Five Women Sue Texas Over Abortion Ban

[Belk]

So the headwaters of the Mississippi which starts from the continuing cycle of H2O life, are not then considered the Mississippi? What is it?

The Mississippi river is a given name. This is like asking "Is the child in Utero not Joe?". What it is not is a river. Hence the "headwaters of..." instead of "The River...".

 

[Ana the Ist]

This never happened.

Funny, I can recall it happening.

Yes, because you are denying fundamental rights.

What fundamental rights?

What mandate?

A federal mandate.

 

[Ana the Ist]

In the first trimester, it's not a baby.

How so?

 

[DaisyDay]

So the headwaters of the Mississippi which starts from the continuing cycle of H2O life, are not then considered the Mississippi? What is it?

Lake Itasca?

 

[timothyu]

What it is not is a river. Hence the "headwaters of..." instead of "The River...".

BUT the flow is ONE, all parts of the same. At no point is any part an alien body. Same with humans.

 

[Belk]

BUT the flow is ONE, all parts of the same. At no point is any part an alien body. Same with humans.

In time, yes. But an acorn is not an oak tree until it is grown.

 

[timothyu]

In time, yes. But an acorn is not an oak tree until it is grown.

But it is an oak tree. Everything exists in ever changing forms but are still one in nature. Humans do not start out of nothing, but are a continuous flow of human life, one person flowing from another made of the same everchanging substance designed to be human.

 

[Belk]

But it is an oak tree. Everything exists in ever changing forms but are still one in nature.

It is not an oak tree. That is why we call it an acorn.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

In the first trimester, it's not a baby.

Ah yes the "it's not a living person because I say it's not" argument.

classic.

My mom was told to have an abortion when she was 18 and pregnant and I'm glad she didn't because as a guy I can now advocate for the rights of not only the unborn baby but for men to have a say in what happens regarding abortion. It's life. I'll also be honest, if the response to this post is purely emotional or regurgitated arguments about rape etc etc there are things such as adoption, and then I'll also follow up with now so I don't have to respond later with, if one doesn't want the possibility of a child don't have sex. People want abortion most of the time because they don't want the responsibility of a child. There are rare cases where the mom's life is in danger, that takes a lot of prayer but in the older days people dying in child birth is a possibility and is very sad, something that is not worth talking casually about as an abortion argument. It also shouldn't justify taking someone else's life either.

I'm on the side of life on both sides and I believe medicine is capable and God first and foremost is capable of saving both.

I almost died when being born, I was 3 months early and weighed a pound, the very baby my mom was told to have an abortion, and I lived because my mom prayed for me. This topic is serious to me. It has to do with my life.

 

[timothyu]

In time, yes. But an acorn is not an oak tree until it is grown.

It is exactly the same substance of which all oak tress are made. You are probably not yet a decrepit senior but it is you soon enough. Flow knows no beginning or end if the process goes unhindered.

 

[Belk]

It is exactly the same substance of which all oak tress are made. You are probably not yet a decrepit senior but it is you soon enough. Flow knows no beginning or end if the process goes unhindered.

Nor am I dead though that will at some point happen. If you try to bury me you will be charged as we deal with the here and now in the law. Not some future possible state.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Nor am I dead though that will at some point happen. If you try to bury me you will be charged as we deal with the here and now in the law. Not some future possible state.

Well is the fetus not alive in the first trimester?

Seems to me it must be, if it's growing.

 

[timothyu]

Nor am I dead though that will at some point happen.

Only if your line as come to an end with no offspring but if there are siblings you carry on being part of the family branch.

If you try to bury me you will be charged as we deal with the here and now in the law. Not some future possible state.

Likewise if you were illegally aborted before the time came for burial.

 

[timothyu]

Seems to me it must be, if it's growing.

Of course.. an extension of a never ending growth of thousands of years.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Of course.. an extension of a never ending growth of thousands of years.

Call it what you like...I think all parties agree it isn't dead.

 

[Belk]

Only if your line as come to an end with no offspring but if there are siblings you carry on being part of the family branch.

No, I will die no matter if I have children or nephews.

Likewise if you were illegally aborted before the time came for burial.

That did not happen and if it had the outcome would not of affected me since I would not of existed.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

...That did not happen and if it had the outcome would not of affected me since I would not of existed.

Ah but you WOULD have existed, you'd go straight to Heaven never having been able to experience the life you were meant to live on Earth, and for your sake I'm glad you weren't aborted and I'm glad you are here on CF making comments

 

[Desk trauma]

Ah but you WOULD have existed, you'd go straight to Heaven never having been able to experience the life you were meant to live on Earth, and for your sake I'm glad you weren't aborted and I'm glad you are here on CF making comments

You’re glad they are not in eternal bliss?

 

[timothyu]

No, I will die no matter if I have children or nephews.

Right but you body which is shared by siblings carries on in other forms. All from the same plant.

 

[timothyu]

That did not happen and if it had the outcome would not of affected me since I would not of existed.

If you could go back would you try and prevent your birth?