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2022 is America's deadliest year for mass shootings.

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705 mass shootings for 2022 beating all previous records.

The total of 43781 deaths (the equivalent of 9/11 more than fourteen times) and 38000+ injuries. And the year isn't over.


 

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705 mass shootings for 2022 beating all previous records.

The total of 43781 deaths (the equivalent of 9/11 more than fourteen times) and 38000+ injuries. And the year isn't over.


Defund the police, liberal prosecuters who do not protect the public, and a dysfunctional mental health system.
 
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705 mass shootings for 2022 beating all previous records.

The total of 43781 deaths (the equivalent of 9/11 more than fourteen times) and 38000+ injuries. And the year isn't over.



Gang violence accounts for most US mass shootings. And it's hard to tell groups of low income people to cut it out with the gangs. They don't seem to want to listen.

...I don't know if it's because there's not enough opportunities to gain wealth in the USA..? Or if that's just the style of life that's preferred by some.
 
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705 mass shootings for 2022 beating all previous records.

The total of 43781 deaths (the equivalent of 9/11 more than fourteen times) and 38000+ injuries. And the year isn't over.


Somebody missed Thou Shall Not Kill day at Sunday school.
 
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Somebody missed Thou Shall Not Kill day at Sunday school.
Scandinavian and other European countries are much less religious than the USA and yet have much less mass shootings.
It seems that your post is counterfactual.
 
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All I know, is that whatever we make illegal here in the US..? The cartels will create a black market for.
You guys are bad at abiding by the law?

...So it's unstoppable, just like drugs.
To learn from previous failures doesnt mean not to try. It means to evaluate why it didn't work, and eliminate the weak points.
 
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Defund the police, liberal prosecuters who do not protect the public, and a dysfunctional mental health system.
and guns. Its too late to talk about prosecution once a school kid has a bullet in its brain - prosecute to as fully as you like and the family will still have lost their child while gun companies continue to sell more lethal weapons.

And removing the police? Seriously - 99.9% of people would think that insane. What possible evidence do you have to support that prospect being a good idea.
 
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All I know, is that whatever we make illegal here in the US..? The cartels will create a black market for.

...So it's unstoppable, just like drugs.
But you legislate against the import, sale and usage of drugs. Is it your argument that just like guns, you should not legislate on drug control? No of course not - you would be so insane to say such a thing......so....legislate to control guns.
 
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and guns. Its too late to talk about prosecution once a school kid has a bullet in its brain - prosecute to as fully as you like and the family will still have lost their child while gun companies continue to sell more lethal weapons.

And removing the police? Seriously - 99.9% of people would think that insane. What possible evidence do you have to support that prospect being a good idea.
"Defund" is an unfortunate term in that it causes confusion. When people began using it (in my hearing, anyway) a couple of years back, I, too, thought it meant getting rid of the police. What it is is a reduction in funding with the balance going to other services. E.g., instead of sending the police to the house of someone suicidal, send someone trained for that situation ... and that requires funding.

HTH
 
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There is always next year. Schools are out at the moment so we are at a dis advantage for the next week or so.
Always with the excuses.
 
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Thats completely untrue. I suggest you go to the links I provided.
It's not completely untrue. Just depends on how you define "mass shooting". The definition used by the Gun Violence Archive in your second link (any shooting in which 4 or more people are killed or wounded, not including the shooter) gets you the 705 mass shootings, and most of those are gang-related.

In your first link, they say there have only been 35 mass shootings - I believe the definition that that article is using is 4 or more killed, which does narrow things down quite a bit. I don't know if the motivation is clear for all of those shootings, but yes, a significant number of them could be classified as hate crimes. However, the article doesn't give those numbers - it only talks about racial and sexuality-based motivations in relation to killings in 2020
 
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Thats completely untrue. I suggest you go to the links I provided.
I can only assume according to the articles you provided, that of the 705 mass shootings, only 35 of them are hate based, and 670 are Gang violence, such as drive-by shootings, etc.
 
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You guys are bad at abiding by the law?


To learn from previous failures doesnt mean not to try. It means to evaluate why it didn't work, and eliminate the weak points.
Well, we tried to build a wall at the southern border. That's where the drugs come from, and that's obviously where guns would come in, if they were made illegal.

...But we can't build a wall, because it's racist.

There's no way to sever our country from international crime, without being called racists, unless you can help us find a solution.
 
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Well, we tried to build a wall at the southern border. That's where the drugs come from, and that's obviously where guns would come in, if they were made illegal.

...But we can't build a wall, because it's racist.

There's no way to sever our country from international crime, without being called racists, unless you can help us find a solution.
It's been pretty well-established that the vast, VAST majority of drugs coming through the southern border are coming through at official checkpoints. Border Patrol does not search every vehicle, and smugglers are forever finding new ways to conceal contraband. Very few of the millions of migrants apprehended between border crossing are carrying drugs, and they cannot carry all that much to begin with. A wall would do very little to slow down drug smuggling, and with guns being significantly heavier and bulkier than drugs, it would do even less to slow down any hypothetical arms smuggling.
 
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But you legislate against the import, sale and usage of drugs. Is it your argument that just like guns, you should not legislate on drug control? No of course not - you would be so insane to say such a thing......so....legislate to control guns.
But let's peer into the future first, at what possible scenarios might come in doing so, to make sure it's safe:

What If

What if we legislate against guns, so that all citizens have no guns, but then, gang members smuggle in guns anyway, along with the drugs. Then, in that case, we would have armed gangs controlling the streets, and we would have gangs killing random people (revenge killings) just like the cartels do in Central and South America everytime the police make a "bust".

Essentially, we might be creating an even worse problem, where everyone is afraid of the armed gang members, with no way to stop them from running the streets and taking control of entire communities.

As it stands currently, gangs cannot control entire communities, because they might get shot at by an armed random citizen, considering that the citizens who are not gang affiliated, are currently armed equally with gangs. Tipping that balance might be a mistake, unless there's some way of accomplishing it that I'm not seeing.
 

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But let's peer into the future first, at what possible scenarios might come in doing so, to make sure it's safe:

What If

What if we legislate against guns, so that all citizens have no guns, but then, gang members smuggle in guns anyway, along with the drugs. Then, in that case, we would have armed gangs controlling the streets, and we would have gangs killing random people (revenge killings) just like the cartels do in Central and South America everytime the police make a "bust".

Essentially, we might be creating an even worse problem, where everyone is afraid of the armed gang members, with no way to stop them from running the streets and taking control of entire communities.

As it stands currently, gangs cannot control entire communities, because they might get shot at by an armed random citizen, considering that the citizens who are not gang affiliated, are currently armed equally with gangs. Tipping that balance might be a mistake, unless there's some way of accomplishing it that I'm not seeing.
And where is law enforcement in this hypothetical scenario? I really don't think that the only reason why gangs don't take control of entire communities is because they fear armed citizens.
 
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