Squatters

[Mayzoo]

Squatter's rights is a complicated, unjust issue. We just recently learned about a person's redemption rights after a foreclosure. The laws are not written in favor of landlords, people who owner finance or buy a foreclosed property.

In my experience, crime/unethical/irresponsible behaviour does pay, and the ones who pay for it are the ones who obey the laws/are ethical and responsible.

 

[rjs330]

It is, but they have to be proven false before he can be trespassed. If my landlord could have me evicted simply by telling the cops that the lease I showed them was fake, that would not be good.

Well that goes without saying.

 

[rjs330]

Maybe he's breaking the law. Or maybe the owner is lying and he does have a valid lease. LE must first establish that he is not a valid tenant before he can be trespassed. That can take time, especially if he has done a good job of falsifying the lease, so the reality is that the eviction process may be the quickest way to get him out.

I agree, but in this case the police are not doing anything. Which is a violation of public trust, just as much as anytime they fail to do their job.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Well that goes without saying.

That's pretty much what you're demanding here though.

I agree, but in this case the police are not doing anything. Which is a violation of public trust, just as much as anytime they fail to do their job.

I'm not sure what they can do. The "tenant" has a lease with (I'm assuming) the owner's name and signature. As far as beat cops go, that makes it a civil matter - they're not capable of determining if it's a forgery or not.

It's not clear whether or not she's made any attempt to escalate the issue with a supervisor or the DA, or if she's reported it as fraud rather than a residency dispute. I'm sympathetic to her frustration, but there just isn't enough information to justify the level of outrage you're displaying here.

 

[rjs330]

That's pretty much what you're demanding here though.

I'm not sure what they can do. The "tenant" has a lease with (I'm assuming) the owner's name and signature. As far as beat cops go, that makes it a civil matter - they're not capable of determining if it's a forgery or not.

It's not clear whether or not she's made any attempt to escalate the issue with a supervisor or the DA, or if she's reported it as fraud rather than a residency dispute. I'm sympathetic to her frustration, but there just isn't enough information to justify the level of outrage you're displaying here.

Why would you assume that?

Forgery is a crime. And if a person states forgery was involved the cops have duty to investigate it. All she has to do do is present a legal document with her signature on it. Compaire the signatures and you can see the difference. A beat cop can do that. And I seriously doubt this common criminal was able to forge this woman's signature to make it look exactly like hers.

Nothing in the article makes any reference to that. It does say the lease has a disconnected phone number.

But what if the signature isn't different enough?

How do you think they investigate forgeries?
One of the ways is handwriting analysis. Signature analysis. No beat cops are not trained in doing that. Not typically anyway. So they give it to someone who can.

This whole thing could be cleared up in a matter of a day or two if not on the spot.

The cops didn't do their job.

This deserves outrage because this guy is trespassing on this woman's property. She cannot use it or sell it as is her right as the owner.

If someone stole your car and then claimed you sold it to him and showed the police some forged piece of paper and they just shrugged their shoulder and said you had to take it to civil court how would you feel?