The Covenant is only for Israel - Not the World

[HIM]

The law of liberty speaks about treating others as Jesus has treated you. If you fail to do so, you then get judged without mercy i.e. by the mosaic law.

It was asked what it was not what it asks. The Law of Liberty is first mentioned in chapter1. What does the context reveal that it is?

Paul said, I no longer sin, but it is the sin within me that sins. By identifying the sin separate from the creation, it's like a virus, an infection or something similar that causes creation to malfunction. Sin tends to be defined as a list of offenses, sometimes summary statements are provided, but these lists are just a way of identifying when treatment is required.

So the law of sin is that Paul could not help himself. As Jesus said, they whom commit sin are a slave to it. This also concurs with what Paul shared in chapter 6 in regards to sin. There he says not to serve it any more because we have become slaves to righteousness through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. This concurs with Jesus' words when He said, but if the Son shall make you free. free we are indeed, As Paul also said, The Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the Law of sin AND death, that the righteousness of the Law be fulfilled in us. Who walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh which serves the other law, the law of sin in our members.

 

[HIM]

If it's written in our hearts, then it's a different kind of "law" than in a book.

No. God tells us specifically that it is the same law. And it is not a book it is the Bible.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

It was asked what it was not what it asks. The Law of Liberty is first mentioned in chapter1. What does the context reveal that it is?

It reveals that it is about helping the poor, orphans and widows and to not to take on the qualities of the world that doesn't do that.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

So the law of sin is that Paul could not help himself. As Jesus said, they whom commit sin are a slave to it. This also concurs with what Paul shared in chapter 6 in regards to sin. There he says not to serve it any more because we have become slaves to righteousness through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. This concurs with Jesus' words when He said, but if the Son shall make you free. free we are indeed, As Paul also said, The Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the Law of sin AND death, that the righteousness of the Law be fulfilled in us. Who walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh which serves the other law, the law of sin in our members.

However, if you just ignore that your body produces sin (the unique lesson of Romans 7), then your eye becomes filled with darkness. And if the light within you becomes darkness, how great is that darkness?

Instead of ignoring the sin, we must become aware of it, confess it, and take captive the thoughts and make them obedient to Christ.

This can only be done with the providence provided by the Holy Spirit, to whom the bible makes a poor substitute.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

No. God tells us specifically that it is the same law. And it is not a book it is the Bible.

Untrue, Galatians is explicit that the law was administered by Angels. The teachings of Jesus were based on what God the Father told Jesus the Son directly.

Jesus is the "word" that is written on our hearts, the word that became flesh. Full of grace and truth.

 

[HIM]

Untrue,

You are mistaken. God tells us specifically that the commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law are in our hearts and and in our mouths that we do it.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

That is part of it. Scripture gets more specific it says the commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law is that which is in our hearts and in our mouths that we do it. That is the faith in which we preach.

Scripture gets even more specific and provides a summary of the law, it refers to love fulfilling.

Scripture makes it abundantly clear that Love being made mature or perfected in us is what gives us confidence on the day of judgment, not following the law. The law falls short of the requirements of God in this new and improved covenant. Jesus satisfied the the requirements of the previous covenant, and gave us one that allowed us to approach God without fear, just as He said He would in the time of Moses.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

You are mistaken. God tells us specifically that the commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law are in our hearts and and in our mouths that we do it.

The righteous live by faith, if righteousness comes by the law then Christ died in vain. It is written.

 

[HIM]

It reveals that it is about helping the poor, orphans and widows and to not to take on the qualities of the world that doesn't do that.

Look deeper friend. Not what it is about. What is it?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Look deeper friend. Not what it is about. What is it?

I have looked deeper, the law of liberty is Jesus Christ.

In that we have been set free, we set others free.

In that we have been given generosity from God, we show the same generosity to others.

In that we have been forgiven, we forgive others.

Whatever Jesus has done for us, we do for others.

 

[HIM]

The righteous live by faith, if righteousness comes by the law then Christ died in vain. It is written.

And that faith comes from the changed heart. The one with God's commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law in it through Christ.

As was said God specifically tells us it is the commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law that are in our hearts and mouths.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

And that faith comes from the changed heart. The one with God's commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law in it through Christ.

As was said God specifically tells us it is the commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law that are in our hearts and mouths.

To reflect on the gospels, you sound like the elder son of the prodigal son story. Thus the bible reproves said attitude.

 

[HIM]

I have looked deeper,

If you have your answer would be different. Take care.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

If you have your answer would be different. Take care.

Heavenly Father, I confess the pride expressed in the internet post in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

 

[HIM]

To reflect on the gospels, you sound like the elder son of the prodigal son story. Thus the bible reproves said attitude.

Yet you never asked where it is written. Instead you resort to this.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Yet you never asked where it is written. Instead you resort to this.

It was illustrating a need for repentance, I hope you have good day.

 

[HIM]

Heavenly Father, I confess the pride expressed in the internet post in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

And again you never asked what is it if not what you say. But resort to this...

 

[Gregory Thompson]

And again you never asked what is it if not what you say. But resort to this...

When there is sin, it must be addressed and confessed. To refer to James, sin after being conceived becomes death. To quote John, when there is a sin that is unto death, we are not obligated to pray about that. It is indeed a serious matter.

 

[HIM]

When there is sin, it must be addressed and confessed. To refer to James, sin after being conceived becomes death. To quote John, when there is a sin that is unto death, we are not obligated to pray about that. It is indeed a serious matter.

James tell us what the Law of Liberty is. It does not tell us it is Jesus Christ as you said. What does it say?

Scripture tells us that the commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law are in our hearts and mouths. Paul knew this as did those he wrote to in Romans. Because it is written.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

James tell us what the Law of Liberty is. It does not tell us it is Jesus Christ as you said. What does it say?

Scripture tells us that the commandments and statutes contained in the Book of the Law are in our hearts and mouths. Paul knew this as did those he wrote to in Romans. Because it is written.

I don't think we're going to agree on anything, thanks for the discussion.