Can people who disagree on abortion stop attacking each other?

[YahuahSaves]

It’s relevant to the claim that they had the same level of understanding as we do.

They obviously did, because science has only just recently proven the prior knowledge.

 

[Desk trauma]

i intend to vote. do you suggest i vote for abortion or against it?

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that encouraging others to vote in favor of abortion being legal would run afoul of the no promoting abortion rule so I am not going to suggest that.

On a side note thus far when the issue has been put to a direct vote it has anti-abortion proposals have been soundly defeated even in red states.

 

[Desk trauma]

They obviously did, because science has only just recently proven the prior knowledge.

Their knowledge level was the same as ours so I guess they let all those women die from complications in pregnancy' and birth, that they would understand because their knowledge level was the same as ours, because reasons?

 

[YahuahSaves]

Their knowledge level was the same as ours so I guess they let all those women die from complications in pregnancy' and birth, that they would understand because their knowledge level was the same as ours, because reasons?

I'm talking biblical knowledge versus scientific knowledge (which is also medical knowledge) also, we're arguing the validity of human life here, not advancements in technology.

 

[Desk trauma]

I'm talking biblical knowledge versus scientific knowledge (which is also medical knowledge) also, we're arguing the validity of human life here, not advancements in technology.

Apparently it hasn't advanced as people thousands of years about had the same level of knowledge as we do now and just waiting to establish modern medical practices for reasons.

 

[YahuahSaves]

Apparently it hasn't advanced as people thousands of years about had the same level of knowledge as we do now and just waiting to establish modern medical practices for reasons.

Even the so-called "moral" argument given by pro-choicers isn't backed up by data. Looks like the science actually backs up pro-life.


"Though abortion advocates frequently assert the safety of the abortion procedure and downplay the risks, the physiological and psychological complications are documented and numerous. Immediate health risks include uterine perforation, cervical lacerations, pelvic inflammatory disease, endometritis, and death. Abortion also puts a woman’s future pregnancies in jeopardy as it places her at elevated risk for pre-term delivery, placenta previa, and ectopic pregnancy."

From: New Research Shows Abortion Poses Higher Risk of Death than Giving Birth

 

[Desk trauma]

Even the so-called "moral" argument given by pro-choicers isn't backed up by data. Looks like the science actually backs up pro-life.


"Though abortion advocates frequently assert the safety of the abortion procedure and downplay the risks, the physiological and psychological complications are documented and numerous. Immediate health risks include uterine perforation, cervical lacerations, pelvic inflammatory disease, endometritis, and death. Abortion also puts a woman’s future pregnancies in jeopardy as it places her at elevated risk for pre-term delivery, placenta previa, and ectopic pregnancy."

From: New Research Shows Abortion Poses Higher Risk of Death than Giving Birth

Not sure why you quoted me to post that, it has no relation to anything I said.

 

[comana]

Even the so-called "moral" argument given by pro-choicers isn't backed up by data. Looks like the science actually backs up pro-life.


"Though abortion advocates frequently assert the safety of the abortion procedure and downplay the risks, the physiological and psychological complications are documented and numerous. Immediate health risks include uterine perforation, cervical lacerations, pelvic inflammatory disease, endometritis, and death. Abortion also puts a woman’s future pregnancies in jeopardy as it places her at elevated risk for pre-term delivery, placenta previa, and ectopic pregnancy."

From: New Research Shows Abortion Poses Higher Risk of Death than Giving Birth

I don’t trust pro-life sources as they usually misrepresent the data. Also most abortions are medical, prior to 8 weeks and surgical abortion is needed for the much smaller percentage that happen after after the first trimester.

 

[YahuahSaves]

Their knowledge level was the same as ours so I guess they let all those women die from complications in pregnancy' and birth,

You still have nothing to back up your claim.

From: What Percentage of Abortions Are Medically Necessary?

"The short answer to this question is “zero.”

Medical science has progressed to the point where an abortion is never necessary to preserve the life or the health of the mother. This has been true for more than half a century.

Abortions performed to preserve the life or the health of the mother are so rare that they do not register statistically, according to Alan Guttmacher of Planned Parenthood, who did more to promote and spread abortion on demand throughout the world than any other individual. In 1967 he commented, “Today it is possible for almost any patient to be brought through pregnancy alive, unless she suffers from a fatal disease such as cancer or leukemia, and if so, abortion would be unlikely to prolong, much less save the life.”

 

[YahuahSaves]

Not sure why you quoted me to post that, it has no relation to anything I said.

See post #636

 

[YahuahSaves]

I don’t trust pro-life sources as they usually misrepresent the data. Also most abortions are medical, prior to 8 weeks and surgical abortion is needed for the much smaller percentage that happen after after the first trimester.

Back up your claims then.

 

[Desk trauma]

See post #636

Also unrelated to the claim that people thousands of years ago had the same level of knowledge we have now.

 

[comana]

Back up your claims then.

I don’t have the time or desire to fact check your source.

 

[Lost Witness]

Also unrelated to the claim that people thousands of years ago had the same level of knowledge we have now.

basic survival 2000yrs ago took more know how than most people have lol

 

[YahuahSaves]

Also unrelated to the claim that people thousands of years ago had the same level of knowledge we have now.

Just avoiding the subject now? OK

 

[YahuahSaves]

I don’t have the time or desire to fact check your source.

Lol typical answer from someone who has an opinion but knows they can't back up their claim with data.

 

[Desk trauma]

Just avoiding the subject now? OK

Nope.

 

[Friedrich Rubinstein]

No. Especially when it's an embryo and not a fetus.

Both an embryo and a fetus are stages of development of a human being. You didn't evolve from an embryo, you once were an embryo.

If you don't think that a human life is valuable that is up to you, but don't be surprised that other people think nobody should willfully end the life of an innocent human being without their consent.

 

[Desk trauma]

basic survival 2000yrs ago took more know how than most people have lol

Unhun.

 

[Lost Witness]

Unhun.

curious as to why you feel so confident you could survive 2000yrs ago?