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Election 2022 Results

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Here are4 the current results from the GA Senate race:

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U.S. election 2022: Live results and maps

Are you aware that the Libertarian Party was formed from a split in the Republican Party; because some of those Republicans were disturbed by some of the Republican Party's Liberal policies at that time?

To this day I see Conservatives switch parties back and forth from Republican to Libertarian. I often vote for Libertarian candidates myself.

Libertarians are Conservatives. On that premise, and math, it's looking good for the Republicans IMO.

OK.

You are certainly entitled to think that Libertarians who refused to Walker this week will go home and decide that they were wrong. They really do wish to support a MAGA Republican.

I think that there is a much more important factor. Many Republicans went out to vote for Kemp. The majority of them also voted for Walker. Personally, I think that there will be a significant number of Kemp voters who will simply stay home, rather than go out to vote for Walker.
 
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Not sure why Reuters is being so cautious on this call. Most other places I looked at called Alaska for Republicans a while ago.

I suppose that Reuters is exercising caution, to preserve a high standard in reporting.


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Democrats had the House, the Senate, the Executive, and two years, to address those issues.

They failed. Now it looks like they will lose.
Who will lose.

Who will lose?

We have had many presidents in my lifetime. All but one did poorly 2 years after being elected. The Biden-led Democrats have had the best results in my lifetime.
 
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Ah, thank you. So it's Alaska they haven't called.

That is confusing to me, though. The Republicans have a gigantic lead (from Alaska 2022 live election results):
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Alaska does have an Instant Runoff/Ranked Choice Voting system which makes early calls harder, as you don't know how everyone ranked their choices (whether Tshibaka or Murkowski wins will probably come down to who the second and third place choices for Chesbro and Kelley's voters are). But when the differences are this big, even with only 71% of votes counted, I don't see any realistic route to Chesbro winning. Sure, we don't know which Republican will win Alaska, but it's definitely going to be a Republican, barring something insane happening like 70% of the remaining votes all going to Chesbro. Not sure why Reuters is being so cautious on this call. Most other places I looked at called Alaska for Republicans a while ago.

The networks should call the Alaska race for the Republicans. Both leading candidates are Republican.
 
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Who will lose?

It's impending that the Democrats will lose control of the House, and that Pelosi will lose her seat as Speaker.

We'll have to see what happens from there; but that is clearly a loss for Biden's unbridled agenda.
 
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The networks should call the Alaska race for the Republicans. Both leading candidates are Republican.

It would be amazing if the Republicans didn't take the Senate in Alaska in the runoff, but not impossible.
The way I understand it, the Democrats could take the hose in Alaska.

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I don't understand Alaska politics; but if I understand them the way I think that I understand them; the thought of two Republicans splitting the vote in the General Elections seems crazy to me. Did the Democrats come up with that plan?
 
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It's impending that the Democrats will lose control of the House, and that Pelosi will lose her seat as Speaker.

We'll have to see what happens from there; but that is clearly a loss for Biden's unbridled agenda.

I agree, if by unbridled you are pointing out that Biden will only be able to pass legislation with the support of some Republicans, as he did on over 200 occasions since his election. Yes, when Biden and McConnell agree on something (like the infrastructure bill), they will now need the support of a few Republicans. For example, when we need an aid bill for Ukraine, the bill will be negotiated in the Senate and send to the House where maybe 5 or 10 Republican votes will be needed.

McCarthy (or Trump's replacement) can object all he wants.
 
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It would be amazing if the Republicans didn't take the Senate in Alaska in the runoff, but not impossible.
The way I understand it, the Democrats could take the hose in Alaska.

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I don't understand Alaska politics; but if I understand them the way I think that I understand them; the thought of two Republicans splitting the vote in the General Elections seems crazy to me. Did the Democrats come up with that plan?

You need to read a bit. The Republicans will not lose the Senate. After there is no winner among the 1st two, the second choice cote of the next candidate are counted and added to the total of the first two.

How Alaska's ranked choice voting system works | CNN Politics

Many here have discussed this process and want it to be tried in more places than the 3 states where it is now used.
 
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I agree, if by unbridled you are pointing out that Biden will only be able to pass legislation with the support of some Republicans, as he did on over 200 occasions since his election

Yet he totally failed on the "more important issues."

They decided that there were issues more important that elected officials needed to deal with: respect for democracy and the vote, civil rights, abortion rights, climate change, student loans, penalties for marijuana use, and perhaps even working with other countries on solving the world's problems.

Good luck with that now that it appears that Biden will soon be a lame duck.

The House can tell him what the People think the important issues are.
 
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McCarthy (or Trump's replacement) can object all he wants.

I think that Biden's attacks on free speech, and freedom of the Press, are far worse than those of the McCarthy era; but I wouldn't go around calling him McCarthy.
 
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I think that Biden's attacks on free speech, and freedom of the Press, are far worse than those of the McCarthy era; but I wouldn't go around calling him McCarthy.

???
You do know that Kevin McCarthy is running for Speaker of The House?
 
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Yet he totally failed on the "more important issues."



Good luck with that now that it appears that Biden will soon be a lame duck.

The House can tell him what the People think the important issues are.

I strongly disagree with your conclusions. As was the case with the last great financial crisis, the work of the Democratic president (working with the Fed) has been exemplary.

I also strongly disagree with your idea that the rantings of the far right leaders in the House will "tell" anyone anything of importance. There have been many times with the House from a different party than the president. The country will survive the far right leadership for awhile, until the Republicans excise the MAGA's.
 
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I also strongly disagree with your idea that the rantings of the far right leaders in the House will "tell" anyone anything of importance

What far right leaders would those be; and why aren't the wishes of their constituents important?

Are you opposed to Democracy?
 
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What far right leaders would those be; and why aren't the wishes of their constituents important?

Are you opposed to Democracy?

???

The opinions of each of the member of the House is well-known now, to the Senate leadership and to Biden. Electing 10 more Republicans will not change that fact.
 
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It would be amazing if the Republicans didn't take the Senate in Alaska in the runoff, but not impossible.
True, but that's technically true of various races that have been called. Anyone in any election could just have 80% or more of the remaining votes go to them after half were counted and change the result from a loss to a win, but it's astoundingly unlikely (unless only certain areas have been counted, and the outlying ones may actually skew that heavily--which I don't think is the case here).

The way I understand it, the Democrats could take the hose in Alaska.

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I don't understand Alaska politics; but if I understand them the way I think that I understand them; the thought of two Republicans splitting the vote in the General Elections seems crazy to me. Did the Democrats come up with that plan?
Alaska has Ranked Choice Voting, which mostly prevents ticket splitting. So, assuming the numbers on that image stay the way they are, this is how it will work (technically there is a fourth candidate on the ballot who currently has something like 2% of the vote but we'll ignore them for simplicity). Now, in the election, you didn't simply vote for one candidate. Instead, you ranked them according to your preference. Your favorite candidate is ranked 1, your second favorite 2, and so on for 3 and 4 (you can also choose to stop ranking at any point). The percentages we see there are for people's first votes.

[EDIT: I realize that the photo doesn't show up in the quote, so for those who want easy reference and not have to keep scrolling back up: Peltola is the Democrat who currently has 47% of the vote (in terms of voter's top choices), while Palin (Republican) is in second place with 26%, and Begich (also Republican) has 24%.]

So here is what will happen assuming those numbers stay the same. Begich, who has the lowest number of votes, is knocked out. Anyone who voted for him will then have their vote moved to their second choice (or will be removed from the pool entirely if they chose to rank no one else). The question, then, is how that will work. Begich was a Republican so obviously we'll expect the majority to go to Palin, but undoubtedly some of his voters would prefer Peltola, and some just stopped at Begich (perhaps they didn't like Palin or Peltola much). How their votes get distributed will then be what decides the election. Thus splitting is avoided, for anyone whose vote was legitimately split between Palin and Begich would just have Palin as their second choice. If Begich's second-place voters aren't enough to put Palin into the majority, then that indicates in a hypothetical world where he was never on the ballot (say, where they did "normal" nominations where each party nominates one person and Palin won the Republican primary), Peltola would've still won because enough of the people who would've preferred Begich over Palin as the Republican nominee would've voted for her over Palin.

Given how far Peltola is ahead, it's most likely she wins, but it's possible, though unlikely, that Begich's voters favor Palin so strongly that she overtakes Peltola.

Peltola seems like she's a fairly strong candidate, given how much Republicans are dominating in the other statewide elections. I already noted how the Senate is basically guaranteed to go to a Republican, and it's looking like the main Republican in the governor race will win a majority outright, eliminating the need to calculate out how the second place votes go.
 
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The opinions of all the member of the House are well-known now. Electing 10 more Republicans will not change that fact.

You do understand that those representatives represent their constituents; no?

Are you making a fallacious assumption that all Republicans think alike?
 
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It appears that Republicans might very well soon hold the Senate majority.

Not soon.

Republicans need two more seats, same as the Democrats. In the next week or so, AZ will likely go to the Dems, and NV to the Republicans.

That will leave GA as deciding the Senate control, same as in 2020.

I expect the Republicans to make the same mistake this year as when they lost both seats in 2020. I expect Walker to invite Trump and other MAGA's to come on down and campaign for him. Surely, he will ask Donald whether that will help.

I don't think people really understand the divide on the right and why Trump got elected.
 
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