Florida ‘effectively’ bans Advanced Placement Psychology course due to curriculum's discussion of gender and sexual orientation

[Truth7t7]

no - because 30 years ago trans and homosexual's were covered under deviant sexual psychology. I still have the books from my time in college in the 80's.

Remember Charles Silverstein?

I agree, the transgender let's push normalcy, and let the guy who claims he's a girl hang out with women in the target bathroom, with a wig, lip stick, hairy chest and beard are new kids on the block

This was rammed quick, and it was from all sides

It was a big smile to watch the Sturgis fair and the budweiser area with 300 seats and 6 pouring stations and about 12 employees "Empty" not one person, speaks loud and clear on the push transgender on America, budweiser has lost $Billions$ is stock and sales

 

[essentialsaltes]

no - because 30 years ago trans and homosexual's were covered under deviant sexual psychology.

Yes, because the AP Psych curriculum element that “describe{s} how sex and gender influence socialization and other aspects of development” remains unchanged since it was first introduced 30 years ago.

 

[Wings like Eagles]

It was a big smile to watch the Sturgis fair and the budweiser area with 300 seats and 6 pouring stations and about 12 employees "Empty" not one person, speaks loud and clear on the push transgender on America, budweiser has lost $Billions$ is stock and sales

I saw that as well:

Budweiser Gets Humiliated at Sturgis Motorcycle Rally

The boycott against Bud Light over its partnership with transgender activist Dylan Mulvaney this spr

townhall.com

 

[essentialsaltes]

Gentle reminder to everyone, the topic of this thread is the AP Psychology course being effectively banned by Florida’s Parental Rights in Education Act. It is not about Budweiser or bathrooms.

 

[DaisyDay]

It was a big smile to watch the Sturgis fair and the budweiser area with 300 seats and 6 pouring stations and about 12 employees "Empty" not one person, speaks loud and clear on the push transgender on America, budweiser has lost $Billions$ is stock and sales

Hurrah for Cancel Culture!

 

[atpollard]

Gentle reminder to everyone, the topic of this thread is the AP Psychology course being effectively banned by Florida’s Parental Rights in Education Act. It is not about Budweiser or bathrooms.

When one starts down the path of AP Psychology, one will eventually end up drunk with your head in the bathroom.
It goes with the "political football" of liberal arts education and the intolerance of thoughts contrary to the "party line" [whichever "group" one affiliates with]. Tolerance (the actual thing of allowing dissenting opinions to exist) has become the rarity on the verge of extinction.

To your point and the subject of AP Psychology:​

The wound is "self-inflicted" by the "power players". Cambridge is a respected international body that manages to teach AP Psychology with no changes needed to the curriculum to meet the State Law because it NEVER taught gender transition as part of an introduction to the basics of Psychology. Therefore it CAN be done. Thus the "ban" is the POLITICAL Powers that Be flexing their muscles and passing laws that prohibit the topic in Public Schools (K-12) and the COLLEGIATE BOARD Powers that Be flexing their muscles by refusing to accept any course that does not teach what is "illegal" in a K-12 school as AP Psychology.

Ultimately, it is the SCHOOLS that suffer and the CHILDREN that win. If you take AP Psychology in the HS (or any AP class), then you must take a HARD EXAM at the end to get College Credit for the course. Those same HS Students have the option to take Intro to Psychology at the local Community College as an ONLINE Course and they have no AP EXAM to pass and only need a "C" to get College credit for the course. My daughter compared the AP classes to the "Dual Enrollment" options and discovered that "post-Covid", it is far better to take actual College Classes than AP classes.

So the "ban" is ultimately a NOTHING-BURGER unless you are a NTA union member that would have taught AP Psychology at your HS ... then the College Board screwed you to the benefit of the Community College Professors.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Yes, because the AP Psych curriculum element that “describe{s} how sex and gender influence socialization and other aspects of development” remains unchanged since it was first introduced 30 years ago.

If that was accurate, it would still be covered under deviant sex and considered a mental disorder.

 

[essentialsaltes]

If that was accurate

It is accurate.

The problem is not whether any particular sexual expression is or isn't classified as deviant. The problem is that Florida's law forbids any discussion of it at all. Including whatever discussion you had 30 years ago.

 

[atpollard]

The problem is that Florida's law forbids any discussion of it at all.

Except it is not a real problem ... it is only a "problem" because the "College Board" manufactured the problem. Teach the Cambridge Program version (which is good enough for Oxford) and never violated the Florida State Laws.

 

[NxNW]

no - because 30 years ago trans and homosexual's were covered under deviant sexual psychology. I still have the books from my time in college in the 80's.

That's a bug, not a feature.

 

[Always in His Presence]

That's a bug, not a feature.

and bananas turn black in the heat - now both of us made nonsensical posts

 

[Always in His Presence]

From the link in the OP:

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In practice, the only real requirement is for teaching the definitions of sexual orientation and gender identity and the difference between them, said Elliott Hammer, professor of psychology at Xavier University of Louisiana and chief reader for AP psychology exams.​

“It’s a pretty small topic,” he said.​

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Teachings about gender identity and sexual orientation, he said, were “always optional.”​

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Seems like another manufactured issue.​

 

[Truth7t7]

Hurrah for Cancel Culture!

It's called a Boycott

Merriam-Webster: Boycott

to engage in a concerted refusal to have dealings with (a person, a store, an organization, etc.) usually to express disapproval or to force acceptance of certain conditions

In the 1870s, Irish farmers faced an agricultural crisis that threatened to result in a repeat of the terrible famine and mass evictions of the 1840s. Anticipating financial ruin, they formed a Land League to campaign against the rent increases and evictions landlords were imposing as a result of the crisis. When retired British army captain Charles Boycott, acting as an agent for an absentee landlord, tried to evict tenant farmers for refusing to pay their rent, he was ostracized by the League and community. His laborers and servants quit, and the crops in his care began to rot. Boycott’s fate was soon well known, and his name became a byword for that particular protest strategy, both as a verb and as a noun. Across the Atlantic three-quarters of a century later, boycotts such as the Montgomery bus boycott were pivotal components of the Civil Rights Movement in the United States.

 

[Truth7t7]

I saw that as well:

Budweiser Gets Humiliated at Sturgis Motorcycle Rally

The boycott against Bud Light over its partnership with transgender activist Dylan Mulvaney this spr

townhall.com

GO WOKE GO BROKE

NewYorkPost​

Bud Light parent Anheuser-Busch’s stock has lost $27B over Dylan Mulvaney​

By
Shannon Thaler
June 2, 2023

 

[DaisyDay]

It's called a Boycott

Merriam-Webster: Boycott

to engage in a concerted refusal to have dealings with (a person, a store, an organization, etc.) usually to express disapproval or to force acceptance of certain conditions

In the 1870s, Irish farmers faced an agricultural crisis that threatened to result in a repeat of the terrible famine and mass evictions of the 1840s. Anticipating financial ruin, they formed a Land League to campaign against the rent increases and evictions landlords were imposing as a result of the crisis. When retired British army captain Charles Boycott, acting as an agent for an absentee landlord, tried to evict tenant farmers for refusing to pay their rent, he was ostracized by the League and community. His laborers and servants quit, and the crops in his care began to rot. Boycott’s fate was soon well known, and his name became a byword for that particular protest strategy, both as a verb and as a noun. Across the Atlantic three-quarters of a century later, boycotts such as the Montgomery bus boycott were pivotal components of the Civil Rights Movement in the United States.

Hurrah for Cancel Culture!

 

[NxNW]

no - because 30 years ago trans and homosexual's were covered under deviant sexual psychology. I still have the books from my time in college in the 80's.

And 60 years ago they used to lynch black citizens. Society has progressed since then. Does that clarify my position, or do I need to explain it further?

 

[Pommer]

Except it is not a real problem ... it is only a "problem" because the "College Board" manufactured the problem. Teach the Cambridge Program version (which is good enough for Oxford) and never violated the Florida State Laws.

But then the question arises, “why pass a law that doesn’t effectively do anything!?”

 

[Pommer]

It's called a Boycott

Merriam-Webster: Boycott

to engage in a concerted refusal to have dealings with (a person, a store, an organization, etc.) usually to express disapproval or to force acceptance of certain conditions

In the 1870s, Irish farmers faced an agricultural crisis that threatened to result in a repeat of the terrible famine and mass evictions of the 1840s. Anticipating financial ruin, they formed a Land League to campaign against the rent increases and evictions landlords were imposing as a result of the crisis. When retired British army captain Charles Boycott, acting as an agent for an absentee landlord, tried to evict tenant farmers for refusing to pay their rent, he was ostracized by the League and community. His laborers and servants quit, and the crops in his care began to rot. Boycott’s fate was soon well known, and his name became a byword for that particular protest strategy, both as a verb and as a noun. Across the Atlantic three-quarters of a century later, boycotts such as the Montgomery bus boycott were pivotal components of the Civil Rights Movement in the United States.

Wow, this is a pretty good and cogent post, I’da give it a winner reaction had it been anywhere near the topic of the thread.

 

[Truth7t7]

And 60 years ago they used to lynch black citizens. Society has progressed since then. Does that clarify my position, or do I need to explain it further?

Explain it further, waiting?

 

[Always in His Presence]

And 60 years ago they used to lynch black citizens. Society has progressed since then. Does that clarify my position, or do I need to explain it further?

No, I fully know and recognize a manufactured issue when I see one. You often can tell because the debater running out of facts typically brings up either slavery, the nazi’s or Stalin.