BREAKING NEWS Hamas fire rockets into Israel

[Handmaid for Jesus]

A journalist said they were wrong but I highly doubt the government or their supporting allies would take that stand. But we can hope they come around to the will of God instead of their own and quit being their own worst enemy. It could add a whole new chapter to their bible.

BTW all of Israel means all 12 tribes/families, not just these the Jewish people who rejected their old name of Judah and took the family name of Israel as their own. Talk about sibling rivalry.

Well it is already written that Israel will repent. How it be accomplished is the question.But our Father will bring them to repentance some sort of way. Maybe now, maybe later. but it will happen.

 

[Wings like Eagles]

Hezbollah Issues Threat to Israel, US as Hamas War Escalates​

Hezbollah issues threat to Israel, US as Hamas war escalates

"We are not neutral," a leader of the Iran-backed Lebanese militant group said Sunday after it fired artillery shells into Israel.

www.newsweek.com

 

[wing2000]

CNN is reporting up to 260 bodies were found at an Israeli musical festival that was attacked by Gaza militants.

The outdoor Nova Festival event in a rural farmland area near the Gaza-Israel border was supposed to be an all-night dance party, celebrating the Jewish holiday of Sukkot. But as dawn broke, Gibly said they began hearing sirens and rockets.

“We didn’t even have any place to hide because we were at [an] open space,” she told CNN. “Everyone got so panicked and started to take their stuff.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/07/middleeast/israel-gaza-fighting-hamas-attack-music-festival-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[crixus]

God is in control.

 

[Always in His Presence]

God is in control.

If He truly was, all of Israel and Hamas would United in Salvation.

 

[David Kent]

Individual families owned land and property there. Something like 750,000 Arab Palestinians were displaced from their land, and were never allowed by Israel to return.

Palestinian right of return​

Formulated for the first time on 27 June 1948 by United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, proponents of the right of return hold that it is a sacred right, as well as a human right, whose applicability both generally and specifically to the Palestinians is protected under international law.

Later that year it was formalized in a UN Resolution

Article 11 – Palestinian Refugees​

The main Article of Resolution 1948, for the purpose of this article, is Article 11 which deals with the return of refugees.

Article 11 of the resolution reads:



75 years later, Palestinian refugees (or rather their descendants at this point) are still being denied this right. There are now more than a million Palestinian refugees still literally living in UN refugee camps.


That isn't what happened; the UN planned for a two-state solution, which was never put into action. The British left and the area fell into chaotic war.

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Most of those that were dispossessed of their la d in 1948 left because the Arab High Command ordered them to leave so their armies could have free fire in the war. They were promised that they could return to their homes within 6 months.

Meanwhile over one million Jews were thrown out of Arab lands. Where are they? Are they wanting to go back? Israel and other countries accepted them and they have integrated.

On the other hand , the Arab states refused to take them and kept them close to Israel, to use them as a weapon against.

Why has Gaza been cut off by Israel? Many Palestinians used to travel, over the border to work in Israel, but terrorists also used that crossing to blow up Israeli buses. So Israel closed the border.

Ever since the Hitler war, many peoples were exiled. There were Poles who were pushed out of their land when the Soviet Union took it. There were Germans who were dispossessed of their land when to poles took it. Many others were dispossessed of their land such as those of a couple of Japanese islands taken by the Soviet Union.

Why do we not campaign for these people to return.

What about the people dispossessed of thei islands at the insistence of the Americans so the latter could build a military base?

“That’s When the Nightmare Started”

The 106-page report, “‘That’s When the Nightmare Started:’ UK and US Forced Displacement of the Chagossians and Ongoing Colonial Crimes,” documents the treatment of the Chagossians, an Indigenous people whom the UK and US forced from their homes in the 1960s and 1970s so that a US military base...

www.hrw.org

 

[Aaron112]

Why do we not campaign for these people to return.

It's not a Biblical principle (it seems); it is expensive; it takes time and is almost never effective or helpful to anyone except those <lawyers, politicians, charlatans? > making a pile of money ?

 

[Wings like Eagles]

Hamas Claims to Have 163 Hostages in Gaza​

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/hamas-hostages-ransom/2023/10/08/id/1137455/

 

[FireDragon76]

What choice do they have, if they don’t fight, nothing changes for them and the oppression continues.
Israeli settlers are invading their territory and they’re just supposed to take that provocation over and over agin with having no say in their own land!?

It seems that it is a hopeless situation for the Palestinian people, as they have been marginalized by most of their Arab neighbors, so frustration is understandable.

 

[FireDragon76]

Foreigners? Israel had that land long before it was taken from them. They are back because God willed it. You really want to say that we need to follow God and his plan and then turn around and dismiss his plan.

How is that any different from the ridiculous justifications that Putin gives for taking Ukraine? Both are ethnonationalist mythologies.

Claims like that simply have no purchase under international law.

Many Palestinian people are descended from the indigenous people of the region, going back for thousands of years. They are not merely Arabs. Language fluency is not the same as ethnicity.

 

[Wings like Eagles]

Israel should take back control of The Gaza Strip, they should never have given it up.

 

[Landon Caeli]

It seems that it is a hopeless situation for the Palestinian people, as they have been marginalized by most of their Arab neighbors, so frustration is understandable.

They're being marginalized because they elected HAMAS, a designated terrorist group, to be their government... Bad decisions create bad outcomes!

...But they don't complain about Hamas being their government either. So it should be clear that everyone would want to marginalize these people for good reason.

 

[Landon Caeli]

What choice do they have, if they don’t fight, nothing changes for them and the oppression continues.
Israeli settlers are invading their territory and they’re just supposed to take that provocation over and over agin with having no say in their own land!?

Jews began migrating there since the late 1800's. They began by purchasing land, and as more heard, more came. All by purchasing land... But once they declared "Independence" the Arabs became upset, and started attacking them. This is where all the problems began.

Once the attacks started, certain land areas were acquired to make Israel more safe... As the attacks continued throughout the years, we can see how it worked out.

...Bad decisions by the "Palestinian" people. On and on and on...

 

[Landon Caeli]

Just say no to terrorism. It's the moral of the story.

 

[FenderTL5]

Jews began migrating there since the late 1800's. They began by purchasing land, and as more heard, more came. All by purchasing land... But once they declared "Independence" the Arabs became upset, and started attacking them. This is where all the problems began.

Once the attacks started, certain land areas were acquired to make Israel more safe... As the attacks continued throughout the years, we can see how it worked out.

...Bad decisions by the "Palestinian" people. On and on and on...

Just curious - if the same scenario were to play out here, you'd support it?
Suppose immigrants coming over the southern border bought property.. word got out and more came and bought property, then they were to declare that portion of Texas as independent land for a new nation or the nation they came from... you're okay with that?
If the Texans got upset, that'd be a 'bad decision'?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

For some historical context...

Meanwhile, Israel offers Muslims a voice in the Knesset and allows them to hold judicial positions in Israel.

It's pretty clear which side wants to "get rid of" the other vs. which side is "trying to make the best of a tough situation"

When given the option, Muslim countries opt to run the Jews "out of town", Jews offer to give Muslims a voice in their government.


To quote Bill Maher, if the woke BDS types had to spend a week in the Palestinian region, they'd be running for Tel Aviv begging them to take them in.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

It seems that it is a hopeless situation for the Palestinian people, as they have been marginalized by most of their Arab neighbors, so frustration is understandable.

I'll reiterate what was mentioned in my previous post, a two-state solution was offered to them multiple times, the person they saw fit to be their de facto leader turned it down.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Just curious - if the same scenario were to play out here, you'd support it?
Suppose immigrants coming over the southern border bought property.. word got out and more came and bought property, then they were to declare that portion of Texas as independent land for a new nation or the nation they came from... you're okay with that?
If the Texans got upset, that'd be a 'bad decision'?

That would be illogical, and thus, unrealistic. Those people already have a country... But if the Gauls re-emerged as a distinguished ethnic group with no home country, and they were super-saavy people with interesting ideas, and a lot of energy, I would allow the Gauls a land area of their own, and I would be for helping them and not killing them.

 

[timothyu]

How about the native North Americans living in their own Gaza strips?

 

[John Helpher]

palestine has lost any claim to some kind of moral high ground.

The question is, do you make the same kind of righteous declaration when it comes to Israel killing civilians?