Marsupials Are 'Far More Evolved' Than Other Mammals, Even Humans

[AV1611VET]

Don't sigh. That's rude. look at the numbers. Try and understand the process. They lied to you. Point out the errors if you can see any. If you can't...then what else can I say?

Actually, Brad, you want errors?

Read the OP.

This kind of stuff is what I mean when I say science changes with the weather.

And we're expected to embrace science over the Bible?

Not gonna happen.

In fact, science is never going to catch up with the Bible on its own.

It's going to take Jesus coming back for one thousand years to correct all their mistakes.

And I wouldn't be surprised if He started out taking some of us back in time to 4004 BC and showing us firsthand what He did, how He did it, what order He did it in, etc.

I can envision He having TEs take the Bible back in time with them and compare what they're seeing with what is written in Genesis 1, and seeing for themselves that it went down EXACTLY AND LITERALLY as written.

 

[JohnEmmett]

EXACTLY AND LITERALLY as written.

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[AV1611VET]

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1. They'll be in a realm of NOTHING.

2. They'll hear God speak spacetime and Earth into existence.

3. They'll see Earth as just a glob of water in the hollow of God's hand: formless and void.

4. Etc and so on. Laid out in just the order it was documented in Genesis 1. All in six days.

 

[sjastro]

"Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution."

Good grief I don't agree with Sabine Hossenfelder on some occasions but this video gives an insight of the range mathematics in the sciences while also giving a philosophical perspective.

 

[JohnEmmett]

this video gives an insight of the range mathematics in the sciences while also giving a philosophical perspective.

Are you really a Christian like your profile says

 

[JohnEmmett]

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[dlamberth]

It's a process of one wrong after another.

Yet...here we are. So it can't be wrong.

 

[dlamberth]

To me your statement is nonsensical. I have never seen any particular reason to allot a meaning to life. I don't even know what 'meaning' actually means in this context.

Meaning of life statements are simply well worn cliches bereft of sense - and meaning.

OB

To this person at least, meaning of life inner experiences do mean a lot. I've found that they have a way of bringing in a bit of wisdom.

 

[dlamberth]

God can create, evolution can’t

I'm not sure how to separate God from Evolution. It's all part of the same package.

 

[Occams Barber]

To this person at least, meaning of life inner experiences do mean a lot. I've found that they have a way of bringing in a bit of wisdom.

The 'meaning of life' question in its broad sense refers to a search for an ultimate, overarching meaning to life as opposed to the lesser (but still important) learning experiences/events we encounter from time to time.

The idea of meaning or purpose to life automatically infers someone or something which provides that overall meaning or purpose - typically some form of deity.

To me the question of the meaning of life can only make sense where there is a belief in some higher power allocating meaning or purpose.

Since there is, in my view, no god, I see no purpose and no need for a purpose.

Even Christians have trouble defining the purpose of life and tend to fall back on vague theobabble.

OB

 

[dlamberth]

Throwing metaphors around (like 'below' & 'realm') can also be a lazy way of avoiding explaining or thinking too hard.

On the flip side, it could also mean that after thinking about it deeply, for that person those are the words that best point towards what they see.

 

[dlamberth]

The 'meaning of life' question in its broad sense refers to a search for an ultimate, overarching meaning to life as opposed to the lesser (but still important) learning experiences/events we encounter from time to time.

Where I disagree is that the question of the "meaning of life" is a personal inner question. Yes, some may claim "ultimate answers". But there is no ultimate answer. Still, it's a question a person who is interested in life might ask. It's also a question who's answer changes over time because of their experiences/events.

The idea of meaning or purpose to life automatically infers someone or something which provides that overall meaning or purpose - typically some form of deity.

Maybe, but not necessarily. I think what's important is just asking the questions about the meaning of life. No deity needed. We can't escape being apart of life. We have self-consciousness, so being conscious to life it seems a good question to be asking.

To me the question of the meaning of life can only make sense where there is a belief in some higher power allocating meaning or purpose.

I'm not in that kind of box. I see it as more a question about life, and I don't know how to limit life. So I'm not understanding the limitations your talking about.

Since there is, in my view, no god, I see no purpose and no need for a purpose.

I understand what your saying, but it seems to me that looking at the meaning of life does not need a God in which to couch the question. Again, I just don't get that kind of limitation on life.

Even Christians have trouble defining the purpose of life and tend to fall back on vague theobabble.

OB

The idea isn't to have a final answer. There's no such thing. That's like trying to describe infinity. But it seems to me that just asking about the meaning of life does have a way of opening one's eyes do other/different possibilities of our life perspectives. And I think that's a good thing.

 

[Occams Barber]

Where I disagree is that the question of the "meaning of life" is a personal inner question. Yes, some may claim "ultimate answers". But there is no ultimate answer. Still, it's a question a person who is interested in life might ask. It's also a question who's answer changes over time because of their experiences/events.

Maybe, but not necessarily. I think what's important is just asking the questions about the meaning of life. No deity needed. We can't escape being apart of life. We have self-consciousness, so being conscious to life it seems a good question to be asking.

I'm not in that kind of box. I see it as more a question about life, and I don't know how to limit life. So I'm not understanding the limitations your talking about.

I understand what your saying, but it seems to me that looking at the meaning of life does not need a God in which to couch the question. Again, I just don't get that kind of limitation on life.

The idea isn't to have a final answer. There's no such thing. That's like trying to describe infinity. But it seems to me that just asking about the meaning of life does have a way of opening one's eyes do other/different possibilities of our life perspectives. And I think that's a good thing.

You are talking about a meaning of life. One of any number of 'meanings' or purposes which may or may not be shared.

I'm talking about the meaning of life. A single overarching meaning/purpose common to all humans. That's why we call it the meaning of life

We think it exists because we describe it as the meaning of life.

Add in the fact that we need an agent to define the meaning/purpose and we end up with a nice little circular argument about the meaning of life proving there's a God and God proving there's a meaning to life.

I agree it (the meaning of life) doesn't exist, that's my whole point. But that doesn't stop people from insisting it must exist. I'm not talking about whether believing is a good or bad thing. It's actually a knee jerk assumption.


OB

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

On the flip side, it could also mean that after thinking about it deeply, for that person those are the words that best point towards what they see.

In this context, they were vague, ambiguous, & ill-defined, so clearly inappropriate for an argument or claim about evolution ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

You are talking about a meaning of life. One of any number of 'meanings' or purposes which may or may not be shared.

I'm talking about the meaning of life. A single overarching meaning/purpose common to all humans. That's why we call it the meaning of life

We think it exists because we describe it as the meaning of life.

Add in the fact that we need an agent to define the meaning/purpose and we end up with a nice little circular argument about the meaning of life proving there's a God and God proving there's a meaning to life.

I agree it (the meaning of life) doesn't exist, that's my whole point. But that doesn't stop people from insisting it must exist. I'm not talking about whether believing is a good or bad thing. It's actually a knee jerk assumption.


OB

Yes; meaning is subjective, interpretive, not objective - even if everyone were to agree on some meaning or other.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yet...here we are. So it can't be wrong.

You could say the same about panspermia.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

"A new study challenges the idea that marsupials are more 'primitive' than mammals by showing their development has changed more than mammals since they last shared an ancestor."

Marsupials Are 'Far More Evolved' Than Other Mammals, Even Humans

Ouch! This must be the clumsiest article on evolution I've seen for years...

 

[dlamberth]

You are talking about a meaning of life. One of any number of 'meanings' or purposes which may or may not be shared.

I'm talking about the meaning of life. A single overarching meaning/purpose common to all humans. That's why we call it the meaning of life

We think it exists because we describe it as the meaning of life.

Add in the fact that we need an agent to define the meaning/purpose and we end up with a nice little circular argument about the meaning of life proving there's a God and God proving there's a meaning to life.

I agree it (the meaning of life) doesn't exist, that's my whole point. But that doesn't stop people from insisting it must exist. I'm not talking about whether believing is a good or bad thing. It's actually a knee jerk assumption.


OB

It's all subjective.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's all subjective.

Yes.

Subject your life to Jesus Christ, before it's too late.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Yes.

Subject your life to Jesus Christ, before it's too late.

proximity to god is purifying, it’s purity that leads to heaven


one can purify their mind other ways…