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[wendykvw]

The cartoon is from the naked pastor.

This is how the non theist world views Christianity. How would you answer?

 

[BNR32FAN]

The cartoon is from the naked pastor.

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There’s no point in answering. If a person has this outlook on God there’s nothing you can say that will change that.

 

[wendykvw]

There’s no point in answering. If a person has this outlook on God there’s nothing you can say that will change that.

Hopeless. Say it isn't so.

 

[Clare73]

The cartoon is from the naked pastor.

This is how the non theist world views Christianity. How would you answer?

"Well, you're beginning to understand the sovereignty of God.
But there's more to it than that."

But why bother?

One has to be born again to even see the kingdom of God (John 3:3).

 

[HTacianas]

The cartoon is from the naked pastor.

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No person has the authority to do that. To simply say, "hey I don't like my kids I'm going to murder them". On the other hand, the State can put a murderer to death. Because the State has the authority to do it.

 

[PloverWing]

I love nakedpastor's art.

I'm not so sure he's a non-theist. I think, rather, that he wrestles with a lot of questions without jumping too quickly to an easy answer. From his book, Questions Are The Answer:

Questions not only open the door for answers, they also open the door to mystery and trouble. In fact, as many of these cartoons depict, asking too many questions or the wrong kinds of questions can get you into plenty of difficulty. So over the course of time I eventually came to detect that there are three stages of questions that I've journeyed through.... The third kind of questions is open questions. The answer to these questions is that there isn't an answer. Oh, there may be an answer, but we don't know what it is, we don't pretend that there is, and we remain open in order to discern it when or if it should arrive.

The cartoon in the OP is one of these difficult questions, I think. Whatever the answer is, we shouldn't decide too easily that we've figured it out. The cartoon invites us to sit for a while with the difficult and important question of God's goodness, of what we mean when we say that God is good.

 

[wendykvw]

I love nakedpastor's art.

I'm not so sure he's a non-theist. I think, rather, that he wrestles with a lot of questions without jumping too quickly to an easy answer. From his book, Questions Are The Answer:


The cartoon in the OP is one of these difficult questions, I think. Whatever the answer is, we shouldn't decide too easily that we've figured it out. The cartoon invites us to sit for a while with the difficult and important question of God's goodness, of what we mean when we say that God is good.

Right he is a theist as far as I know. The cartoon appeals to non theism was my point.

 

[Mr. M]

This is how the non theist world views Christianity. How would you answer?

The view of man cannot be compared to the One
who knows our hearts.
Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

He has given us the remedy, therefore, only those who
reject the gift of His Son need be concerned. Can I tell
you more about Him?

 

[wendykvw]

The view of man cannot be compared to the One
who knows our hearts.
Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

He has given us the remedy, therefore, only those who
reject the gift of His Son need be concerned. Can I tell
you more about Him?

The whole point is if you stand back and look from a non Christian pov. Be advised this is the view that this generation has about the biblical account. And we as Christians need to be mindful of this mindset.

 

[childeye 2]

The whole point is if you stand back and look from a non Christian pov. Be advised this is the view that this generation has about the biblical account. And we as Christians need to be mindful of this mindset.

I hear you. But still, it's a logical fallacy. Mankind was made from the dust of the ground and Noah died just like everyone else even if not in the same manner. The biblical account is that God's Word partook of flesh and blood and suffered and died so as to destroy the works of the one who had the power of death and provide for a resurrection.

 

[Mr. M]

The whole point is if you stand back and look from a non Christian pov. Be advised this is the view that this generation has about the biblical account. And we as Christians need to be mindful of this mindset.

No, you asked how I would respond. I am not really
interested in non Christian povs, but if someone got
in my face with this kind of garbage, I would politely
try to steer the conversation to what Christ has done.
The End.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

The cartoon is from the naked pastor.

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My answer

The cartoon is kind of a false analogy, even though I think we are starting to work our way towards the moral degeneracy going on in the times of Noah where the corruption of the people was starting to erase the imago Dei. This is similar to the kind of like the corruption we see in Sodom and Gomorrah, besides the people being warlike and murderous. These people also had the help of fallen angels who actively aided in their corruption and bribed them with goodies as far as new technology that would assist them in their sin and further corruption.


Similar things happened after the Flood as well which led to the Tower of Babel...

 

[wendykvw]

I hear you. But still, it's a logical fallacy. Mankind was made from the dust of the ground and Noah died just like everyone else even if not in the same manner. The biblical account is that God's Word partook of flesh and blood and suffered and died so as to destroy the works of the one who had the power of death and provide for a resurrection.

Exactly. But you must understand how we take for granted what we know as truth. It is essential to empathize with those who are troubled and need assurance of God's love.

 

[wendykvw]

No, you asked how I would respond. I am not really
interested in non Christian povs, but if someone got
in my face with this kind of garbage, I would politely
try to steer the conversation to what Christ has done.
The End.

It isn't garbage, they actually have hearts and thinking minds. We are to gently share our faith. It is a valid concern. How would Christ respond? Angry or kind?

 

[Clare73]

It isn't garbage, they actually have hearts and thinking minds. We are to gently share our faith. It is a valid concern. How would Christ respond? Angry or kind?

He didn't respond too kindly to mockers. . .nor did the apostle.

 

[wendykvw]

He didn't respond too kindly to mockers. . .nor did the apostle.

Example.

 

[Mr. M]

It isn't garbage, they actually have hearts and thinking minds. We are to gently share our faith. It is a valid concern. How would Christ respond? Angry or kind?

That is exactly what I answered.

I would politely
try to steer the conversation to what Christ has done.

 

[wendykvw]

He didn't respond too kindly to mockers. . .nor did the apostle.

But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. 1 Peter 3:15

 

[Clare73]

Example.

John 8:37-45; Matthew 23:33-36.

 

[Soyeong]

The cartoon is from the naked pastor.

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Some people want to criticize God for not acting to stop injustice while also criticizing him for enacting justice, so there is just no pleasing them. Even if you could convince them to agree with every decision that God is reported to have made in the Bible, then they still wouldn't believe that God exists, so it is all a smoke screen. If the God that someone worships would never do anything that they disagree with, then they might just be worshiping an idealized form of themselves.