Have you noticed how much stronger people object to gay people once they realize they're influencing their children? Their moral standards are higher!

[Richard.20.12]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/12/us/lgbtq-teachers-intolerance-classrooms-cec/index.html

"But it wasn’t until this school year that a parent came into her school’s office and said, referring to Cruz, “I don’t want to talk to the gay one.”

Well it's about time gay people that work around children realized that many parents care and very much object to their influences over their children. I can't think of a stronger reason to start home schooling. I can't imagine NOT home schooling seeing the constant evolution and gay agendas being pushed on children, not to mention the overwhelming lack of discipline in the classroom. This allows bullies to do whatever they want because they know there are almost no repercussions which makes for a very dangerous environment for children. No child should fear going to school! Yes, there have always been bullies but in the past they could be controlled and severely reprimanded: The principal's strap was one strong reprimand and really kept us in respectful. It was a line absolutely no one didn't do their best to avoid. But there is nothing like that anymore. And parents can be arrested for spanking their own children. The only way that will happen is if someone finds out and if a child is congregating amongst others it's more likely they will talk about it and a disciplinary action done with control can be completely misinterpreted by the police who are under all kinds of woke pressure.

What is shocking about this article is how out of touch gay people are today. They don't realize the vast majority of people are most definitely not OK with their choices, especially around children. It's just that there is so much pressure on people to accept this moral decay they hesitate to speak out.

It's wonderful that people like DeSantis have the courage to take on initiatives to push back. That's really takes guts. Florida is the shining star in the US. The more gay people that leave the state the better it will be. No worries, there's plenty of morally decrepit states that will welcome them.

 

[Landon Caeli]

The more gay people that leave the state the better it will be. No worries, there's plenty of morally decrepit states that will welcome them.

If DeSantis were to become president, would it be even better, because more gay people might leave the US, entirely, and flee to Canada?

 

[Wings like Eagles]

The biden regieme calls the parents domestic terriorists and want to arrest them for hate crimes.

 

[PloverWing]

"But it wasn’t until this school year that a parent came into her school’s office and said, referring to Cruz, “I don’t want to talk to the gay one.”

Well it's about time gay people that work around children realized that many parents care and very much object to their influences over their children. I can't think of a stronger reason to start home schooling. I can't imagine NOT home schooling seeing the constant evolution and gay agendas being pushed on children, not to mention the overwhelming lack of discipline in the classroom. This allows bullies to do whatever they want because they know there are almost no repercussions which makes for a very dangerous environment for children. No child should fear going to school!

The more gay people that leave the state the better it will be.

I'm a parent, and I paid very close attention to the environment in the school while my kids were still in their K-12 years. Mostly, our local school was good, but I did see some bullying. Home schooling is one approach to this. But suppose a parent wants to keep their children in a regular school. What approach do you suggest to ensure that gay kids are not bullied or excluded in school, to ensure that they never fear going to school?

 

[Hank77]

The biden regieme calls the parents domestic terriorists and want to arrest them for hate crimes.

I've heard this a few times now but have never seen a source for it myself. What is your source?

 

[Yttrium]

I sympathize with those who consider certain behavior to be sinful. However, I don't want to ostracize a portion of the population. My concern for the welfare of gay people exceeds my concern for the discomfort of social conservatives. There shouldn't be an issue with kids learning that gay people exist and learning to tolerate them. Parents have plenty of time outside school to teach their kids about what they consider to be sinful.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I sympathize with those who consider certain behavior to be sinful. However, I don't want to ostracize a portion of the population. My concern for the welfare of gay people exceeds my concern for the discomfort of social conservatives. There shouldn't be an issue with kids learning that gay people exist and learning to tolerate them. Parents have plenty of time outside school to teach their kids about what they consider to be sinful.

Your words are kinder than mine would be. Wanting gays to leave the country is clearly the goal for many.

...It's such an unjust frame of mine - I reject this extremism whole heartedly, and struggle to sympathize with them at all. In fact, I would side with the sinner over the Christian radical.

 

[Landon Caeli]

...And I do side with the sinner over the aggressive, Christian radical!

 

[Wings like Eagles]

I've heard this a few times now but have never seen a source for it myself. What is your source?

MSN

Parents stood up for their children. Then the Biden administration targeted them.

Parents have described how they have been discouraged from participating at school board meetings for fear of federal investigation.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Say it aint so]

MSN

Parents stood up for their children. Then the Biden administration targeted them.

Parents have described how they have been discouraged from participating at school board meetings for fear of federal investigation.

www.usatoday.com

That's a opinion piece by Gym Jordan.
Clearly the DOJ were referring to parents who were intimidating and threatening school board members, which was actually happening.
FACTCHECK: Attorney General Never Called Concerned Parents ‘Domestic Terrorists’

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Well, imho, gay people are humans in need of salvation just as straight people are. I said in another thread that a lot of Christians have forgotten where they came from.

 

[WolfGate]

Reconciling the OP with things like 1 Cor 5:12 and Jesus prayer for His disciples in John 17:6-17, not to mention Matthew 28:16-20 and Matthew 26:28-34, takes some seriously flawed mental gymnastics.

That is not condoning sin. We are always going to be around sin, including the sexual sin in the OP along with others including bigotry and greed and all sorts of heresy. We are not instructed to harass and remove the sinners and deny them opportunities to be in society (for what should be obvious reasons but it seems are not to too many). We are instructed to train our children in what is right and to show God's grace to sinners hoping they will come to faith in Christ.

 

[DaisyDay]

The biden regieme calls the parents domestic terriorists and want to arrest them for hate crimes.

Only the ones who indulge in terrorism (threats of death and violence) and hate crimes.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Am I interpreting the title of this thread correctly, as suggesting that "object to gay people" = "higher moral standards"..?

This seems like a heretical stance.

 

[Hank77]

Who are the anti-LGBT 'extremists' Biden hates so much?

This link is to an Opinion article. One of the links in the article "killed" is a link to the article that the Opinion author is referring to.
The Opinion author gets it wrong when he says, "The North Dakota man who, in a drunken rage, killed a teenager whom he thought was a “Republican extremist” was only echoing the rhetoric that the president had spewed on the national stage just weeks earlier."
The article from "killed" link to the Law & Crime website clearly says, "In another email to Fox News Digital, Friese also denied that his client’s actions were motivated by political ideology, saying that investigators initially got it wrong. Notably, prosecutors never alleged that Brandt was motivated by politics."

So I have to dismiss this Opinion piece as being supporting evidence.

Parents stood up for their children. Then the Biden administration targeted them.​

Parents have described how they have been discouraged from participating at school board meetings for fear of federal investigation. www.usatoday.com

The second article is also an Opinion piece but I can't read the whole article as it is for subscribers only. However, I'm aware of this issue and what the Attorney General had to say about it. I'll have to find another article for a quote.
If you could quote some facts from this article it might be helpful.

The author of this piece is Jim Jordon, that isn't Representative Jim Jordon is it?

Let me make this clear. I think we probably agree on a lot of things when it comes to what is appropriate in schools, sports, and in locker rooms. So please don't think I'm trying to prove you're wrong. I'm not, I'm trying to decide what the truth is here.

 

[DaisyDay]

Am I interpreting the title of this thread correctly, as suggesting that "object to gay people" = "higher moral standards"..?

The OP's screed supports that interpretation; it's certainly how I read it.

This seems like a heretical stance.

How so?

 

[Landon Caeli]

How so?

Maybe heresy is the wrong word. Let's replace it with misguided.

 

[Wings like Eagles]

Biden AG Merrick Garland concedes that he started targeting parents for "possible domestic terrorism" because the NSBA sent a letter.

 

[Richard.20.12]

If DeSantis were to become president, would it be even better, because more gay people might leave the US, entirely, and flee to Canada?

I realize there will always be gay people around. I just don't want to live in an area that openly welcomes and encourages them. Its like shoplifters. Some people will take things if they think they can get away with it. There have always been thieves. Likewise I don't want to live around them if I can help it. I sure wouldn't want my children going to a school where some of the teachers were admitted thieves, even if they were proud of that. Well I would say homosexuality is far worse than stealing. We are to be extremely careful when we're around children. Jesus gave the milestone example to show how important children and the care of them are. THAT's why people have taken such a strong stand recently. Because of things like drag shows in schools. Whenever the children are exposed people care a lot more strongly.

Look, you either agree with someone's choices or you disagree. Its clear in the Bible that God doesn't agree with it. In fact its condemned with every mention of it in the Bible. So let's not pretend God is not clear on this. If you can read, its clear. Now if you choose to pick and choose areas of the Bible to adhere to that's your business. But we all know that makes no sense. God wants us to make good choices. That's the essence of life. Every second of the day we make a choice.

 

[adrianmonk]

Biden AG Merrick Garland concedes that he started targeting parents for "possible domestic terrorism" because the NSBA sent a letter.

That video does not support your claim about targeting parents for “domestic terrorism”. Just that they are looking into reports of threats of violence. The only accurate part of your claim is the NSBA letter.