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Well I don't know if you have noticed but the Moon has craters that are 1000+ kilometers in diameter and they are the most recent impacts that we see strange how the moon can be struck by so many of the largest asteroids in such a short period of time and the earth left out of that equation.

That wasn't the question, my question was why are there so many large craters on the moon, and why are the largest craters the youngest ones?

The craters (or more accurately impact basins) that are 1000+ kilometres in diameter are not the most recent impacts. They were formed during or before the Late Heavy Bombardment (LHB), which occurred about 3.9-3.8 billion years ago. It may be significant that the oldest terrestrial rocks date from shortly after 3.8 billion years; perhaps the Late Heavy Bombardment destroyed all the pre-existing rocks.
 
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The craters (or more accurately impact basins) that are 1000+ kilometres in diameter are not the most recent impacts. They were formed during or before the Late Heavy Bombardment (LHB), which occurred about 3.9-3.8 billion years ago. It may be significant that the oldest terrestrial rocks date from shortly after 3.8 billion years; perhaps the Late Heavy Bombardment destroyed all the pre-existing rocks.
Thanks for your input but you may like to consider the origin of the moon. The large and most recent impacts that I refer to are the large mare these very large lava beds are filling the largest craters if you look closely at these maria you will notice that the surface has only 2% of the impacts that cover the rest of the surface. so conclusion 98% of the visible impacts seen on the lunar surface occurred before the largest impacts occurred. This makes the largest impacts up there with the most recent in fact the smaller impacts that are seen on the maria are rocks that were ejected into orbit from the largest impacts and later many of those ejected rocks found their way back to the lunar surface some even making it to earth.
 
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I made it clear that my belief is that the earth is 6000 years young so my point regarding the age of the rocks is meaningless.
Ah, so your point was meaningless... My mistake - to me it looked terminally ill-informed.

remember comprehension, must learn that before you can debate but then again you haven't debated anything that I can see.
If you post some meaningful points we can debate them. My main intent here is to help get the science right.
 
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You are the bad apple for falsely accusing me I will forgive you as it is a consequence of your lack of comprehension. I will wait for you to fly in and drop another bomb and then fly off.
I'm not accusing you of anything - I just pointed out that your post indicated a double standard. If that was unintentional it might be better if you explained what you meant rather than resorting to insults.
 
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Well I don't know if you have noticed but the Moon has craters that are 1000+ kilometers in diameter and they are the most recent impacts that we see strange how the moon can be struck by so many of the largest asteroids in such a short period of time and the earth left out of that equation.
The Earth wasn't 'left out' - but it does have weather and plate tectonics.

JFYI - rating serious posts with a 'funny' smiley is viewed as goading (against forum rules) by the moderators.
 
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I'm not accusing you of anything - I just pointed out that your post indicated a double standard. If that was unintentional it might be better if you explained what you meant rather than resorting to insults.
Yes you are I said in your thread 161 that anyone can make a mistake and it was you that said atheists are the bad apples I just said anyone can make a mistake so you falsely accuse me once again must improve your comprehension must I remind you again.
 
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When I see tree huggers doing their part, namely cutting these out of their lives:

1. gas-powered cars
2. cement patios
3. glass windows
4. barbecue grills
5. fireplaces
6. pop
7. CO2 extinguishers

... then I'll consider how sincere they are.
I’ve got an electric car. No cement patios. No bbq grill. No fire places. I don’t dr king pop. I’ve no extinguishers. My windows are triple glazed.

Am I sincere?
 
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There are craters on the moon because of a great cosmic battle that took place after the Fall.

Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

A sort of snowball fight, but using space debris instead.
 
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The Earth wasn't 'left out' - but it does have weather and plate tectonics.

JFYI - rating serious posts with a 'funny' smiley is viewed as goading (against forum rules) by the moderators.
Yes the earth was left out as most of the impacts on the moon are a result of the moon colliding into the earth and after that the moon fixed its orbit and all the impacts are a result of the moon colliding into its own debris field that circled the earth. Just like the rings of Saturn that will form moons. Now you have learned something. A little bit of comprehension and attention pless.
 
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I’ve got an electric car. No cement patios. No bbq grill. No fire places. I don’t dr king pop. I’ve no extinguishers. My windows are triple glazed.

Am I sincere?
Are you a tree-hugger? does your wife drive a gas-powered car?
 
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Yes you are I said in your thread 161 that anyone can make a mistake and it was you that said atheists are the bad apples I just said anyone can make a mistake so you falsely accuse me once again must improve your comprehension must I remind you again.
JFYI, my #161 is a post not a thread. A thread is the whole discussion - 'Creation vs Evolution'.

I didn't say that atheists are bad apples, I said your post seemed to imply that. I can see from the context that when you said, "you have a story to tell that is contrary to the truth" you may have meant that someone in the story was a liar rather than @driewerf himself, but it's poorly expressed.

The only thing I accused you of was resorting to insults (in your #165).
 
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JFYI, my #161 is a post not a thread. A thread is the whole discussion - 'Creation vs Evolution'.

I didn't say that atheists are bad apples, I said your post seemed to imply that. I can see from the context that when you said, "you have a story to tell that is contrary to the truth" you may have meant that someone in the story was a liar rather than @driewerf himself, but it's poorly expressed.

The only thing I accused you of was resorting to insults (in your #165).
Stop crying your a big boy now.
 
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Yes the earth was left out as most of the impacts on the moon are a result of the moon colliding into the earth and after that the moon fixed its orbit and all the impacts are a result of the moon colliding into its own debris field that circled the earth. Just like the rings of Saturn that will form moons. Now you have learned something. A little bit of comprehension and attention pless.
Well, I've certainly learned something about you... the experts don't agree with your moon crater story.

"The bottom line is, everything that happened on the moon happened on the Earth,” said David Kring, crater expert and team leader for Center for Lunar Science and Exploration. “The Earth used to look just like that.”

But Earth has several things the moon doesn’t — an atmosphere and liquid water that cause erosion. And the trump card, plate tectonics, that recycles much of the planet’s crust over millions of years and smooths away blemishes left by cosmic impacts. As a result, there are only around 160 known impact craters in existence today (though there are surely more that haven’t been discovered)." How are craters formed?

A more specific version is here: The origin of the Moon's craters.
 
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