BREAKING NEWS Hamas fire rockets into Israel

[John Helpher]

They have deftly rejected all solutions proposed by the Israeli government and still do to this day.

I wonder if you're able to explain what their reasons were for rejecting all these various solutions.

 

[John Helpher]

Israel has much to answer for too

Like what?

 

[Landon Caeli]

How about the native North Americans living in their own Gaza strips?

You mean like Indian reservations?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I wonder if you're able to explain what their reasons were for rejecting all these various solutions.

This wasn't addressed to me, but I'd be happy to jump in

So when the two-state solutions were proposed (after all of the Arab nations ran all of the Jews out of their countries and forced the to consolidate in Israel)

Arafat said it was more important to cleanse the region of "Zionists" than it was to have a sovereign nation of their own. (much to the chagrin of Israel, the UN, and a half dozen other Arab nations)

Long story short, Jews are willing to live with Muslims (and even allow them to be judges and hold seats in their legislature), the feeling doesn't seem to be mutual.

Regardless of what the BDS types will say, the Islamists are the aggressors, plain and simple.

The fact that they knowingly set up launch sites (which launch rockets at Israel) next to schools (and when the Israelis rightfully bomb those sites, they get the scrutiny of "oh look, they did a strike next to a school!!"), and so many BDS types fall for that routine, is quite telling.

 

[Landon Caeli]

The Native Americans are hundreds of times more civilized than the savagery we see from the "Palestinians".

 

[timothyu]

The Native Americans are hundreds of times more civilized than the savagery we see from the "Palestinians".

Anybody can be pushed over the edge.. especially when others start encroaching on what territory they have left. Imagine the response of outsiders moved in with dozers and built condos for outsiders. As was reported, both sides all along created these hostilities.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The Native Americans are hundreds of times more civilized than the savagery we see from the "Palestinians".

If we look back to the "Indian Wars", the wiki page has 35 instances of the word massacre. Although the savagery falls on 'both' sides of the conflict.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Anybody can be pushed over the edge.. especially when others start encroaching on what territory they have left. Imagine the response of outsiders moved in with dozers and built condos for outsiders. As was reported, both sides all along created these hostilities.

There's no excuse for murder.

If someone buldozes your house, do you pull out a shotgun and blow their head off? Or do you handle things civilly?

The Palestinians by large, support murder as their way of handling problems. That's why they hired a terrorist organization to be their government... That's why nobody likes them.

 

[John Helpher]

Long story short, Jews are willing to live with Muslims (and even allow them to be judges and hold seats in their legislature), the feeling doesn't seem to be mutual.

That's not what the evidence shows. Israel kills Palestinians civilians regularly. Their land is regularly taken, their farms burned, their houses bulldozed, and their families displaced, so that Jewish settlers can move in.

 

[timothyu]

There's no excuse for murder.

True. Like I keep saying, both sides are at fault for not following the will of the God of Abraham.

 

[John Helpher]

There's no excuse for murder.

The question is, are you willing to say that to the Israelis?

 

[John Helpher]

The Palestinians by large, support murder as their way of handling problems.

If America were being occupied and oppressed, they would not hesitate to kill. Let's try to be consistent.

 

[John Helpher]

The Native Americans are hundreds of times more civilized than the savagery we see from the "Palestinians".

It's not clear why you put Palestinians in quotes like that, but anyway, it looks like you're saying an argument can be made that some people deserve to be killed if it can be shown that they don't measure up to the ideals of civility we expect of the oppressed?

 

[Landon Caeli]

True. Like I keep saying, both sides are at fault for not following the will of the God of Abraham.

But Justice is important too... A price needs to be paid for Saturday's atrocity.

 

[timothyu]

But Justice is important too... A price needs to be paid for Saturday's atrocity.

Yes we must follow the will of man. No sense in trying it God's way.

 

[Landon Caeli]

The question is, are you willing to say that to the Israelis?

No. Because justice needs to be served now. The Palestinians must pay heavily for the murders and kidnappings.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Yes we must follow the will of man

It's God's will that justice be served.

“The Lord is righteous, he loves justice” (Psalms 11:7).

 

[timothyu]

It's God's will that justice be served.

Have I missed one of his new prophets on the news? Otherwise where is the order? I checked my spam. Last I heard love all as self still held

 

[John Helpher]

No.

Right, that's what I thought. This inconsistency in your judgment shows that you're not really interested in justice. You're mama-bearing over Israel while ignoring the injustice they perpetrate against the Palestinians. No one is saying either side is entirely right; they're both wrong for using violence to solve their problems. The point is to recognize that rather than making excuses for one side to be the bad guys.

It's like Jesus said, "These people draw near to me with their lips, but their heart is far from me". You say with your lips that you want justice, while ignoring the bad in the group that you personally like. That is corruption.

 

[Landon Caeli]

It's not clear why you put Palestinians in quotes like that, but anyway, it looks like you're saying an argument can be made that some people deserve to be killed if it can be shown that they don't measure up to the ideals of civility we expect of the oppressed?

It doesn't look like I was saying that. One form of punishment could be to have more land taken away.

I think the amount of land to take should depend on the severity of each Terrorist attack.

In the case of Saturday's attack, justice would be served by taking a very large chunk of "Palestinian" land.