My Dental Challenge

[AV1611VET]

How do you know that he was created looking like a twenty year old? What’s wrong with forty year old?

 

[Mr Laurier]

Israel became a nation again.

Given that it had never been a nation before.
And given that the Catastrophe was a handover of Palestine, without the consent of the native Palestinian people...

 

[AV1611VET]

Given that it had never been a nation before.

Then I'd say that makes it a more potent prophecy, wouldn't you?

And given that the Catastrophe was a handover of Palestine, without the consent of the native Palestinian people...

Palestine (the Philistines in the Bible) had no claim to that territory.

God gave it to Abraham via the Abrahamic Covenant.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Nope -- none of that.When you grade tests, do you add to a person's answer, then claim his answer is wrong?

Adding "scarring and a microbiome developed over the course of many years" to an adult man who didn't exist an hour ago, then calling it "omphalos, deception, deceit or any other similar word you like" is disrespecting the OP.

Oh, I get it. You aren't interested in facts and faults with your OP, you just want to have a gotcha.

Your challenge has been completed, and it failed.

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh, I get it. You aren't interested in facts and faults with your OP, you just want to have a gotcha.

Your challenge has been completed, and it failed.

Kinda like someone baking a cherry pie and asking if it tastes good, and someone comes along and adds mushrooms to the pie, then claims it doesn't taste good.

That's what you tried at first.

When that didn't work, you're now claiming that the cherry pie was made to taste good, and therefore is a culinary failure.

Is that about the size of it?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Kinda like someone baking a cherry pie and asking if it tastes good, and someone comes along and adds mushrooms to the pie, then claims it doesn't taste good.

That's what you tried at first.

When that didn't work, you're now claiming that the cherry pie was made to taste good, and therefore is a culinary failure.

Is that about the size of it?

It's more like you made a cherry pie, then someone came along and pointed out you forgot the sugar and it didn't taste good. When you still insisted the pie was fine they also pointed out you missed the cornstarch, so the filling didn't hold together.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's more like you made a cherry pie, then someone came along and pointed out you forgot the sugar and it didn't taste good. When you still insisted the pie was fine they also pointed out you missed the cornstarch, so the filling didn't hold together.

Got it.

First: Add mushrooms, claim it tastes bad.

Second: Made to taste good, therefore a culinary failure.

Third: Subtract sugar & cornstarch, it doesn't taste good.

Do you see why I call these "challenges" now?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Got it.

First: Add mushrooms, claim it tastes bad.

Pointing out you forgot sugar is not adding mushrooms. The funny taste comes from your omission, not from someone else's addition.

Second: Made to taste good, therefore a culinary failure.

Claimed to taste good, not made to taste good.

Third: Subtract sugar & cornstarch, it doesn't taste good.

Pointing out, again, that you've missed some key ingredients.

Do you see why I call these "challenges" now?

Yep. Because you struggle in the kitchen.

 

[Larniavc]

You are a dentist, and Adam comes in for a checkup, looking like he did the day he was created from the dust of the ground.

He lists his age as 20 years old, says he has never eaten yet, and you examine him.

Despite being 20 years old, you find no tooth decay whatsoever.

No stains, pits, plaque, chips, cavities, or gum disease.

How would you describe this?

Hypothetical.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Does he have insurance? Or paying by credit card?

Since no work needs to be done, does the dentist charge him anyway?

Why does the OP assumes he’s never eaten?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Palestine (the Philistines in the Bible) had no claim to that territory.

Philistia and Palestine do apparently have the same name source, but they are not the same thing.

Philistia was a group of 5 cities on the south Canaan shoreline including Ashkelon and Gaza, possibly settled by the "Sea Peoples" mentioned by the Egyptians at the time of the late Bronze Age collapse.

Palestine is just the name for the British occupied portion of the southern Levant west of the Jordan after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Attempts to divide it into Jewish and Arab/Muslim sections were met with failure.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why does the OP assumes he’s never eaten?

The patient is supposed to be Adam, on the day God created him.

(He goes straight to the dentist's office. )

 

[Bungle_Bear]

The patient is supposed to be Adam, on the day God created him.

(He goes straight to the dentist's office. )

Who is the dentist? Were they created before or after Adam? How old are they? Did they have a genuine education or a fake one implanted by God? Do they have a dental nurse helping? Is there a receptionist? Do they have modern dental tools, or just sticks and rocks?

It's becoming clearer why you call them "challenges", isn't it?

 

[AV1611VET]

It's becoming clearer why you call them "challenges", isn't it?

Affirmative.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Then I'd say that makes it a more potent prophecy, wouldn't you?

Nope.

Palestine (the Philistines in the Bible) had no claim to that territory.

The bible is the mythology of three religions
The native Palestinians have the only legitimate claim to the land their ancestors have lived in for thousands of years.

God gave it to Abraham via the Abrahamic Covenant.

Nope. Mythology does NOT trump reality.
England and France gave it to themselves, and then to the World Zionist Congress.
But not until AFTER they promised to respect the right of the native Palestinian people to be free. A promise they broke before the ink was dry on the treaty.

 

[doubtingmerle]

The patient is supposed to be Adam, on the day God created him.

(He goes straight to the dentist's office. )

Then he was alive for zero days at that point.

Anything that has existed for zero days is zero days old. That is what words mean.

Even if Adam had all the appearance of someone that was twenty years old, he is still zero days old.

 

[AV1611VET]

Then he was alive for zero days at that point.

Yup.

Anything that has existed for zero days is zero days old.

Existentially, yes.

That is what words mean.

In the case of Adam, we need to understand two key words: existential and physical.

And it would take a miracle of God to separate the two and give them different connotations.

Adam would be one day old existentially; but 20 or 30 years old physically.

And I might add that that ONLY APPLIES to Adam & Eve.

No other human person on the earth has that distinction.

Their existence was a one-time miracle of creation.

Even if Adam had all the appearance of someone that was twenty years old, he is still zero days old.

Physically, yes.

 

[d taylor]

Yup.



Existentially, yes.



In the case of Adam, we need to understand two key words: existential and physical.

And it would take a miracle of God to separate the two and give them different connotations.

Adam would be one day old existentially; but 20 or 30 years old physically.

And I might add that that ONLY APPLIES to Adam & Eve.

No other human person on the earth has that distinction.

Their existence was a one-time miracle of creation.



Physically, yes.

No, not physically, His physical body is one day old. His physical body may look to be 30 years old though.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, not physically, His physical body is one day old. His physical body may look to be 30 years old though.

I reopened the poll so more people can vote.

 

[doubtingmerle]

Adam would be one day old existentially; but 20 or 30 years old physically.

To me the words "Adam was physically 20 years old" means "Adam existed physically for 20 years at that point." You apparently have a different meaning for those words. What do the words "Adam was physically 20 years old" mean to you? Does it mean his body--which had exited for one day--appeared to be that of a 20 year old person (minus the naval)? Or does it mean something else?