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Texas judge still fighting to deny wedding ceremonies to gay couples

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Like I said, consequences equal to all who don’t follow the law for any reason, not persecution.
So, because Roman Law required every person to offer their worship of a pinch of incense to the Emperor, Christians who refused were subject to the legal consequences? And that Christianity was illegal and a capital offence, then in order to follow the law, Christians should give up their Christian faith and compromise with the state?

What if accepting homosexuality is lawful is anti-Christian and Christians refused to follow it and are made to suffer for it, is that not persecution?

I guess, that in the light of 60% of Evangelical churches don't preach or abide by the Gospel of Christ, they won't have any trouble about compromising with the law concerning homosexuality and same sex marriage.
 
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How are they persecutors? By not sanctioning an abomination that God hates?
If god exists and if god is all powerfull, then god doesn't need this judge to do things on its behalf. Just leave it to god to deal with, LOL
 
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What if accepting homosexuality is lawful is anti-Christian and Christians refused to follow it and are made to suffer for it, is that not persecution?
Back to the whole "Don't persecute me by stopping me from hating and discriminating"
 
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So, because Roman Law required every person to offer their worship of a pinch of incense to the Emperor, Christians who refused were subject to the legal consequences? And that Christianity was illegal and a capital offence, then in order to follow the law, Christians should give up their Christian faith and compromise with the state?

What if accepting homosexuality is lawful is anti-Christian and Christians refused to follow it and are made to suffer for it, is that not persecution?

I guess, that in the light of 60% of Evangelical churches don't preach or abide by the Gospel of Christ, they won't have any trouble about compromising with the law concerning homosexuality and same sex marriage.
No it’s not persecution. You want special treatment for your beliefs.
 
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The reason why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah was not because of homosexuality, but that it was condoned by the state. The United States is doing the same. It is condoning homosexuality and protecting it by law. Therefore, it is in real danger of God stepping in and destroying the nation.
Same sex marriage is legal in 34 countries.

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Where will god start to unleash his wrath? The bets are open.
 
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Sometimes it makes me sad that Christians in the United States really don't care very much to uphold equal treatment under the law. It makes me think that maybe some of these people are not really interested in showing love to everyone.

I also think it's too bad because Christian Nationalism will NOT maintain any kind of grip over the US for a long period of time. And when that grip is lost, I expect that then you will see American Christians ACTUALLY being persecuted instead of persecuting other people and then claiming THEY are being persecuted for having to put up with them.
 
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No it’s not persecution. You want special treatment for your beliefs.
How about seeking that treatment in a Muslim country?
 
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How about seeking that treatment in a Muslim country?
I don’t think you would need to, my understanding is that their beliefs about homosexuality would pretty much align with yours.
 
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What responsibility do local authorities have to enforce Federal law?
No kidding. Why should we expect judges to follow the US Constitution, especially when it is so inconvenient to what they feel like doing ?
 
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Ah yes. The party of "Law and order" once again showing how much they believe in following the law if they disagree with it.
One of the tenets of fascism is that the law, instead of being something applied equally, is just a rationalization to bludgeon the "other" with.
 
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How about seeking that treatment in a Muslim country?
Seems like the judge in this case is the one wanting a non-secular legal system based in religious tradition. Perhaps they should be the one more comfortable in a Muslim country?

Oh wait, no, wrong religious group imposing their will on the majority.
 
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Can you show me where the Texas definintion of marriage appears on that page; or are you just making it up as you go along.
Well, this is McLennan County, where the judge in the OP is located.

If you are applying for a marriage license, please note the following requirements:
  • Both applicants must be at least 18 years of age.
I mean, there are a few more, but none of them relate to the sexes of the applicants.

It's maybe easier to see in, say, Travis County. Where the parties are Applicant 1 and Applicant 2, and there is no space to even note their sexes.
 
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