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After perennially and uncritically repeating President Biden’s false claims about cutting the federal budget deficit, The Washington Post admitted Sunday that Biden will double the deficit this year to $2 trillion.​
The paper’s elite editors and reporters are mystified that “U.S. deficit explodes even as economy grows.”​
But did the Beltway get suckered on a Biden boom that exists largely due to sham statistics?​
Cynics now claim that the Commerce Department no longer refers to its Bureau of Economic Analysis but instead to Biden’s Economic Alterations.​
Americans have seen years of bait-and-switch statistics — glorious job-growth numbers followed by downward revisions long after the victory lap.​
IMHO - this is the type of woke we need and have been waiting for.
 

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After perennially and uncritically repeating President Biden’s false claims about cutting the federal budget deficit, The Washington Post admitted Sunday that Biden will double the deficit this year to $2 trillion.​
The paper’s elite editors and reporters are mystified that “U.S. deficit explodes even as economy grows.”​
But did the Beltway get suckered on a Biden boom that exists largely due to sham statistics?​
Cynics now claim that the Commerce Department no longer refers to its Bureau of Economic Analysis but instead to Biden’s Economic Alterations.​
Americans have seen years of bait-and-switch statistics — glorious job-growth numbers followed by downward revisions long after the victory lap.​
IMHO - this is the type of woke we need and have been waiting for.
Did you ever watch WWE or anything like that?
 
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Also, you can't deride Wapo as biased, and then quote them as accurate a week later.
I think you can, as bias is not the same thing as reliability.

My problem with many favorite "conservative" sources isnt so much their bias, but their penchant to pass along flat out lies. Wapo does have an internal bias imo. But what it does choose to report on is generally reliable.
 
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If anybody is interested in reading the actual Wapo piece and not the smoothbrain hyperbole from the NY Post, it's here:

Unlike the NYP piece, the Wapo piece actually mentions the contributing factors:

The Treasury Department is also on track to take in substantially less in new revenue this year, in part because of the stock market’s slump last year. In 2021, amid a cryptocurrency bubble and an explosion in housing prices driven by rock-bottom interest rates, investors recorded huge gains that led them to pay capital gains taxes at record levels. But then the bubble burst, leading to a sharp drop in capital gains tax revenue. Automatic adjustments to the tax brackets to account for inflation also reduced tax obligations for many Americans, resulting in less incoming revenue relative to last year.

Then a number of other spending increases contributed to the rising deficit — Social Security payments increased because they are indexed to inflation; the government spent more on education, veterans benefits and health care; and the bipartisan infrastructure law, as well as the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act, started sending billions of dollars out from the government’s accounts.

It also points out that this is a pretty significant shift from last year:
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And, finally, it reminds us:
GOP leaders are pushing to extend roughly $3.3 trillion in tax cuts, including breaks for large businesses and a reduction in the estate tax paid only by a small minority of wealthy families.
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I think you can, as bias is not the same thing as reliability.

My problem with many favorite "conservative" sources isnt so much their bias, but their penchant to pass along flat out lies. Wapo does have an internal bias imo. But what it does choose to report on is generally reliable.
It's not only the lies; it's also the dumb editorializing and name calling that is often woven throughout. The OP's piece is rife with both.
 
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I think you can, as bias is not the same thing as reliability.

...Wapo does have an internal bias imo. But what it does choose to report on is generally reliable.

While what you say is true, the rightwing criticisms of WaPo and similar media often stray beyond merely noting bias, and touch on reliability. A recent example:

'Anything from other than WAPO - they are hardly unbiased and their credibility is marginal at best.'
 
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While what you say is true, the rightwing criticisms of WaPo and similar media often stray beyond merely noting bias, and touch on reliability. A recent example:

'Anything from other than WAPO - they are hardly unbiased and their credibility is marginal at best.'
Good point. I think the msm center left sources generally have good journalistic standards, tho they do fall down once in a while. Its what they choose not to highlight that give me the most concern.... (at least since NYT with Judith Miller bought access at the cost of passing along unvetted Bush admin nonsense.)
 
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I cannot wait until Biden is out of office- God bless him.
What would Trump have done differently that would've changed these numbers?
 
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I never supported Trump. I never voted for him.
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Ok, then, pick a different Republican. Any Republican. What would they have done differently and how would it have changed these results?
 
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What would Trump have done differently that would've changed these numbers?
Only 10 posts before someone trots out the Trump card when it comes to something negative about Biden. It seems to never fail.
 
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Only 10 posts before someone trots out the Trump card when it comes to something negative about Biden. It seems to never fail.
Well of course.

The overarching context for the moment is a presidential contest between the 2 men.
 
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Only 10 posts before someone trots out the Trump card when it comes to something negative about Biden. It seems to never fail.
Every time right on cue ........ almost like a mob attack to smear the facts and then Trump gets thrown in ^_^
 
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From the link:

Almost all the “errors” in federal economic reports have been biased in Biden’s favor.​
How much of recent economic growth has been a statistical mirage or a political fraud?​
Federal spending increased 16% in fiscal year 2023 — at the same time tax revenue plunged by 7%. Soaring budget deficits should be a surprise only to people who failed arithmetic in fifth grade.
 
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Well of course.

The overarching context for the moment is a presidential contest between the 2 men.
No - it is solely focused on the current administration
 
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From the link:

Almost all the “errors” in federal economic reports have been biased in Biden’s favor.​
This is why, like the other thread going on about "disinformation", the deceivers want to control what is and is not real factual information.
 
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After perennially and uncritically repeating President Biden’s false claims about cutting the federal budget deficit, The Washington Post admitted Sunday that Biden will double the deficit this year to $2 trillion.​
The paper’s elite editors and reporters are mystified that “U.S. deficit explodes even as economy grows.”​
But did the Beltway get suckered on a Biden boom that exists largely due to sham statistics?​
Cynics now claim that the Commerce Department no longer refers to its Bureau of Economic Analysis but instead to Biden’s Economic Alterations.​
Americans have seen years of bait-and-switch statistics — glorious job-growth numbers followed by downward revisions long after the victory lap.​
IMHO - this is the type of woke we need and have been waiting for.
wow! This travesty ranks right up there with the big 'Trickle-down" scam the republicans still try to use today!
 
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