Donald Trump indicted by Manhattan grand jury

[ralliann]

Just like you lefties can wait until he's found guilty of a crime before declaring him so?

It is the death of the rule of law. Marxists and communists love this. destroy the system. Democracy gone. Trump is just the means to achieve it.

 

[BPPLEE]

It didn't seem to be "lack of evidence" according to the article.

It seemed as if they realized that he was an agent of chaos, with thousands (as we saw on January 6) willing to take to the streets--or the NYC Courthouse--to wreak havoc.

Some have said Trump's prosecution would incite a "civil war."

Let's face it. We have 120 guns in this country for every 100 people, much of them concentrated in the South where I live (sigh). I know delusional people who believe they own these guns "in case the government oversteps its bounds." Some of them obviously have an urge for excitement. They crave the drama that drama king politicians promote. They are locked and loaded (some with alcohol and drugs) and ready to rumble.

Why they would choose to go to war to free a "suspect" who is a "person of interest" in investigations all over the country?

It's a mad, mad world.

Who has declared they are ready to go to war other than some loud mouthed zealots? They would easily be stopped by law enforcement. I own firearms but I’m under no illusions that I can stop the government from doing anything other than by voting.

 

[I's2C]

So you were on the grand jury and saw the evidence, then. After all, you're claiming there was no evidence, so surely you must have seen what the grand jury saw to make that claim.

Or you could just wait until the trial starts and evidence gets presented before making a claim of a nothingburger.

 

[I's2C]

Could ask the same thing from you? They been after this man and anyone associated with him for 7 years. 1st impeachment they said the russia, russia hoax was going to land him in prison; all charges was found to be unfounded by their hand picked Mueller and found out to be $1 million dollar paid scam by Hillary. 2nd impeachment over a phone call but they were totally surprised when Pres. Trump released the transcript where a perfect phone call; yet shifty schiff and his wanta be movie star still parroted non existing gangster style parody and laughed off the stage, a failed actor and script writer. Then it was taxes and Pres. Trump played them all the way, what ever happen to it? nothing when whats her face got it on the air and was flabbergasted because he paid so much in taxes, talk about a nothing burger. Time after time these people went after until now they just make up false accusations and try to pend him on A Stormy case that was dismissed in '20' when stormy signed an agreement and even she said it never happened. Now they have the weakest case of all with a porn star, and known political hack/lier where now the Democrat-never voted for Republican Dershowitz says any 1st year law student wouldn't even take this case and is the weakest case he has ever seen. Braggs should be and will be after his 10 minutes of fame will be held for Prosecutor mis-conduct. The Ga. case is even weaker, no one can be indicted for a phone call which is all it was, a perfectly legal phone call.

Alan Dershowitz Says He's Suing Michael Cohen Over Epstein Claims​

GOD does not like false accusers and again what they did will backfire; and now those who doesnt like him will join forces with him because of the runnaway DOJ and their corruption when they cover up for quid-qro-pro-joe who committed treason against this country. Globalist elite and the Dem party cant beat him in a legitimate fair election and they are so scared their corruption and raking of American tax dollars is coming to an end that they will burn the country down before they relinquish power. All this does absolutely nothing to stop Pres. Trump from winning a 3rd time. Thing is I dont think this country can make it another 2 years under this regime and the globalist elite ruining and burning this country down. I am prepared for the 2nd Beast coming hope those who have eyes to see see the writing on the wall!! The globalist are on pace to where they are about to take over the banking system where you cant buy, sell or trade without taking the mark. I read the back of the book and know what side I am on.

 

[BPPLEE]

You know, I look at DeSantis, and I disagree with a lot of his politics. I wouldn't vote for him for president. But I don't dislike DeSantis himself. He seems like a decent enough fellow.

I like Haley. I'd vote for her for president.

But I do dislike Trump. I don't dislike him for his politics at all. I dislike Trump for his character. I think he's a bad influence on the country in general and the Republican Party in particular.

Widespread hatred of an individual is usually well-earned.

Is the hatred @A2SG alleges for Obama well earned? I have also grown tired of Trump’s remarks and behavior but I don’t hate him. I support much of what he did. I don’t support his behavior after the election though

 

[I's2C]

Could ask the same thing from you? They been after this man and anyone associated with him for 7 years. 1st impeachment they said the russia, russia hoax was going to land him in prison; all charges was found to be unfounded by their hand picked Mueller and found out to be $1 million dollar paid scam by Hillary. 2nd impeachment over a phone call but they were totally surprised when Pres. Trump released the transcript where a perfect phone call; yet shifty schiff and his wanta be movie star still parroted non existing gangster style parody and laughed off the stage, a failed actor and script writer. Then it was taxes and Pres. Trump played them all the way, what ever happen to it? nothing when whats her face got it on the air and was flabbergasted because he paid so much in taxes, talk about a nothing burger. Time after time these people went after until now they just make up false accusations and try to pend him on A Stormy case that was dismissed in '20' when stormy signed an agreement and even she said it never happened. Now they have the weakest case of all with a inappropriate content star, and known political hack/lier where now the Democrat-never voted for Republican Dershowitz says any 1st year law student wouldn't even take this case and is the weakest case he has ever seen. Braggs should be and will be after his 10 minutes of fame will be held for Prosecutor mis-conduct. The Ga. case is even weaker, no one can be indicted for a phone call which is all it was, a perfectly legal phone call.

Alan Dershowitz Says He's Suing Michael Cohen Over Epstein Claims​

GOD does not like false accusers and again what they did will backfire; and now those who doesnt like him will join forces with him because of the runnaway DOJ and their corruption when they cover up for quid-qro-pro-joe who committed treason against this country. Globalist elite and the Dem party cant beat him in a legitimate fair election and they are so scared their corruption and raking of American tax dollars is coming to an end that they will burn the country down before they relinquish power. All this does absolutely nothing to stop Pres. Trump from winning a 3rd time. Thing is I dont think this country can make it another 2 years under this regime and the globalist elite ruining and burning this country down. I am prepared for the 2nd Beast coming hope those who have eyes to see see the writing on the wall!! The globalist are on pace to where they are about to take over the banking system where you cant buy, sell or trade without taking the mark. I read the back of the book and know what side I am on.

 

[ralliann]

Is the hatred @A2SG alleges for Obama well earned? I have also grown tired of Trump’s remarks and behavior but I don’t hate him. I support much of what he did. I don’t support his behavior after the election though

What behavior? All we should be concerned about at this point is his behavior as a president to effect our best. That he did.

 

[I's2C]

Is the hatred @A2SG alleges for Obama well earned? I have also grown tired of Trump’s remarks and behavior but I don’t hate him. I support much of what he did. I don’t support his behavior after the election though

That may be but look what they have put him through for 7 years. I ask anyone and might even add anyone else would have to give into the deep state. Pres. Trump has the money to stand up against their corruption, anyone else would of gave up. He speaks truth and I have seen Dems cause race wars, riots, bail criminals out of the summer of love riots costing many lives, minority small businesses that never recovered, They still have control of portland. The lawlessness by people on the left who never get arrested but anyone on the right sneezes wrong are thrown in jail. The 2 tier justice is out of control and people on the left think they are safe they are not. All dictatorship put everyone under them in prison, throughout history. If people are so blind to what is happening and just stand by and watch it will have to answer to GOD one day. GOD help them. I say come LORD come!!

 

[BPPLEE]

What behavior? All we should be concerned about at this point is his behavior as a president to effect our best. That he did.

I have doubts about whether he could win the general election and don’t feel that it would be in the best interest of Republicans to nominate him. I voted for him, I supported him, but at this point I don’t feel that he is the best choice.

 

[Yttrium]

Is the hatred @A2SG alleges for Obama well earned? I have also grown tired of Trump’s remarks and behavior but I don’t hate him. I support much of what he did. I don’t support his behavior after the election though

Well, I did say usually, not always. But Obama is pretty liberal (on the US scale), and he did start things off by driving the deficit way up (to deal with the bank crisis) and imposing new regulations on the financial sector. Considering the Tea Party was still popular at the time, breaking the budget so bad was bound to earn him a lot of angry looks.

 

[ralliann]

I have doubts about whether he could win the general election and don’t feel that it would be in the best interest of Republicans to nominate him.

I thought the same way until his polls rose. There is no reson in my opinion to judge him on his personal behavior.

I voted for him, I supported him, but at this point I don’t feel that he is the best choice.

If it is based upon support (polls) i tend to agree. What bothers me is his policies for this country were fantastic. And what the libs are doing to this country is awful. If Trump is judged as bad as a personality, without consideration to what we sorely need this country does not see how far libs have taken us, and i fear we are done for, no matter who gets in

 

[mark46]

This case is a waste time and effort. Trump is likely to be convicted on 7 year old misdemeanor charges. This case has been dropped twice, and has been moved forward because of campaign promises.

However, the reality is that the case is a diversion from the other 3 cases, which are much more a threat to Trump.
1) GA case
2) DC case of taking documents to FL.
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and the most serious set of cases:
3) DC case(s) associated with January 6th,

 

[RocksInMyHead]

There is no reson in my opinion to judge him on his personal behavior.

Surely there is a point at which personal behavior becomes relevant though. For example, would you vote for someone credibly accused of murder, so long as you liked their policies? Someone convicted of rape?

And can you truly not see the hypocrisy of accusing "the libs" of promoting immorality while ignoring the immorality of the guy you support? There are plenty of other people in the Republican camp with similar policy positions to Trump but without the baggage.

 

[durangodawood]

The old conservative notion of "character counts" is dead and buried, I see.

 

[ralliann]

Surely there is a point at which personal behavior becomes relevant though. For example, would you vote for someone credibly accused of murder, so long as you liked their policies? Someone convicted of rape?

And can you truly not see the hypocrisy of accusing "the libs" of promoting immorality while ignoring the immorality of the guy you support? There are plenty of other people in the Republican camp with similar policy positions to Trump but without the baggage.

Here is the deal. They refused to uphold the law concerning these things with democrats. We cannot trust the FBI, ETC. So we cannot know who is guilty of what. We are beyond personal behavior because we cannot know in our environment. The Marxists and communist love this environment it helps them greatly to remake our country into what they want. So for me, his personality concerning the things you mention cannot be known. Thus it is on superficial things he is being judged.

 

[JosephZ]

This case is a waste time and effort. Trump is likely to be convicted on 7 year old misdemeanor charges.

It's being reported that he's facing at least one felony count in Manhattan. It's a bit premature to say it's a waste of time without knowing what the charges are yet.

 

[BPPLEE]

The old conservative notion of "character counts" is dead and buried, I see.

It’s about time they caught up with the left

 

[RocksInMyHead]

So for me, his personality concerning the things you mention cannot be known. Thus it is on superficial things he is being judged.

I was not referring to the current indictments, or even to legal complaints against him since he entered the political stage. There are plenty of objectionable, immoral things that Trump has said and done in public - on camera, in front of witnesses - as well as legal cases that long pre-date his political career. His character has been on display for 40+ years. He's been a political figure for less than 10.

 

[ralliann]

I was not referring to the current indictments, or even to legal complaints against him since he entered the political stage. There are plenty of objectionable, immoral things that Trump has said and done in public - on camera, in front of witnesses - as well as legal cases that long pre-date his political career.

Yeah he was not a politician, and he was a democrat to boot. While those in politics did it behind camera.

His character has been on display for 40+ years. He's been a political figure for less than 10.

And 30= of those years were as a democrat, a non political figure. Go ahead and think your political "candidates" are more moral. And accept only one side is beneath the law.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Which “Feds” looked at the case and decided that there was not enough evidence?

Bill Barr?