HOW ALEXANDER THE GREATS CONQUEST DOES NOT FIT INTO DANIEL 8
According to Dan 8:19 the vision in Dan 8 pertains to the final period of indignation or the end of the end times, which disqualifies Alexander the Great’s conquest because it took place in 331 BC, which is before the end times began.
Dan. 8:19 He said, “Behold, I am going to let you know what will occur at the final period of the indignation, for it pertains to the appointed time of the end.
Since the vision pertains to the end of the end times and Media and Persia are no longer called by these names, this tells us that these ancient names, which are found in Dan 8:20 are symbolic of the names of these regions in the end of the end times. Today Media is called Iraq and Persia is called Iran. The fact that the vision takes place in the end of the end times and these ancient kingdoms and their ancient names are no longer in existence, disqualifies Alexander the Greats conquest as the fulfillment of Dan 8, since Alexander the Great’s conquest took place in 331 BC, which is before the end times began and he defeated Persia, which in the vision of the end of the end times symbolically represents Iran. The vision in Dan 8 depicts a war that involves the kings of Iran and Iraq, which supports the idea that the two horns symbolized King Ayatollah Khmeini of Iran and Saddam Hussein of Iraq. Saddam Hussein was the longer horn that came up last as described in Dan 8:3
Dan 8:20 “The ram which you saw with the two horns represents the kings of Media and Persia.
Dan 8:3 Then I lifted my gaze and looked, and behold, a ram which had two horns was standing in front of the canal. Now the two horns were long, but one was longer than the other, with the longer one coming up last.
The fact that Dan 8:20 and Dan 8:7 tell us the shaggy goat with the large conspicuous horn defeats both the kings of Media and Persia, disqualifies Alexander the Greats’ conquest as the fulfillment of Dan 8 because he only defeated King Darius of Persia. At the time Alexander the Great’s Conquest took place there was no kingdom or king of Media. In contrast to this, Iran and Iraq were in existance during the Persian Gulf War and King Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran took part in the Persian Gulf War when he agreed to trade with Iraq if an embargo was imposed and he allowed King Saddam Hussein of Iraq to hide his Air Force in Iran to keep it from being destroyed by the Shaggy Goat that came from the west, which symbolized the US led coalition of 34 nations.
Dan 8:20 “The ram which you saw with the two horns represents the kings of Media and Persia.
Dan 8:7 I saw him come beside the ram, and he was enraged at him; and he struck the ram and shattered his two horns, and the ram had no strength to withstand him. So he hurled him to the ground and trampled on him, and there was none to rescue the ram from his power.
The fact that Dan 8:21 tells us that the large conspicuous horn is the first of the ten kings, which according to Dan 7:24 the antichrist arises from among, disqualifies the idea that the large conspicuous horn symbolized Alexander the Great, since Alexander the Great is dead and the Antichrist has not emerged on the scene yet. This disqualification adds to the fact that the vision pertains to the end of end times and Alexander the Greats’ conquest took place before the end times even began.
Dan. 8:5 While I was observing, behold, a male goat was coming from the west over the surface of the whole earth without touching the ground; and the goat had a conspicuous horn between his eyes.
Dan 8:21 “The shaggy goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the large horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Dan 7:24 ‘As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings.
The fact that Dan 8:22 tells us that the large conspicuous horn between the goats eyes broke and in its place four conspicuous horns grew towards the four winds of heaven without the authority of the king of that nation, disqualifies the explanation that this symbolized when Alexander the Great died and the kingdom Greece divided into four regions that were given to four of his generals, because when Dan 8:22 states that the horn broke without the authority of the king it is depicting that the break up took place while the king was alive as opposed to the idea that the break up occurred as a result of the king dying. Furthermore Alexander the Great’s kingdom never divided into four regions when he died, it imploded when the generals he placed over the regions he conquered fought with one another until Rome seized control of the kingdom.
Dan 8:22 “The broken horn and the four horns that arose in its place represent four kingdoms which will arise from his nation, although not with his power.
The fact that horn between the goats eyes symbolizes the nation the first of the ten kings that the Antichrist arises from among, disqualifies the idea that the broken horn symbolized the break up of The Kingdom of Greece, since this idea destroys the ten-nation kingdom before the other nine kings emerge as well as the ten-nation kingdom becoming part of the fourth and final beast depicted in Rev 13:1. The ten horns in Rev 13:1 symbolize the ten-nation kingdom and the diadems symbolize the ten men who receive authority as kings when they join with the seven heads.
Rev. 13:1 And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names.
The fact that Dan.8:22 tells us that the horn brakes and it is place four conspicuous kingdoms arise without the authority of the king of that nation, supports the idea that it is not the nation that brakes up, but rather it is an entity within the nation that brakes up. This is what took place in Saudi Arabia after the Persian Gulf War when, without the authority of King Fahd, the dissident Muslims, led by Osama bin Laden, broke away from the main line Muslims, and this caused the dissident Muslims around the world to do the same and begin forming the four dissident Muslim kingdoms, which in accordance with Dan.8:22 began growing throughout the earth or towards the four winds of heaven. Jesus did not reveal the names of the kingdoms, but He did reveal to me that the four conspicuous kingdoms are made up of the proliferating dissident Muslims. As far as I can tell from my research the four conspicuous Muslim kingdoms include Al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and Hezbollah. Dan.8:23 supports this revelation when it reveals that these four conspicuous kingdoms are committing transgressions, which are the terrorist acts that these four Muslim terrorist kingdoms have been committing throughout the earth.
Dan 8:8 Then the male goat magnified himself exceedingly. But as soon as he was mighty, the large horn was broken; and in its place there came up four conspicuous horns toward the four winds of heaven.
Dan 8:23 “In the latter period of their rule,
When the transgressors have run their course
A king will arise,
Insolent and skilled in intrigue.
The fact that Dan 7:24 tells us that the Antichrist emerges from among ten kings who emerge within a ten-nation kingdom that exists within the four conspicuous horns or the four Muslim terrorist kingdoms, disqualifies the idea that the four conspicuous horns found in Dan 8:8 symbolized the four regions some academics in Christianity erroneously claim the Kingdom of Greece was divided into when Alexander the Great died.
Dan 7:24 ‘As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings.
In addition to the fact that according to Dan 8:23 these four conspicuous horns commit transgressions throughout the earth until the antichrist arises disqualifies that the break up of the Greek Empire after Alexander the Great died is the fulfillment of this verse the numerous regions that emerged did not commit transgressions throughout the earth and the antichrist did not arise out of any them while they were in existence.
Dan 8:23 “In the latter period of their rule,
When the transgressors have run their course,
A king will arise,
Insolent and skilled in intrigue.
When we take into consideration that the 10 diadems found in Rev. 13:1 symbolize the ten kings, that emerge within the ten-nation kingdom found in Dan 7:24, we can see that the large horn that Dan.8:8 tells us broke has to symbolize the nation the first of the ten kings arises from, which is described in Dan 8:21.
Rev. 13:1 And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names.
Dan 7:24 ‘As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings
Dan 8:8 Then the male goat magnified himself exceedingly. But as soon as he was mighty, the large horn was broken; and in its place there came up four conspicuous horns toward the four winds of heaven.
Dan 8:21 “The shaggy goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the large horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Jesus revealed to me that the ten-nation kingdom is made up of those nations that surround Israel that are working together or as a kingdom to overthrow Israel and the ten kings that arise within the ten-nation kingdom are the emerging dominant leaders of the terrorist organizations that are working side by side with the kings of the ten-nation kingdom.
The fact that the horn between the shaggy goats eye symbolizes:
- the nation that helps the shaggy goat defeat the kings of Media (Iraq) and Persia (Iran), (Dan 8:5)
- the nation with the entity that breaks up without the authority of the king, which causes four
conspicuous kingdoms to grow throughout the earth (Dan 8:8)
- the nation that the first of the ten kings arises from (Dan 8:21 and Dan 7:24)
disqualifies the idea that the horn between the goats eyes that breaks symbolizes Alexander the Great’s death.
I would also like to add that because Dan 8:21 tells us that the horn between the goats eyes symbolizes the nation associated with the first of the ten kings, means that this nation is part of the fourth and final beast that the Antichrist will form and defeat Babylon the great, which obviously disqualifies the idea that the horn between the goats eyes symbolized Alexander the Great because he died and therefore cannot be part of the fourth beast that the Antichrist heads and Jesus destroys without human agency at His coming.
Dan 8:21 “The shaggy goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the large horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Dan 7:24 ‘As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings.
Dan7:7 “After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.
According to Dan 8:19 the vision in Dan 8 pertains to the final period of indignation or the end of the end times, which disqualifies Alexander the Great’s conquest because it took place in 331 BC, which is before the end times began.
Dan. 8:19 He said, “Behold, I am going to let you know what will occur at the final period of the indignation, for it pertains to the appointed time of the end.
Since the vision pertains to the end of the end times and Media and Persia are no longer called by these names, this tells us that these ancient names, which are found in Dan 8:20 are symbolic of the names of these regions in the end of the end times. Today Media is called Iraq and Persia is called Iran. The fact that the vision takes place in the end of the end times and these ancient kingdoms and their ancient names are no longer in existence, disqualifies Alexander the Greats conquest as the fulfillment of Dan 8, since Alexander the Great’s conquest took place in 331 BC, which is before the end times began and he defeated Persia, which in the vision of the end of the end times symbolically represents Iran. The vision in Dan 8 depicts a war that involves the kings of Iran and Iraq, which supports the idea that the two horns symbolized King Ayatollah Khmeini of Iran and Saddam Hussein of Iraq. Saddam Hussein was the longer horn that came up last as described in Dan 8:3
Dan 8:20 “The ram which you saw with the two horns represents the kings of Media and Persia.
Dan 8:3 Then I lifted my gaze and looked, and behold, a ram which had two horns was standing in front of the canal. Now the two horns were long, but one was longer than the other, with the longer one coming up last.
The fact that Dan 8:20 and Dan 8:7 tell us the shaggy goat with the large conspicuous horn defeats both the kings of Media and Persia, disqualifies Alexander the Greats’ conquest as the fulfillment of Dan 8 because he only defeated King Darius of Persia. At the time Alexander the Great’s Conquest took place there was no kingdom or king of Media. In contrast to this, Iran and Iraq were in existance during the Persian Gulf War and King Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran took part in the Persian Gulf War when he agreed to trade with Iraq if an embargo was imposed and he allowed King Saddam Hussein of Iraq to hide his Air Force in Iran to keep it from being destroyed by the Shaggy Goat that came from the west, which symbolized the US led coalition of 34 nations.
Dan 8:20 “The ram which you saw with the two horns represents the kings of Media and Persia.
Dan 8:7 I saw him come beside the ram, and he was enraged at him; and he struck the ram and shattered his two horns, and the ram had no strength to withstand him. So he hurled him to the ground and trampled on him, and there was none to rescue the ram from his power.
The fact that Dan 8:21 tells us that the large conspicuous horn is the first of the ten kings, which according to Dan 7:24 the antichrist arises from among, disqualifies the idea that the large conspicuous horn symbolized Alexander the Great, since Alexander the Great is dead and the Antichrist has not emerged on the scene yet. This disqualification adds to the fact that the vision pertains to the end of end times and Alexander the Greats’ conquest took place before the end times even began.
Dan. 8:5 While I was observing, behold, a male goat was coming from the west over the surface of the whole earth without touching the ground; and the goat had a conspicuous horn between his eyes.
Dan 8:21 “The shaggy goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the large horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Dan 7:24 ‘As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings.
The fact that Dan 8:22 tells us that the large conspicuous horn between the goats eyes broke and in its place four conspicuous horns grew towards the four winds of heaven without the authority of the king of that nation, disqualifies the explanation that this symbolized when Alexander the Great died and the kingdom Greece divided into four regions that were given to four of his generals, because when Dan 8:22 states that the horn broke without the authority of the king it is depicting that the break up took place while the king was alive as opposed to the idea that the break up occurred as a result of the king dying. Furthermore Alexander the Great’s kingdom never divided into four regions when he died, it imploded when the generals he placed over the regions he conquered fought with one another until Rome seized control of the kingdom.
Dan 8:22 “The broken horn and the four horns that arose in its place represent four kingdoms which will arise from his nation, although not with his power.
The fact that horn between the goats eyes symbolizes the nation the first of the ten kings that the Antichrist arises from among, disqualifies the idea that the broken horn symbolized the break up of The Kingdom of Greece, since this idea destroys the ten-nation kingdom before the other nine kings emerge as well as the ten-nation kingdom becoming part of the fourth and final beast depicted in Rev 13:1. The ten horns in Rev 13:1 symbolize the ten-nation kingdom and the diadems symbolize the ten men who receive authority as kings when they join with the seven heads.
Rev. 13:1 And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names.
The fact that Dan.8:22 tells us that the horn brakes and it is place four conspicuous kingdoms arise without the authority of the king of that nation, supports the idea that it is not the nation that brakes up, but rather it is an entity within the nation that brakes up. This is what took place in Saudi Arabia after the Persian Gulf War when, without the authority of King Fahd, the dissident Muslims, led by Osama bin Laden, broke away from the main line Muslims, and this caused the dissident Muslims around the world to do the same and begin forming the four dissident Muslim kingdoms, which in accordance with Dan.8:22 began growing throughout the earth or towards the four winds of heaven. Jesus did not reveal the names of the kingdoms, but He did reveal to me that the four conspicuous kingdoms are made up of the proliferating dissident Muslims. As far as I can tell from my research the four conspicuous Muslim kingdoms include Al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and Hezbollah. Dan.8:23 supports this revelation when it reveals that these four conspicuous kingdoms are committing transgressions, which are the terrorist acts that these four Muslim terrorist kingdoms have been committing throughout the earth.
Dan 8:8 Then the male goat magnified himself exceedingly. But as soon as he was mighty, the large horn was broken; and in its place there came up four conspicuous horns toward the four winds of heaven.
Dan 8:23 “In the latter period of their rule,
When the transgressors have run their course
A king will arise,
Insolent and skilled in intrigue.
The fact that Dan 7:24 tells us that the Antichrist emerges from among ten kings who emerge within a ten-nation kingdom that exists within the four conspicuous horns or the four Muslim terrorist kingdoms, disqualifies the idea that the four conspicuous horns found in Dan 8:8 symbolized the four regions some academics in Christianity erroneously claim the Kingdom of Greece was divided into when Alexander the Great died.
Dan 7:24 ‘As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings.
In addition to the fact that according to Dan 8:23 these four conspicuous horns commit transgressions throughout the earth until the antichrist arises disqualifies that the break up of the Greek Empire after Alexander the Great died is the fulfillment of this verse the numerous regions that emerged did not commit transgressions throughout the earth and the antichrist did not arise out of any them while they were in existence.
Dan 8:23 “In the latter period of their rule,
When the transgressors have run their course,
A king will arise,
Insolent and skilled in intrigue.
When we take into consideration that the 10 diadems found in Rev. 13:1 symbolize the ten kings, that emerge within the ten-nation kingdom found in Dan 7:24, we can see that the large horn that Dan.8:8 tells us broke has to symbolize the nation the first of the ten kings arises from, which is described in Dan 8:21.
Rev. 13:1 And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names.
Dan 7:24 ‘As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings
Dan 8:8 Then the male goat magnified himself exceedingly. But as soon as he was mighty, the large horn was broken; and in its place there came up four conspicuous horns toward the four winds of heaven.
Dan 8:21 “The shaggy goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the large horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Jesus revealed to me that the ten-nation kingdom is made up of those nations that surround Israel that are working together or as a kingdom to overthrow Israel and the ten kings that arise within the ten-nation kingdom are the emerging dominant leaders of the terrorist organizations that are working side by side with the kings of the ten-nation kingdom.
The fact that the horn between the shaggy goats eye symbolizes:
- the nation that helps the shaggy goat defeat the kings of Media (Iraq) and Persia (Iran), (Dan 8:5)
- the nation with the entity that breaks up without the authority of the king, which causes four
conspicuous kingdoms to grow throughout the earth (Dan 8:8)
- the nation that the first of the ten kings arises from (Dan 8:21 and Dan 7:24)
disqualifies the idea that the horn between the goats eyes that breaks symbolizes Alexander the Great’s death.
I would also like to add that because Dan 8:21 tells us that the horn between the goats eyes symbolizes the nation associated with the first of the ten kings, means that this nation is part of the fourth and final beast that the Antichrist will form and defeat Babylon the great, which obviously disqualifies the idea that the horn between the goats eyes symbolized Alexander the Great because he died and therefore cannot be part of the fourth beast that the Antichrist heads and Jesus destroys without human agency at His coming.
Dan 8:21 “The shaggy goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the large horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Dan 7:24 ‘As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings.
Dan7:7 “After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.
