one thing. You said something to the effect that if God meant it literally (that death was a natural occurrence before the fall and was expected to happen to people anyway)* then the human race would be extinct. But no, God wanted them to have reasonable punishments because it is his order to fill the earth.

4. If God meant that we would be angels in heaven he would say we would be angels in heaven. But he says we will be like the angels in heaven.

*that death is unnatural and not expected to happen to people before the fall
3. Death definitely existed before the fall because our inheritance is in heaven (Hebrews 11:10,16, 12:28). Adam and Eve were always mortal therefore they were given the divine mandate to be fruitful and multiply. What is going to happen to the planet earth if everything is immortal and vegetarian and continues to be fruitful and multiply?

4. No he compared our Resurrection to angels and he also gave us the location of the Resurrection.
 
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If you believe that, your faith is futile--you are still in your sins.

1 Corinthians 15:12-26 KJV — Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


Paul, as well as the other disciples, was confronted by the physically resurrected Jesus. The tomb was empty.

Who, in the passage above has "fallen asleep"? And what can that mean in your view?
The physical resurrection of Jesus was a sign of his divine nature and does not apply to us. He is first fruit of the Resurrection, he is the first man to have ever ascend up and enter into heaven in the whole history of the world. Fallen asleep simply means the dead in Christ their souls were very much alive in Hadean Paradise. Matthew 22:31-32
 
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If you believe that, your faith is futile--you are still in your sins.

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Speak for yourself.

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26

Futurists need to pay attention to the time statements of Jesus and the Apostles and pay heed to the audience they are speaking with. They were writing letters to a particular audience living in the end of the age (Mosaic Law and physical Israel after the flesh) of the 1st Century not the 21st century church.

Who pierced Jesus? I didn't pierce him literally and I didn't witness his crucifixion. And who is going to mourn him (1st century Israel is going to witness his coming and mourn because Rome surrounds Jerusalem and shuts her in). But he died for all of our sins.

Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, EVEN THEY WHO PIERCED HIM. And all the tribes [ISRAEL] of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7

Pilate said to them, “What then shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ?”
They all said to him, “Let Him be crucified!” Then the governor said, “Why, what evil has He done?” But they cried out all the more, saying, “Let Him be crucified!” When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, “I am innocent of the blood of this just Person. You see to it.” And all the people answered and said, “His blood be on us and on our children.”
Matthew 27:22-25

Futurism is doing a grave injustice to the prophecies of Jesus and the Apostles because Jesus is not literally going to return as 5 foot something little man in the sky coming in the clouds no less. Who can see a man in the sky but also in the clouds above Jerusalem with their naked eyes anyways? Do not say television because 1st century knew nothing of the concept. How is someone say in England or California ever going see into the skies above Jerusalem a man sized object? We can't even see airplanes above Jerusalem? Futurists have taken the hyperbolic nature of the prophetic imagery to the absolute extreme and completely ignored all of Jesus and his time statements. Basically labeling him a false prophet. All Bible fulfillment needs to be reconciled to Christ's time statements.

and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. Daniel 12:7

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Matthew 5:17-18 [Hebrews 9:8,28; 8:13]

Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
Matthew 23:36

Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. Matthew 24:34
 
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Who pierced Jesus? I didn't pierce him literally
No, not literally, but it's interesting that you have to clarify by saying, literally. He comes to take vengeance on those who don't know God, as well as on those that don't obey the gospel of Christ. Yes, he came in 70 AD to judge the nation of Israel but he must also come to judge the whole world.
and I didn't witness his crucifixion.
And yet your still accountable for your sins.
And who is going to mourn him (1st century Israel is going to witness his coming and mourn because Rome surrounds Jerusalem and shuts her in).
And I'm sure many of the Jews did mourn him in that day when he came in judgment. But it doesn't discount a final judgment day.
But he died for all of our sins.
To those who have not repented that will mean little to them.
 
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No, not literally, but it's interesting that you have to clarify by saying, literally. He comes to take vengeance on those who don't know God, as well as on those that don't obey the gospel of Christ. Yes, he came in 70 AD to judge the nation of Israel but he must also come to judge the whole world.

And yet your still accountable for your sins.

And I'm sure many of the Jews did mourn him in that day when he came in judgment. But it doesn't discount a final judgment day.

To those who have not repented that will mean little to them.
I believe he judged the world then and continues judge the whole world today too. A third coming was never prophesied. Everything pertaining to Jerusalem and Israel is already fulfilled in Christ. Christ is the Israel of God. He fulfilled all the promises. There is no more physical Jerusalem, there is no more Israel after the flesh. Now, presently, there is only Christ and his kingdom which is not of this world and never physically comes by way of human observation. It is a city made by God Himself and not human hands. Remember, the earth is nothing but a footstool to God, it is lowly and below the Glory of Christ. Christ never physically comes to reign with us but he reigns inside of us and ultimately reigns over us in Heaven. Only heaven is worthy of his glory. Anything contrary to that is worse than a King renouncing his opulent castle for a home among the peasant class. Remember there is still sin after the New Heavens and New Earth. I repeat the earth is His footstool [derogatory by usage].

“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;
And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. But the sinner
being one hundred years old shall be accursed. Isaiah 65:17, 20

Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. Behold, I am coming quickly! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”
And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand [c.f. Daniel 12:4] “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life [Christ], and may enter through the gates into the city [Heaven]. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie [unrepentant sinners under the New Covenant, New Heaven and New Earth]. He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.” Revelation 21:1, 22:7,10,12,14-15,20
 
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“Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool.
Where is the house that you will build Me?
And where is the place of My rest?
For all those things My hand has made,
And all those things exist,”
Says the Lord.
“But on this one will I look:
On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit,
And who trembles at My word
And I will also take some of them for priests and Levites [Gentiles],” says the Lord. “For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,” says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh [Gentile and Jew] shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.
. Isaiah 66:1-2, 21-23

Physical Jerusalem doesn't exist anymore neither does Israel after the flesh in any of God's plans anymore.
 
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Only heaven is worthy of his glory.
The earth is not worthy of his glory? Why do we pray that his will be done on earth as it is in heaven (Mt 6:10)?
Anything contrary to that is worse than a King renouncing his opulent castle for a home among the peasant class.
We are peasants? I thought we were to take dominion (Ge 1:26).
Remember there is still sin after the New Heavens and New Earth.
I repeat the earth is His footstool [derogatory by usage].
Derogatory to who or what? My understanding is that all the kings of the earth are subject to him (see Psalm 2)
I believe he judged the world then and continues judge the whole world today too. A third coming was never prophesied.
Christ's bodily return is not a third coming.
 
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The earth is not worthy of his glory? Why do we pray that his will be done on earth as it is in heaven (Mt 6:10)?

We are peasants? I thought we were to take dominion (Ge 1:26).


Derogatory to who or what? My understanding is that all the kings of the earth are subject to him (see Psalm 2)

Christ's bodily return is not a third coming.
Do not put words in my mouth. Christ is not going to remove His throne (David's throne) from Heaven and place it upon the earth (his footstool). What a footstool represents in ancient times and its Biblical symbolic connotation:

A footstool is a humble piece of furniture. It is rarely expensive or flashy and is often overlooked. It exists only as a place to rest one’s feet, so a footstool is not considered as valuable as a couch, bureau, or an easy chair. In Matthew 5:35, Jesus referred to the earth as “God’s footstool.” Isaiah 66:1 records the Lord as saying, “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool.” God used this metaphor to help us comprehend how great He is and how insignificant we are by comparison. If our entire planet is nothing but a footstool to our Creator, how small are we in the grand scheme of things?

In Bible times, being near feet or having to touch feet was dishonorable. Feet were dirty, and cleaning them was the job of the lowest servant. To be at a place near someone’s feet—at a footstool, for example—was humbling. That’s why it was so startling when Jesus washed the disciples’ feet (John 13:4–5).

A footstool in the Bible is a symbol of lowliness, humility, and unimportance. It signifies that the one using the footstool is far superior to the footstool itself. It’s amazing that, while God calls the earth His footstool, He still humbled Himself and took on human flesh to become One who lived on that footstool. And He requires that kind of meekness and humility in each of His followers (Philippians 2:5–11).
 
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Do not put words in my mouth. Christ is not going to remove His throne (David's throne) from Heaven and place it upon the earth (his footstool). What a footstool represents in ancient times and its Biblical symbolic connotation:
Psalm 2 is relevant to this:
The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together, (v. 2)
and speaking of his Son:
You shall break them with a rod of iron;
You shall dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ (v. 9)

If you say that God continues to judge the world today, why would you not also conclude there must be a final judgement day?

Also, I'm not saying that God is going to remove his throne in heaven. The point of all this is to say there will be harmony between heaven and earth; there will be no more disunity.
 
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Thankyou.
If I understand you, you mean the importance of the earth's age is about how it effects the success of Gospel preaching.

Let me ask you this. Would there be other things in the Bible if not presented so literally (like the virgin birth of Jesus) which would make more success in spreading the Good News?
Whoa there kimosobi (did I spell that right, it was off the cuff)! You take the Virgin birth of Jesus away, you might as well take away Jesus' resurrection from the dead. There are beliefs that ALL Christians should hold as true (the Trinity, Virgin birth of Jesus, the Resurrection of Jesus, St. Paul's conversion and more) but some of the early Church (Catholic) Fathers even taught that 6-day creation story does not need to be taken literal.


 

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The physical resurrection of Jesus was a sign of his divine nature and does not apply to us. He is first fruit of the Resurrection, he is the first man to have ever ascend up and enter into heaven in the whole history of the world. Fallen asleep simply means the dead in Christ their souls were very much alive in Hadean Paradise. Matthew 22:31-32
This is the problem with spiritualizing death. The first man was clay until God breathed the breath of life into him. Then and only then did the clay and breath together become a living soul. God expressed what would happen to man...that he would go back to what He was before: dust (clay).
Genesis 3:19 KJV — In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Adam died physically because he ate of the wrong tree, and because he is intrinsically a physical being. And Christ rose physically from the dead to give us hope of something after death, by resurrection. So our resurrection is assured, because He overcame physical death. The bodies actually come out of the graves, not just spirits out of Hades.
John 5:28 KJV — Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

Your doctrine says those in the graves are nothing to God, that He only cares about their soul/spirit. But Jesus cared about their bodies, which He says will come forth from the graves (not from "Hades")

John 5:29 KJV — And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Your doctrine is one of hopelessness, because man is not msn man without a body. Jesus became man, with a body, that He took into heaven with Him because He is forever the God-man. Why would Jesus want to raise His human body to show His followers that their bodies will NOT be raised?
 
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