Jesus ate the Paschal lamb before he was crucified

[tonychanyt]

The Roman calendar day went from midnight to midnight, while the Jewish calendar day went from sunset to sunset. Here, I will stick to the Jewish tradition.

Josephus:

So these high priests, upon the coming of that feast which is called the Passover, when they slay their sacrifices, from the ninth hour till the eleventh

in the afternoon.

The terms Feast of Unleavened Bread and Passover were sometimes used interchangeably. Luke 22:

1 Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread drew near, which is called the Passover.

Technically, the Passover day came first, followed immediately by the Feast of Unleavned Bread.

On Thursday, Nisan 14, there were Passover preparations (or setup). Good News Translation, Matt 26:

17 On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and asked him, "Where do you want us to get the Passover meal ready for you?"

The term Festival of the Unleavened Bread is a bit confusing. A parallel account in Mark 14:

12 On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was to be sacrificed, Jesus' disciples asked Him, "Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?"

It was Nisan 14, the beginning of an 8-day Feast/Festival.

Matt 26:

18 He said, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says, “My time is near. I will observe the Passover with my disciples at your house.”’” 19 So the disciples did as Jesus had instructed them, and they prepared the Passover.

Technically speaking, the preparation (the lamb's sacrifice) was done before the sun had completely set, and eating the lamb and unleavened bread happened after the sunset (on Nisan 15).

Parallel account, Luke 22:

7 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread, on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. 8 So Jesusa sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it.”

John 13:

1 Just before the Passover Feast, Jesus knew that his time had come to depart from this world to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he now loved them to the very end.

They sacrificed the Passover lamb before sunset and ate the Passover meal after sunset.

Matt 26:

20 When it was evening, he took his place at the table with the 12.

At this point, they ate the Passover lamb.

John 13:

2 The evening meal was in progress, and the devil had already put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, that he should betray Jesus.

They arrested Jesus. The Sanhedrin tried Jesus. Peter denied him. The rooster crowed.

Early on Friday morning, they took Jesus to Pilate. John 18:

28 Then they led Jesus from the house of Caiaphas to the governor’s headquarters. It was early morning. They did not enter the governor’s headquarters so that they would not be defiled but could eat the Passover

i.e., the general 8-day feast, not specifically the Passover lamb which they ate already.

Pilate sent Jesus to Herod. Herod sent him back to Pilate. Pilate delivered Jesus to be crucified.

They crucified Jesus at Golgotha. Luke 23:

44 It was now about noon, and darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon, 45for the sun stopped shining. And the curtain of the temple was torn in two. 46 Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” When he had said this, he breathed his last.

English Standard Version John 19:

31 Since it was the day of Preparation,

i.e., the Friday before the Sabbath, not the preparation of the paschal lamb, which occurred on Thursday

and so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away.

They buried Jesus before sunset (before Sabbath, Saturday).

After Jesus was buried, Matthew 27:

62 The next day [Saturday], the one after Preparation Day [Friday], the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate.

Again, "Preparation Day" was a technical term meaning the day before the Sabbath Saturday.

65“Take a guard,” Pilate answered. “Go, make the tomb as secure as you know how.” 66 So they went and made the tomb secure by putting a seal on the stone and posting the guard.

The chronological sequence of events:

1. Nisan 14, Thursday afternoon: Prepare or set up the meal for the paschal lamb.
2. The sun set.
3. Nisan 15: Jesus ate Paschal lamb in the evening. Confusingly, this was sometimes referred to as Nisan 14 evening.
4. Friday/Preparation Day/the day before a weekly Sabbath
5. They crucified Jesus in the afternoon and buried him before sunset.
6. Full moon
7. Nisan 16: Saturday/Sabbath
8. The chief priests put a seal and posted a guard at the tomb.

See also

• According to John 13:1, the Last Supper took place before the Passover Feast
• Had the Jewish leaders eaten the Paschal lamb when they took Jesus to Pilate?
• What was the high Sabbath?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

On Thursday Nisan 14 (Nisan 15 if one started the day at midnight instead of sunset), there were Passover preparations, Matt 26:

17 Now on the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and said, “Where do you want us to prepare for you to eat the Passover?”​

It was the beginning of an 8-day Feast/festival.

Matt 26:

18 He said, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says, “My time is near. I will observe the Passover with my disciples at your house.”’” 19 So the disciples did as Jesus had instructed them, and they prepared the Passover.​

Technically speaking, the preparation (the sacrifice of the lamb) was done before the sun had completely set and the eating of the lamb and unleavened bread happened after the sunset.

Luke 22:

7 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread, on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. 8 So Jesusa sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it.”​

John 13:

1 Just before the Passover Feast, Jesus knew that his time had come to depart from this world to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he now loved them to the very end.​

They sacrificed the Passover lamb before sunset and ate the Passover meal after sunset.

Matt 26:

20 When it was evening, he took his place at the table with the 12.​

At this point, they ate the Passover lamb.

John 13:

2 The evening meal was in progress, and the devil had already put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, that he should betray Jesus.​

They arrested Jesus. The Sanhedrin tried Jesus. Peter denied him. The rooster crowed.

Early on Friday morning, they took Jesus to Pilate. John 18:

28 Then they led Jesus from the house of Caiaphas to the governor’s headquarters. It was early morning. They themselves did not enter the governor’s headquarters, so that they would not be defiled, but could eat the Passover​

i.e., the general 8-day feast, not specifically the Passover lamb which they ate already.

Pilate sent Jesus to Herod. Herod sent him back to Pilate. Pilate delivered Jesus to be crucified.

They crucified Jesus at Golgotha. Luke 23:

44 It was now about noon, and darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon, 45 for the sun stopped shining. And the curtain of the temple was torn in two. 46 Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” When he had said this, he breathed his last.​

English Standard Version John 19:

31 Since it was the day of Preparation,​

i.e., the Friday before the Sabbath, not the preparation of the paschal lamb which occurred on Thursday

and so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away.​

Gill:

for that sabbath day was an high day; it was not only a sabbath, and a sabbath in the passover week.​

They buried Jesus before sunset (before Sabbath, Saturday).

After Jesus was buried, Matthew 27:

62 The next day [Saturday], the one after Preparation Day [Friday], the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate.​

Again "Preparation Day" was a technical term meaning the day before the Sabbath Saturday.

65 “Take a guard,” Pilate answered. “Go, make the tomb as secure as you know how.” 66 So they went and made the tomb secure by putting a seal on the stone and posting the guard.​

Jesus ate the Paschal lamb before he was crucified.

Yeshua WAS the Pascal Lamb that year. Also no lamb was mentioned at the Last Supper. Plus the fast of the firstborn was on the same day the lambs were killed, the same day Yeshua was killed (Nisan 14). Nisan 15 began the days of unleavened.

 

[tonychanyt]

Plus the fast of the firstborn was on the same day the lambs were killed, the same day Yeshua was killed (Nisan 14).

verse?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

verse?

Tradition. Where is the verse that there was lamb at the last supper?

 

[tonychanyt]

Where is the verse that there was lamb at the last supper?

Read my OP.

 

[ralliann]

Yeshua WAS the Pascal Lamb that year. Also no lamb was mentioned at the Last Supper. Plus the fast of the firstborn was on the same day the lambs were killed, the same day Yeshua was killed (Nisan 14). Nisan 15 began the days of unleavened.

Actually Genesis has the evening of the 14th day, until the evening of the twenty first day, are the seven days of unleavened bread.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Actually Genesis has the evening of the 14th day, until the evening of the twenty first day, are the seven days of unleavened bread.

Genesis?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Read my OP.

verse?

 

[tonychanyt]

Actually Genesis has the evening of the 14th day, until the evening of the twenty first day, are the seven days of unleavened bread.

Right. By the time of Jesus, it was a bit ambiguous. Sometimes it refers to 7 days, sometimes 8.

 

[tonychanyt]

verse?

Did you read this?

Luke 22:

7 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread, on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. 8 So Jesusa sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it.”​

 

[ralliann]

Genesis?

oops exodus lol

 

[ralliann]

Right. By the time of Jesus, it was a bit ambiguous. Sometimes it refers to 7 days, sometimes 8.

Actually from reading Jewish sources, there are differing counts based upon various criteria. Like there are two new years etc in Judaism. The calendar day begins at night, unleavend bread begins on the 14th day in the evening. The 14th calendar day is almost over. Then on top of that there is the count according to the sacrifices of the feast days. Morning and evening each day, for sacrifices. The festal offerings are offered following the morning sacrifices. So that count begins in the morning on the 15th day of the calendar month.
You can see these things in some of the rituals carried out. But with the sacrifices the day goes before the night, and the calendar day, the night goes before the day.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Did you read this?

Luke 22:

7 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread, on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. 8 So Jesusa sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it.”​

Lambs were not sacrificed on unleavened (the 15th). They were sacrificed on the 14th (that year a Friday), between the evenings, that is when Yeshua died. The last Supper occurred the evening before (technically the beginning of the 14th). He was in the tomb on the 15th...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Actually from reading Jewish sources, there are differing counts based upon various criteria. Like there are two new years etc in Judaism. The calendar day begins at night, unleavend bread begins on the 14th day in the evening. The 14th calendar day is almost over. Then on tyop of that there is the count according to the sacrifices of the feast days. Morning and evening each day, for sacrifices. The festal offerings are offered following the morning sacrifices. So that count begins in the morning on the 15th day of the calendar month.
You can see these things in some of the rituals carried out. But with the sacrifices the day goes before the night, and the calendar day, the night goes before the day.

2 new years as in one civil and the other feastal. The 14th is the 14th. The 14th in the evening is now the 15th.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Right. By the time of Jesus, it was a bit ambiguous. Sometimes it refers to 7 days, sometimes 8.

no it wasn't "ambiguous"

 

[tonychanyt]

no it wasn't "ambiguous"

Wiki:

Passover is traditionally celebrated in the Land of Israel for seven days and for eight days among many Jews in the Diaspora, based on the concept of yom tov sheni shel galuyot. In the Bible, the seven-day holiday is known as Chag HaMatzot, the feast of unleavened bread (matzah).[4]​

 

[tonychanyt]

Lambs were not sacrificed on unleavened (the 15th). They were sacrificed on the 14th (that year a Friday), between the evenings, that is when Yeshua died. The last Supper occurred the evening before (technically the beginning of the 14th). He was in the tomb on the 15th...

You contradicted Luke.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Wiki:

Passover is traditionally celebrated in the Land of Israel for seven days and for eight days among many Jews in the Diaspora, based on the concept of yom tov sheni shel galuyot. In the Bible, the seven-day holiday is known as Chag HaMatzot, the feast of unleavened bread (matzah).[4]​

LOL do you know what that means? passover is the 14th...Chag HaMatzot are from the 15th to the 21st, evening to evening. That is NOT ambiguous LOL

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

You contradicted Luke.

No I didn't. If you think that then Luke contradicts Exodus! Have you read it in the original Greek? When is the chametz removed?

 

[tonychanyt]

LOL do you know what that means? passover is the 14th...Chag HaMatzot are from the 15th to the 21st, evening to evening. That is NOT ambiguous LOL

Right, we miscommunicated.

What does it mean when the Bible mentions the Passover Festival?