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How to deal with “Catholic” Women “Priests”

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NOTE TO THE READER: Authorization is given to translate this blog into German, Spanish, and any other language needed. The author requests human translations, rather than computer translations, and a link back to the original English source.

This may seem like a no-brainer to a lot of faithful Catholics, but I think it’s worth mentioning. Women cannot be Catholic priests. This was explained by Pope Saint John Paul II in his 1994 Apostolic Letter entitled Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, wherein he stated in no uncertain terms…

Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church’s divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.
Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, 4
That’s it. The case is closed. The Church has no authority, whatsoever, to ordain women to the priesthood. Jesus did not grant this authority to his apostles, and they could not transfer to the bishops an authority that they themselves did not receive. The bottom line is this. If there was ever a woman worthy of apostolic ordination in the Church, it would have been the Blessed Virgin Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ. Yet, Jesus did not ordain her. He didn’t make her an apostle. He didn’t make her a bishop. Nor did he make her a priest. He didn’t even make her a deacon. He left her as part of the laity, non-ordained to any office in the Church. It is absurd to suggest that some other woman would be worthy to be ordained, when not even the Blessed Virgin Mary was ordained. There were plenty of women in the early Church who could be ordained if that’s what Christ wanted. The Blessed Virgin Mary would be the first among them. Yet Christ chose not to call a single woman to his inner circle of apostolic authority. He simply never ordained a woman at all, and he never gave his apostles the authority to do it either. Bishops do not, and cannot, have an authority that the apostles never had.

Any attempted “ordination” of a woman is merely a simulation of Live Action Role Playing(LARPing) that, if to be taken seriously, insinuates the one doing the “ordination” has MORE authority than what Jesus Christ granted to his apostles. In other words, the one doing the “ordination” is claiming to have an authority greater than any bishop or the pope himself. Those women being “ordained” are publicly professing that the one doing their “ordination” has more authority than the pope. Those in attendance of said “ordination” are contributing (whether knowingly or unknowingly) to this profession of superior authority. On the face of it, it’s a schismatic act, which is why it incurs an automatic excommunication under canon law.

Pope Francis, echoing the Saintly letter of John Paul II, is clearly against the ordination of women. In the past, bishops would have to make a solemn decree of excommunication whenever one of these female “ordination” simulations took place. Now, such formalities are no longer necessary under canon law. The excommunication is instantaneous and automatic. I suspect this change in canon law is in anticipation of something very big in the near future. This change to canon law was approved by Pope Francis, quite recently, in response to efforts by the German bishops to push for the ordination of women in their Synod.

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NOTE TO THE READER: Authorization is given to translate this blog into German, Spanish, and any other language needed. The author requests human translations, rather than computer translations, and a link back to the original English source.

This may seem like a no-brainer to a lot of faithful Catholics, but I think it’s worth mentioning. Women cannot be Catholic priests. This was explained by Pope Saint John Paul II in his 1994 Apostolic Letter entitled Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, wherein he stated in no uncertain terms…


That’s it. The case is closed. The Church has no authority, whatsoever, to ordain women to the priesthood. Jesus did not grant this authority to his apostles, and they could not transfer to the bishops an authority that they themselves did not receive. The bottom line is this. If there was ever a woman worthy of apostolic ordination in the Church, it would have been the Blessed Virgin Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ. Yet, Jesus did not ordain her. He didn’t make her an apostle. He didn’t make her a bishop. Nor did he make her a priest. He didn’t even make her a deacon. He left her as part of the laity, non-ordained to any office in the Church. It is absurd to suggest that some other woman would be worthy to be ordained, when not even the Blessed Virgin Mary was ordained. There were plenty of women in the early Church who could be ordained if that’s what Christ wanted. The Blessed Virgin Mary would be the first among them. Yet Christ chose not to call a single woman to his inner circle of apostolic authority. He simply never ordained a woman at all, and he never gave his apostles the authority to do it either. Bishops do not, and cannot, have an authority that the apostles never had.

Any attempted “ordination” of a woman is merely a simulation of Live Action Role Playing(LARPing) that, if to be taken seriously, insinuates the one doing the “ordination” has MORE authority than what Jesus Christ granted to his apostles. In other words, the one doing the “ordination” is claiming to have an authority greater than any bishop or the pope himself. Those women being “ordained” are publicly professing that the one doing their “ordination” has more authority than the pope. Those in attendance of said “ordination” are contributing (whether knowingly or unknowingly) to this profession of superior authority. On the face of it, it’s a schismatic act, which is why it incurs an automatic excommunication under canon law.

Pope Francis, echoing the Saintly letter of John Paul II, is clearly against the ordination of women. In the past, bishops would have to make a solemn decree of excommunication whenever one of these female “ordination” simulations took place. Now, such formalities are no longer necessary under canon law. The excommunication is instantaneous and automatic. I suspect this change in canon law is in anticipation of something very big in the near future. This change to canon law was approved by Pope Francis, quite recently, in response to efforts by the German bishops to push for the ordination of women in their Synod.

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I'm still not liking instant automatic excommunications. Sure, they are valid, but I'd think you get a much better feel for being excommunicated by Richard Burton.
 
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Real men excommunicate using real words. Wimps excommunicate automatically.
I have to agree actually. I imagine this scene with several clergy members to be honest. Makes me feel petty but I guess I am. ;)
 
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I'm still not liking instant automatic excommunications. Sure, they are valid, but I'd think you get a much better feel for being excommunicated by Richard Burton.
The bell, book, and candle absolutely needs to make a comeback. Think about this: if we had a righteous Pope who did that, and who made a big deal about it, it would undoubtedly merit EWTN broadcasting it worldwide. And if it carried with it the note of righteous anger heard in Burton's voice, maybe even more, it would instill a good kind of fear in Catholics who are on the fence. Sure, the rest of the godless secular world would mock it as "hocus pocus" but for Catholics who were faltering but had some semblance of faith and reverence left they would look to that and think "I can't mess around anymore."

I would like to see it happen just like in that video but perhaps with even more fervor, like this scene from Robin Hood when King John declares Robin Longstride an outlaw:
 
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I have to agree actually. I imagine this scene with several clergy members to be honest. Makes me feel petty but I guess I am. ;)
Excommunication is serious business, It should be rare but it should nonetheless happen. When we don't excommunicate we get messes like we have in Germany right now. Anything goes and everybody knows there is no penalty for everything goes. Joe Biden is a perfect example. He is essentially apostate, having renounced the Catholic Church in his most recent statement about 'standing up to hate'. But nobody would dare say he's not a fine upstanding Catholic. I'd say it but I don't count.
 
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Excommunication is serious business, It should be rare but it should nonetheless happen. When we don't excommunicate we get messes like we have in Germany right now. Anything goes and everybody knows there is no penalty for everything goes. Joe Biden is a perfect example. He is essentially apostate, having renounced the Catholic Church in his most recent statement about 'standing up to hate'. But nobody would dare say he's not a fine upstanding Catholic. I'd say it but I don't count.
I’ve said it and continue to say it. But as you said, I don’t count. I’m tired of feeling held hostage by certain members of clergy and their ideologies.
 
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