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Georgia has opened (ETA: criminal) investigation into Trump's election meddling and 'find me votes'

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No need for a report, it was all recorded on CCTV for the world to watch

Fact: Republican Poll Watchers were sent home

Fact: Ruby Freeman and her gang continued to count ballots after watchers were sent home

You haven't watched the full CCTV video, have you -- just the edited portion that Giuliani showed? This is why Giuliani is in trouble legally and why others have settled their defamation suit that Ruby Freeman brought.

The true story is that those poll workers thought they were going home and started packing up for the night. You can see them packing up the ballots into the boxes and putting the boxes under the tables. It is also, for this reason, that many poll watchers went home. However, when the state election officials learned that Fulton county election workers were planning to go home for the night, they called and told them they had to stay and continue counting votes.

At that point, you see the portion of the video that Giuliani showed -- the poll workers taking out the cartons they'd just stuck under the tables a couple of minutes before. This is exactly why Giuliani is being sued, because the full video clearly shows them packing up ballots and putting them under the tables but Giuliani claimed, and edited the video, to make it look like those were "extra" ballots.
 
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No need for a report, it was all recorded on CCTV for the world to watch

Fact: Republican Poll Watchers were sent home
  1. INVESTIGATIVE FINDINGS:
    Teams of investigators from the FBI, GBI, and Georgia SOS conducted independent and simultaneous interviews of Fulton County employees who were involved in the processing and scanning of absentee ballots at State Farm Arena on election night in November 2020. All employees interviewed provided a consistent account regarding how absentee ballots were processed and scanned that evening. Additionally, no one had any knowledge of observers, poll watchers, or the media being told they had to leave.
 
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Then why did Trump ask the GA Sec of State to “find” only 11,000+ votes?

And anyway, even if he legitimately won GA’s 16 EVs, he’d still lose the election.
Because votes that were cast are often misplaced and found at a later time. It usually ends up in favor of the democrat in the race. Car trunk found full of ballots just as they were needed at the last second.
 
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Hard to know to how seriously to take it since they don't say if it'll be held at a landscaping company or not.
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Because votes that were cast are often misplaced and found at a later time. It usually ends up in favor of the democrat in the race. Car trunk found full of ballots just as they were needed at the last second.
Do you have credible evidence of this?
The last second for what?
 
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Hard to know to how seriously to take it since they don't say if it'll be held at a landscaping company or not.
Let's hope he doesn't have a literal meltdown like his spokesperson did.
 
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Because votes that were cast are often misplaced and found at a later time. It usually ends up in favor of the democrat in the race. Car trunk found full of ballots just as they were needed at the last second.
Huh? No lo comprendo, amigo.

The vote totals in GA were close. But as I said, even if Trump had won GA honestly and fairly, Joe Biden still has 290 EVs. He wins.

Not to get off-topic, but the real reason Biden won was women voters. Especially women of color, and college educated women. According to exit polls compiled by Statista, Trump won narrowly among men, 49% to Biden's 48%. But among women, Biden won 56%, to Trump's 43%. That's a big margin. And it's how he raked in over 81 million popular votes--the largest vote total of any presidential candidate in history.

2020 Presidential Election exit polls: share of votes by gender U.S. 2020 | Statista
 
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Huh? No lo comprendo, amigo.

The vote totals in GA were close. But as I said, even if Trump had won GA honestly and fairly, Joe Biden still has 290 EVs. He wins.

Not to get off-topic, but the real reason Biden won was women voters. Especially women of color, and college educated women. According to exit polls compiled by Statista, Trump won narrowly among men, 49% to Biden's 48%. But among women, Biden won 56%, to Trump's 43%. That's a big margin. And it's how he raked in over 81 million popular votes--the largest vote total of any presidential candidate in history.

2020 Presidential Election exit polls: share of votes by gender U.S. 2020 | Statista

From what I saw, to get even more detailed, it was suburban women -- women where the majority voted for Trump in 2016 but switched to Biden in 2020.
 
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We did value the government when trump was in. He got things done and in control. The country is a terrible mess spiralling into an abyss of socialism, aliens running a muck, inflation, and a country teetering on bankruptcy,. Yeah, he's a mess but our country was in good shape
 
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We did value the government when trump was in. He got things done and in control. The country is a terrible mess spiralling into an abyss of socialism, aliens running a muck, inflation, and a country teetering on bankruptcy,. Yeah, he's a mess but our country was in good shape
um… No.

He didn’t “get things done and in control.” Aside from a couple issues, he was pretty ineffective as a president, with few policy wins, a cabinet in disarray and many of his EA’s overturned.

Inflation is back down to 3%.

Our country was not “in good shape” when he left. He’d started blowing up the deficit before covid; then his response to covid was mostly terrible and his one success (the vaccine) he failed to sell to his fanbase, so they rejected it.

Your description matches how I expected his presidency to go, not how it went.
 
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We did value the government when trump was in. He got things done and in control.
Yeah, that wall that Mexico paid for is working well. As is his replacement for Obamacare. And who could forget infrastructure week?

Come on, it isn't long enough ago that people have forgotten that the guy was just plain bad at his job.
 
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um… No.

He didn’t “get things done and in control.” Aside from a couple issues, he was pretty ineffective as a president, with few policy wins, a cabinet in disarray and many of his EA’s overturned.

Inflation is back down to 3%.

Our country was not “in good shape” when he left. He’d started blowing up the deficit before covid; then his response to covid was mostly terrible and his one success (the vaccine) he failed to sell to his fanbase, so they rejected it.

Your description matches how I expected his presidency to go, not how it went.
President Donald J. Trump is the greatest thing since sliced bread, he accomplished more in 4 years than most presidents have done in 8 years, all while under constant attack from the liberal democratic left, Russia Hoax being one dishonorable mention, 3 years and $millions spent, all for a big outcome of the DNC and Hillary Clinton planned the entire obstruction of a duly elected president in Donald J. Trump, as America was held hostage based upon deceit and lies!
 
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Yeah, that wall that Mexico paid for is working well. As is his replacement for Obamacare. And who could forget infrastructure week?

Come on, it isn't long enough ago that people have forgotten that the guy was just plain bad at his job.
Donald Trump, one of the greatest presidents that has ever lived, and 2024 will see 4 more years, can't wait!

Trump 2024, Make America Great Again!
 
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Donald Trump, one of the greatest presidents that has ever lived, and 2024 will see 4 more years, can't wait!

I thought the mandatory minimum sentence for the crimes outlined in the OP is more than 4 years.

Anyway, I'm amused how my mention of the lack of actual accomplishments of Mr. Trump during his one term in office triggered such a fact-free expression of faith in the guy.
 
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President Donald J. Trump is the greatest thing since sliced bread, he accomplished more in 4 years than most presidents have done in 8 years, all while under constant attack from the liberal democratic left, Russia Hoax being one dishonorable mention, 3 years and $millions spent, all for a big outcome of the DNC and Hillary Clinton planned the entire obstruction of a duly elected president in Donald J. Trump, as America was held hostage based upon deceit and lies!

Donald Trump, one of the greatest presidents that has ever lived, and 2024 will see 4 more years, can't wait!

Trump 2024, Make America Great Again!
@Aryeh Jay, is that you?
 
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Yeah, that wall that Mexico paid for is working well. As is his replacement for Obamacare. And who could forget infrastructure week?

Come on, it isn't long enough ago that people have forgotten that the guy was just plain bad at his job.
I love how his biggest accomplishments are signing things people handed him to sign. (e.g. judicial appointments, tax cut bill, operation warp speed)
 
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