‘Our children, our rights’: Scores of parents hit rally opposing MoCo schools’ LGBTQ policies

[HARK!]

I would agree it is inappropriate. Which I in fact do. But then again, this is why I mentioned in an earlier post I think that public schools can teach something about the fact that the LGBTQ+ community exists and have lives like others do, and they can present their curricular readings to children AS LONG AS the lessons are publicaly open for the parents/guardians to ALSO attend and hear at the very same time.

That way, any and all of the specific details "taught" in those lessons can be later reviewed/discussed/critiqued by parents (even Christian parents) when the children are at home.

I don't want to listen to that, nor would I want my child to hear about it, any more than bestiality. Inviting parents to hear about it doesn't make it any better. This is not material that is going to help my child in the workplace, at least not the kind of work that I would hope for my child.

 

[HARK!]

Do they get pregnant without having sex?

Son of a gun! Yes, it can happen.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Son of a gun! Yes, it can happen.

Without human male sperm entering the body?

You get the point I'm making...if you're a devout Christian literalist, you believe in something that can't be explained by provable biology.
(talking snakes, turning seas to blood, a 500 year old man putting 2.1 million animals on a 450ft boat, etc)

Yet, they take great umbrage at the fact that another (competing) belief system wants their views to be given equal credence.


I'm saying, let us more secular folks with some conservative values handle it, we'll get a better end result.

The reason why guys like Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin can make such strong arguments against this stuff is because they approach it from a secular/scientific angle.

 

[HARK!]

Without human male sperm entering the body?

I can't explain the process of how each one happens; but it has been documented that they happen.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I can't explain the process of how each one happens; but it has been documented that they happen.

So your position is that immaculate conception can happen? That a human woman an be impregnated by a deity?

What are your thoughts on Noah's Ark?

Again, I'm trying not to be too harsh here, but if one believes in some nonsense themselves, they're not the best person to be calling other people out on their nonsense.

 

[Sabri]

So your position is that immaculate conception can happen? That a human woman an be impregnated by a deity?

What are your thoughts on Noah's Ark?

Again, I'm trying not to be too harsh here, but if one believes in some nonsense themselves, they're not the best person to be calling other people out on their nonsense.

The Virgin Mary

 

[Sabri]

So your position is that immaculate conception can happen? That a human woman an be impregnated by a deity?

What are your thoughts on Noah's Ark?

Again, I'm trying not to be too harsh here, but if one believes in some nonsense themselves, they're not the best person to be calling other people out on their nonsense.

Noah’ ark happened. There’s data that proves most of the Bible. Historical fossils all of it.
And we understand that unbelievers are skeptical about everything related to faith, but they chew up everything the government tells them is right. Go feed your kids a doctrine about falsehoods men turning into women over night- magic - here a man tomorrow a woman that’s not nonsense. It’s so funny. You want to scream wake up - to the people who goes along with this stuff.

 

[HARK!]

So your position is that immaculate conception can happen?

My position is that anything is possible, YHWH willing; but we're beginning to drift off topic here.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I don't want to listen to that, nor would I want my child to hear about it, any more than inappropriate behavior with animals. Inviting parents to hear about it doesn't make it any better. This is not material that is going to help my child in the workplace, at least not the kind of work that I would hope for my child.

So, at what age do you think it is "appropriate" to read Romans chapter 1 to your child? I presented it to my child when he was 6 or 7 ... and yes, he was going to hear about it where other people liked it or not.

Moreover, my implementation of "exposing darkness" as a Christian (as Paul admonished the Ephesian Christians to do) doesn't include sticking my head and ears into the sand when some worldly ideas and/or practices come along ...

... moreover, it's hardly the case that to sit in on a reading of LGBTQ+ curricular materials is equivolent to an act of "support" or "fellowship" with it, especially if---philosopher that I am---- my aim in doing so is to subvert the intended lesson. (And I'm totally open and honest up front about this being my intention, unlike some others on both sides of the travesty of American politics).

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Noah’ ark happened. There’s data that proves most of the Bible. Historical fossils all of it.
And we understand that unbelievers are skeptical about everything related to faith, but they chew up everything the government tells them is right. Go feed your kids a doctrine about falsehoods men turning into women over night- magic - here a man tomorrow a woman that’s not nonsense. It’s so funny. You want to scream wake up - to the people who goes along with this stuff.

Again, I'm not buying into everything the left is proposing either...

I'm very critical about a lot of aspects of modern gender theory. If you talk to most left-leaning people on there, they'd probably accuse me of being "right-wing" based on my stances. If you're familiar with my posts on here, you'll see that I'm at odds with the left more than the right on these issues.


For the record, there are no historical fossil records that "prove Noah's Ark" that don't rely on evolution as an explanation for why is was possible...are you willing to concede that ground?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

My position is that anything is possible

Anything? Like a person honestly feeling like they're a woman when they were actually born a male?


If anything is possible, that opens up a lot of possibilities.


I take a more pragmatic approach, which is that people can be very confused about what they are, and that society propping up certain people as heroes can encourage people to jump on board a train they would otherwise have not gotten on. While still acknowledging that that other people who may be confused about certain details probably aren't the best people to be lecturing them about reality.

 

[HARK!]

So, at what age do you think it is "appropriate" to read Romans chapter 1 to your child?

What do you think is the appropriate age to introduce Paul's writings into public school lessons?

 

[HARK!]

Anything? Like a person honestly feeling like they're a woman when they were actually born a male?

I don't believe that is YHWH's will for that man; but I do belive that he can be deluded into having those feelings. It could be caused by demon possession. I wonder if MoCo will work that aspect into their course studies.

 

[Sabri]

Again, I'm not buying into everything the left is proposing either...

I'm very critical about a lot of aspects of modern gender theory. If you talk to most left-leaning people on there, they'd probably accuse me of being "right-wing" based on my stances. If you're familiar with my posts on here, you'll see that I'm at odds with the left more than the right on these issues.


For the record, there are no historical fossil records that "prove Noah's Ark" that don't rely on evolution as an explanation for why is was possible...are you willing to concede that ground?

No, i haven’t read your post. I don’t label myself as right or left. I say i stand for good what’s right righteousness. The word of God. If it’s left is right then in a particular subject ok. However, these curriculums are an example of the mess that’s going on now under the leadership of those in office. Answer the questions i posed?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

What do you think is the appropriate age to introduce Paul's writings into public school lessons?

Age 6 seems good.

Why would I be inconsistent with all that I've ever said on CF for the last 15 years I've been here .... ???

 

[HARK!]

Why would I be inconsistent with all that I've ever said on CF for the last 15 years I've been here .... ???

I hadn't implied that you would be; and I haven't read your posts for the last 15 years. Why ask why?

 

[HARK!]

Age 6 seems good.

Paul can be difficult to understand. I would wait until they had a strong foundation in the TaNaK, and the words of Yahshua, before I introduced Paul's writings. The 1st grade seems a bit early to me; but I don't want to stray off topic.

 

[Hans Blaster]

So, at what age do you think it is "appropriate" to read Romans chapter 1 to your child? I presented it to my child when he was 6 or 7 ... and yes, he was going to hear about it where other people liked it or not.

40. At least that's how old I was when I read it the first time.

Moreover, my implementation of "exposing darkness" as a Christian (as Paul admonished the Ephesian Christians to do) doesn't include sticking my head and hears into the sand when some worldly ideas and/or practices come along ...

... moreover, it's hardly the case that to sit in on a reading of LGBTQ+ curricular materials is equivolent to an act of "support" or "fellowship" with it, especially if---philosopher that I am---- my aim in doing so is to subvert the intended lesson. (And I'm totally open and honest up front about this being my intention, unlike some others on both sides of the travesty of American politics).

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I hadn't implied that you would be; and I haven't read your posts for the last 15 years. Why ask why?

Why respond to a question posed to you with a question? Do you think you're Jesus?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

40. At least that's how old I was when I read it the first time.

Better late than never ...