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Different kinds of healing?

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Can you show from Scripture that Paul the Apostle was healing folks everyday please...
First off, a ministry of the gifts of healings in the body of Christ has no limitations placed upon how much GOD can use that ministry to heal.

You're asking me to prove by scripture that GOD can actually heal that much,........ it would seem it is dependent upon the faith of the Son of GOD given to that individual that GOD decides to use that way.

I think your question/demand of me is unjust.

Second, Jesus is our example in all things. The Apostles only point to Jesus, not themselves.
 
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1. There is no place in scripture saying the Paul nor Jesus healed every single day. Only that God is willing...
2. Revivals are wonderful times. But even John G. Lake shared the times healing did not happen.
3. There are a number of places in the Gospels where healing did not happen. Not that God wasn't willing

  1. Luke 5:17 - The power of the Lord was present to heal them - yet none of them were healed, just the man lowered through the ceiling.
  2. John 5 - The lame man at the Pool of Bethsaida was the only many in approximately 2,000 people there that got healed.
  3. Mark 6 - Jesus could not do no mighty work - not would not - could not.
There are others you can find them.

thank you HL...
 
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Let's get back to the Op's topic. I'm just going to add more folks on my ignore list if they just wanna argue with me all the time. I'm not going to entertain their lack of faith any more and their desire to pigeonhole everyone else into their same insufficiency.


Here is the section of Mark that the OP mentioned,...

Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned.
Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe: in my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Mar 16:18 they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall in no wise hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Mar 16:19 So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken unto them, was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.
Mar 16:20 And they went forth, and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word by the signs that followed. Amen.

I don't see any difference in the action listed here or the mention of it being a sign gift in Corinthians. There are differences listed in scripture on how healing can be received from GOD, but a lot of times I personally believe it involves the use of the gifts of healings somehow.
 
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This is funny.

I'm suppose to use scripture to prove how much GOD is capable of healing and how frequent.

Do we even know that?

Does scripture actually state "only this much healing and no more." ?!?!?!

That is not the issue...

You are critical of those not healing all the time as if the are deficient in faith - this is a nonsense.

Faith comes from Hearing the Word of Christ and He directs a variety of activities of which healing is one of many.
 
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Jesus is our example in all things. The Apostles only point to Jesus, not themselves.

1 Cor 4:
14 I do not write these things to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. 15 For if you were to have countless tutors in Christ, yet you would not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. 16 Therefore I urge you, be imitators of me. 17 For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, who is my beloved and faithful child in the Lord, and he will remind you of my ways which are in Christ, just as I teach everywhere in every church.
 
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1. There is no place in scripture saying the Paul nor Jesus healed every single day. Only that God is willing...
2. Revivals are wonderful times. But even John G. Lake shared the times healing did not happen.
3. There are a number of places in the Gospels where healing did not happen. Not that God wasn't willing

  1. Luke 5:17 - The power of the Lord was present to heal them - yet none of them were healed, just the man lowered through the ceiling.
  2. John 5 - The lame man at the Pool of Bethsaida was the only many in approximately 2,000 people there that got healed.
  3. Mark 6 - Jesus could not do no mighty work - not would not - could not.
There are others you can find them.
One thing that bothers me is that I don't see that it says that no one else was healed in Luke 5. It seems that Luke was focusing on the faith of those who opened the roof to get their friend to Jesus. Maybe he was the only one, but I don't see it. We can see that addressed when Jesus wanted to minister in Galilee and could only heal a few, and nothing else, so your point is valid, but I'm not sure this is an example.
 
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One thing that bothers me is that I don't see that it says that no one else was healed in Luke 5. It seems that Luke was focusing on the faith of those who opened the roof to get their friend to Jesus. Maybe he was the only one, but I don't see it. We can see that addressed when Jesus wanted to minister in Galilee and could only heal a few, and nothing else, so your point is valid, but I'm not sure this is an example.
Sure it is - any time there was a mass healing, it is noted in the Scriptures. The ONLY interaction we see from 'them' is their stating they had seen strange things. Not one mention of 'them' being healed.

Luke 5:17 Now it happened on a certain day, as He was teaching, that there were Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting by, who had come out of every town of Galilee, Judea, and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was present to heal them.​
Can't get any plainer than that -

Luke 5:25 Immediately he rose up before them, took up what he had been lying on, and departed to his own house, glorifying God. 26 And they were all amazed, and they glorified God and were filled with fear, saying, “We have seen strange things today!”
 
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Sure it is - any time there was a mass healing, it is noted in the Scriptures. The ONLY interaction we see from 'them' is their stating they had seen strange things. Not one mention of 'them' being healed.

Luke 5:17 Now it happened on a certain day, as He was teaching, that there were Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting by, who had come out of every town of Galilee, Judea, and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was present to heal them.​
Can't get any plainer than that -

Luke 5:25 Immediately he rose up before them, took up what he had been lying on, and departed to his own house, glorifying God. 26 And they were all amazed, and they glorified God and were filled with fear, saying, “We have seen strange things today!”
Still don't see where it says no one else was healed. I do see that "strange things," is plural. Definitely don't want to beat a dead horse, especially over a minor interpretational difference, and when your point is definite in another place in scripture.
 
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Still don't see where it says no one else was healed. I do see that "strange things," is plural. Definitely don't want to beat a dead horse, especially over a minor interpretational difference, and when your point is definite in another place in scripture.
Let me flip the horse over for one last effort.

Luke - a Greek writes this literal account.

Luke 5:17 Now it happened on a certain day, as He was teaching, that there were Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting by, who had come out of every town of Galilee, Judea, and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was present to heal them. 18 Then behold, men brought on a bed a man who was paralyzed, whom they sought to bring in and lay before Him. 19 And when they could not find how they might bring him in, because of the crowd, they went up on the housetop and let him down with his bed through the tiling into the midst before Jesus.​
20 When He saw their faith, He said to him, “Man, your sins are forgiven you.”​
21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”​
22 But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, He answered and said to them, “Why are you reasoning in your hearts? 23 Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise up and walk’? 24 But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”—He said to the man who was paralyzed, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.”​
25 Immediately he rose up before them, took up what he had been lying on, and departed to his own house, glorifying God. 26 And they were all amazed, and they glorified God and were filled with fear, saying, “We have seen strange things today!”
The whole interaction was with 'them'. Luke who wrote literally mentions this whole interaction and you believe Luke decided to not mention the whole purpose of God's power being shown? You have an interesting viewpoint.
 
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Act 10:38
38 even Jesus of Nazareth, how that God anointed him with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
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Act 10:38
38 even Jesus of Nazareth, how that God anointed him with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Somehow we must balance the meaning of this verse with the fact that He could only do what He saw the Father doing.
 
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Act 10:38
38 even Jesus of Nazareth, how that God anointed him with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Interesting.
 
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Act 10:38
38 even Jesus of Nazareth, how that God anointed him with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
How do you explain the times people were not healed?
 
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How do you explain the times people were not healed?
Mark 6:5-6
5. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
6. And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
 
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Mark 6:5-6
5. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
6. And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
Right. he could not, not would not.
 
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Right. he could not, not would not.

The problem with using that scripture as a proof text to form a doctrine that "God cannot heal you if you do not believe" is twofold
  1. That verse did say that some healing took place even if there was unbelief.
  2. There were other occasions where Jesus could heal even those who were not seeking healing, i.e the high priest's servant in Luke 22:50-51.
 
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The problem with using that scripture as a proof text to form a doctrine that "God cannot heal you if you do not believe" is twofold
  1. That verse did say that some healing took place even if there was unbelief.
  2. There were other occasions where Jesus could heal even those who were not seeking healing, i.e the high priest's servant in Luke 22:50-51.

Yep... if He saw the father doing it - He could do it...
 
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The problem with using that scripture as a proof text to form a doctrine that "God cannot heal you if you do not believe" is twofold
  1. That verse did say that some healing took place even if there was unbelief.
  2. There were other occasions where Jesus could heal even those who were not seeking healing, i.e the high priest's servant in Luke 22:50-51.
That is why I am doing no such thing.

I merely pointing out what scripture clearly states.
 
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