Crucifixion Dating of Jesus Christ

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I agree that the 6th day of the week is always the preparation for the Sabbath. The Lunar Cycle is USED for all their feast days. Philo makes it clear that they used it for their sabbaths and not just one of them.

Not for weekly Sabbaths it was not...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

It was actually a Tuesday at that time but the 1st day of the week.

No it was not...

 

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[Strong in Him]

The year of the crucifixion is relevant to the discussion. You want me to believe that Jesus is the Christ without fact checking it?

Jesus said that he was the Messiah, Peter declared that he was the Messiah, which Jesus said was a revelation from God. You don't have to believe him if you don't want to.

Jesus said nothing about the date of the crucifixion.
WHEN it happened, is irrelevant; THAT it happened and he gave his life for sin, to reconcile us to God, is very important.
I have no idea why you think that finding out the exact date of the crucifixion will help you to believe Jesus' words that he is the Messiah. Commentators differ on the date he was crucified - and they all seem to manage to believe anyway.

If the Jews would have checked the facts - maybe they wouldn't have crucified Him.

Of course they would have.
He was crucified for blasphemy - they thought it was wrong for him to claim to be God.
But the Jews didn't actually crucify him - that was a Roman punishment. According to their own law, Jews could stone to death anyone who was blaspheming. But they, apparently, could not carry out the death penalty because they were under Roman rule. They had to get the Romans to di it, so they accused him of treason against Caesar.
Dates had nothing to do with it.

It is such a foolish thing to say just accept what you don't know to be a fact.

I don't know that your supposed date of the crucifixion is a fact, and I'm certainly not accepting it.
Nor that Jesus was crucified the day after the sabbath.

You just think I'm supposed to believe anyone that say they are Jesus.

Don't be daft, of course I don't.
But I do expect that as you are posting in a "Christians only" section of the forum and your faith icon says you are a Christian, that you would actually believe our Saviour, Jesus Christ, when he says something.

If you don't believe him, or are not sure of his claims; fine.
But you need to ask the Mods to change your faith description to Christian seeker, and post in another section of the forum.

You then quote Jesus as if we are supposed to believe any man without any consideration of their credibility.

Er yes - Jesus is the Son of God, our Saviour, this is a Christian forum and I am a CHRIST-ian. The clue's in the title; I believe Christ.
How about you?

If you don't believe he was who he said he was, you need to start a thread in another forum so it can be properly debated.

God put forth the credibility of His Son for a reason. I'm honoring it by looking into those matters.

So if you can prove that the date of the crucifixion was when you say that it was, you'll believe that Jesus was who he said he was?
You don't believe because of his miracles, or because he was raised from the dead? It all depends on a date which the Bible does not give?
I don't understand that.

But you just want me to accept what other people have written and just consider their tradition as perfected. Not so! I would warn everyone here not to make the mistake your preaching here.

Will you please stop telling me what I believe and accept.
You are wrong.

 

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[Strong in Him]

At this point you said this is not relevant to you. You admitted that.

The date of the crucifixion is not relevant.
God doesn't ask that we believe in the correct date in order to be saved.
God does not give us the date of the crucifixion - if it was so important for us to have it, he would.

You have decided, for some reason, it is important for you to know the exact date before you can believe Jesus.
Good luck with that.
I believe Jesus anyway. The date and date on which he died don't matter - only that he did, and he died for me.

 

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[Strong in Him]

Thank you for visiting the thread.

So you can't answer my question about Jesus?
You will only believe that Jesus was who he said he was if you can verify the date of his crucifixion? (Which we're not given anyway.)

That is a shame and doesn't make sense to me. But I suppose if it leads to you believing that Jesus was the Messiah; go ahead.

 

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[Strong in Him]

It is unrelated to this subject.

It's the other way around.
What you think of Jesus is vital, and central to the Christian faith.
The date and day of the crucifixion, isn't.

I'm not going to continue in this discussion with you as you have already said your not interested in this subject so I'm not sure why your remaining in this discussion.

Well it WAS because I was trying to understand your argument. But there's probably not a lot of point.
You can't answer my questions and you keep, mistakenly, telling me what I believe.

On the other hand you claim that the crucifixion was on a day that denied what the Gospels say - so I am entitled to challenge it, so that any newcomers here won't be misled.

 

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[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Yes, it was. I have given the criteria I used in other posts. I'm not alone. Some of the earliest Church historians also picked March 25th (8th of the Kalends of April).

That has nothing to do with it. Your original premise was wrong

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Yes, even for the weekly sabbaths.

No it was not. That is refuted even unto this very day.

 

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[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Yeah? Articles- Restoring Creator's calendar Scripture/Historical proof

Should give you plenty of data to show a Lunar Sabbath.

I don't have time nor am interested in any of those theories because they are wrong. The sabbath is on a weekly independent cycle. Using a lunar Sabbath breaks that cycle. There are 100s of youtube videos refutting the lunar sabbath. Lots of data for you there. It is only a fringe christian belief. Leviticus 23:15-16 proves you wrong...also creation itself proves it false...the moon was made on day 4 and the Sabbath was on day 7.