Is it right to remove bibles from elementary school libraries?

[Xeno.of.athens]

Is it right to remove bibles from elementary school libraries?

As you may have heard or seen in the media a Utah school district has voted to remove the bible from elementary school libraries because of inappropriate and violent content. Is that the right thing to do?

 

[High Fidelity]

Yes, because it is being held to the same standards that were pushed by those thinking they were protecting it.

Whether we like it or not, it falls into the same category deemed unacceptable by others, though clearly backfired.

 

[HTacianas]

Is it right to remove bibles from elementary school libraries?

As you may have heard or seen in the media a Utah school district has voted to remove the bible from elementary school libraries because of inappropriate contentographic and violent content. Is that the right thing to do?

It probably should. The bible contains extremely harsh language in parts and is not suitable for children. That's why we've always had children's bibles that don't contain it.

 

[BobRyan]

Is it right to remove bibles from elementary school libraries?

As you may have heard or seen in the media a Utah school district has voted to remove the bible from elementary school libraries because of inappropriate and violent content. Is that the right thing to do?

Only under Communism or atheist socialism and even then one could argue it is till wrong.

IN America we have Christian prayer at the start of each session of congress.
IN America Presidents are sworn in to office using the Bible.

Signing of Constitution - open Bible - Matt 5

Scene at the Signing of the Constitution of the United States

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Scene at the Signing of the Constitution of the United States, by Howard Chandler Christy, 1940. House Wing, East Stairway, U.S. Capitol Building. Architect of the Capitol, Signing of the Constitution | Architect of the Capitol.

 

[RileyG]

Yes, because it is being held to the same standards that were pushed by those thinking they were protecting it.

Whether we like it or not, it falls into the same category deemed unacceptable by others, though clearly backfired.

I agree.

 

[RileyG]

I'm surprised Utah, which is ultra-Mormon, would remove Bibles, regardless.

 

[eleos1954]

Is it right to remove bibles from elementary school libraries?

As you may have heard or seen in the media a Utah school district has voted to remove the bible from elementary school libraries because of inappropriate and violent content. Is that the right thing to do?

Bibles are widely available .... online or otherwise .... it's up to parents to raise up a child and when he is older will not depart from it.

parent responsibility .... not the school system

Parents who want to raise their children in the Lord will certainly provide them with a bible .... beyond that the Word of God is available all over the place. Yes, it does contain violence .... so do history books and many other books .... so maybe we should get rid of them as well.

It's a hypocritical stance by the school districts .. but the schools can and will do what they want ... parents have no control over the school systems .... as we see every day. Parents should find alternative education for their children if at all possible, they no longer represent christian values and besides that are failing to teach the basics .... reading, writing, arithmetic etc.

Get your kids out of public school!

 

[PloverWing]

Aside from the question of sex and violence in the Bible, there is the issue that the Bible exposes readers to the religious ideas of Christianity and Judaism, ideas which may be different from the beliefs of the parents who send their children to school. If school is envisioned as a place where children are never exposed to ideas that are different from those of their parents, then the Bible should not be there either.

Alternatively, if school is envisioned as a place where children encounter a wide variety of ideas, thereby broadening their understanding of the world, then it could be appropriate to have all kinds of books in the school library.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Aside from the question of sex and violence in the Bible, there is the issue that the Bible exposes readers to the religious ideas of Christianity and Judaism, ideas which may be different from the beliefs of the parents who send their children to school. If school is envisioned as a place where children are never exposed to ideas that are different from those of their parents, then the Bible should not be there either.

Alternatively, if school is envisioned as a place where children encounter a wide variety of ideas, thereby broadening their understanding of the world, then it could be appropriate to have all kinds of books in the school library.

One could have a children's bible, a children's quran, and so forth. That might be acceptable because the children's versions are, presumably, bereft of sex and horrendous violence.

 

[Blade]

Christ is coming.. we in the USA .. never truly get to see the hate the world has for Christ but its coming.

 

[Philip_B]

Given the importance of the Christian Tradition in the formation of many societies which we might describe as Western Democracies, it seems unusual to specifically remove Bibles from libraries. If we don't know where we have come from, we will have no idea where we are going.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Given the importance of the Christian Tradition in the formation of many societies which we might describe as Western Democracies, it seems unusual to specifically remove Bibles from libraries. If we don't know where we have come from, we will have no idea where we are going.

It is only elementary school libraries, not all libraries.

 

[Philip_B]

It is only elementary school libraries, not all libraries.

An elementary school is the main point of delivery of primary education in the United States, for children between the ages of 4–14 and coming between pre-kindergarten and secondary education.

At the top end that is 4 years off voting age in the US

 

[SavedByGrace3]

May have the opposite effect than they are hoping for. People will wonder what is so powerful and important about this old book that the state wants to censor it? Kids will start sneaking Bible into school. Contraband is always a little exciting.
"Hey kid... I got the good stuff here. 1611, authorized, red letter edition."

 

[Servus]

It never would have occurred to me that elementary school libraries had bibles. The argument I have against it is it could be said if a school library has the Bible, it should have any book about any religion. Even occultic religions. So I say keep them all out. They're simply not part of public elementary school curriculum.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Given the importance of the Christian Tradition in the formation of many societies which we might describe as Western Democracies, it seems unusual to specifically remove Bibles from libraries. If we don't know where we have come from, we will have no idea where we are going.

These are my thoughts also. The schools should educate and prepare kids for the real world. The real world is saturated with religion of every kind and sort. It is a driving force in virtually every culture and individual lives around the world. To eliminate this reality from their early life in this social setting is to present them with an atypical and incomplete picture of the real world. It also deformalizes the part religion has in our lives and in culture as a whole. Instead they are presented with a world where 52 genders and aberrant sexual behavior is the norm. What do you think is going to happen?
People of faith should not abdicate their legitimate and necessary role in culture at the behest of oppressive secular and political philosophy. I think western Christianity has dropped the ball in this. Not only are we banned from public displays and practice in state settings (which are expanding), but we are not allowed to discuss political issues in our private churches (which are diminishing). You do not find this a little odd that separation of church and state comes down to suppressing faith outside of church and at the same time limiting political speech in churches. Seems a little one sided. Heavy on the "establishment" concept while pretty lite on the "free exercise" part.
Stand up for Him. I recall a prophecy from a few years ago where the Lord asked "Why are you ashamed of me?" I think this is a true estimation of our willingness to live our faith in an increasingly oppressive secular society. Or is it that we are easily bamboozled and are bowing down to Caesar? hmmmmmm??? The state is just giving us an easy and convenient excuse to keep ourselves out of the lion's den and colosseum.

 

[Hawkins]

To a certain extent, humans are creatures of childhood education. Childhood education and experience are a determinant on how a person is developed. From this perspective, to allow secular education serving as the sole agent to affect a person's development is never a good thing.

In a nutshell, humans buy into the concept that secular education is 'neutral' for the development of independent thinking. But in contrary, that independence is, perhaps without humans' own awareness, deeply rooted on the asumption that no God exists. So if this assumption is wrong, the impact to humans is disastrous. The much more intelligent angelic beings, if exist, will definitely exploit the 'weakness' of this human system, to make the situation far more disastrous.

That said. I did find that the angelic beings exploited this humans system, such that humans who go through this system all developed a fallacious concept that "you, a scientific person, should only believe something which can be evidenced", which is one of the biggest lies and deceptions I've ever seen.

Now how disastrous the situation is?
Just as prophesied, all humans who went through such a system are with a mark on their forehead (mind) and right hand (behavior) to fight God. That's how disastrous it is. Are they with independent thinking? I'a afraid not. Instead, they are all plagued with the fallacious thinking that "one should only believe something which can be evidenced" (the hidden message behind is one shouldn't believe God).

More likely, our education system is more or less like the Tree of Knowledge which Satan led Eve and Adam to eat from it. That's why the same day you choose to eat from it, the same day you shall surely die. Please notice that the Bible never said that the Tree itself is bad! The consequential situation however is disastrous.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I generally wouldn't have even expected an elementary school's library to have a Bible in the first place. Not because it's a religion book, but because I wouldn't expect a lot of elementary school children checking out a Bible. For kids that age, I'd expect only Christian children to be exposed to the Bible, at home and at church.

I don't even know that at my Fundamentalist Baptist elementary school library they had Bibles. The school provided Bibles to each student at the beginning of the school year, so it likely just wasn't necessary.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[PsaltiChrysostom]

What if it was a copy of the 1631 King James Version Bible?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

What if it was a copy of the 1631 King James Version Bible?

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I think they called it "The Wicked Bible."