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All that matters is Saul was fighting against God, which means he was in sin against God and His Son.
Brother, it is futile to fight God, but not a sin. Jacob was blessed after fighting God!

“Your name will no longer be Jacob,” the man told him. “From now on you will be called Israel, because you have fought with God and with men and have won.” (Genesis 32:28 NLT)​

Paul was also blessed by fighting God. Although neither knew at the time they were fighting God.
Act 22:19 And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee: Act 22:20 And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.
Paul was following God's written instructions. His zeal for God's word led to his confrontation with Jesus and the blessing of knowing Him. Being a "good worker" for God, Jesus was able to give him greater work in getting Jesus' message to every corner of the globe.

Work hard so you can present yourself to God and receive his approval. Be a good worker, one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15 NLT)​

It is through Paul that God calls us, in the new covenant, to keep the true Sabbath of God rescued from the human tradition of Judaism since Joshua. The "rest" spoken of in Hebrews 3 and 4 "has been ready since He made the world". God did not give them this "rest" for 40 years with Manna! They kept a seventh day Sabbath from morning to morning, which was right in Eden, but not near the Promised Land. When they reached the Promised Land, they switched to a Sabbath from evening to evening, which is not a day of the week as defined in Genesis from morning to morning and confirmed below, because the Sabbath remembered is in the time zone of creation.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

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Although God gave them His Sabbath in the Promised Land, under Joshua they did not understand the "rest" of God's Sabbath to keep the Sabbath outside the time zone of the Promised Land. To correct this misunderstanding since Joshua, "God set another time for entering His rest, and that time is today", in the new covenant with the call in Hebrews 3 and 4 to keep God's true Sabbath "rest". The "rest" that God wants us to enter "today", in the new covenant when believers find themselves living outside the time zone of the Promised Land, "has been ready since He made the world".

For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience. (Hebrews 4:8-11 NIV)​

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For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience. (Hebrews 4:8-11 NIV)

Those in the New Covenant rest in Christ's work at Calvary, because we are not working six days a week trying to keep the Mount Sinai Covenant.

We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.

We have "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage", as instructed by Paul in Galatians 4:24-31.

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Those in the New Covenant rest in Christ's work at Calvary
Brother, that is not another "day" that "has been ready since He made the world".

For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience. (Hebrews 4:8-11 NIV)​

A "day" different from Judaism's point of view of the Sabbath since Joshua.

Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. (Hebrews 4:8 NLT)​

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Brother, that is not another "day" that "has been ready since He made the world".

For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience. (Hebrews 4:8-11 NIV)​

A "day" different from Judaism's point of view of the Sabbath since Joshua.

Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. (Hebrews 4:8 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge


Jos 21:43 And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.


Albert Barnes Commentary:

Hebrews 4:8
For if Jesus - Margin, “That is, Joshua.” The Syriac renders it, “Joshua the son of Nun.” “Jesus” is the Greek mode of writing “Joshua,” and there can be no doubt that Joshua is here intended. The object is to prove that Joshua did” not” give the people of God such a rest as to make it improper to speak of a “rest” after that time. “If Joshua had given them a complete and final rest; if by his conducting them to the promised land all had been done which had been contemplated by the promise, then it would not have been alluded to again, as it was in the time of David.” Joshua “did” give them a rest in the promised land; but it was not all which was intended, and it did not exclude the promise of another and more important rest.
Then would he not - Then “God” would not have spoken of another time when that rest could be obtained. The “other day” here referred to is that which is mentioned before by the phrase “today,” and refers to the time in which it is spoken of long after Joshua, to wit, in the time of David.



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The “other day” here referred to is that which is mentioned before by the phrase “today,” and refers to the time in which it is spoken of long after Joshua, to wit, in the time of David.
Brother, no! This rest was "prepared" and "ready" since He made the world. "Prepared" and "ready" when He rested on the "seventh day" of creation. The rest, that those that died in the desert did not enter from morning to morning on the "seventh day" with Manna for 40 years near the Promised Land that Joshua later entered prior to the "seventh day" of the week from evening to evening between two days of the week from morning to morning in the Promised Land. Joshua, however, did not benefit from the punishment of not entering the Sabbath with Manna because he wrongly assumed the Sabbath in the Promised Land was the "seventh day" of the week when it fell in the Promised Land before the "seventh day" of the week. For forty years, God had taught them how not to enter the Sabbath with Manna by keeping the "seventh day" of the week, which the book of Hebrews tells us did Joshua no good because he did not "share the faith of those who listened to God". In the Hebrews passage, "another day" refers to a different day than the one thought for the Sabbath since Joshua: not the seventh day of the week everywhere, but the seventh day of the week of creation remembered in the time zone of creation.

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” (Hebrews 4:1-5 NLT)​

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God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it.

That rest is not a day of the week. It is the Gospel of the one who kept the Sinai Covenant perfectly.


Christ is our rest every day of the week for those who are in the New Covenant.

Why? We are not working 6 days a week trying to keep the Old Covenant now made "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13.

Col 2:16 Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths,
Col 2:17 which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body is of the Christ;

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That rest is not a day of the week.
Brother, you contradict the message of the passage with your human tradition. The passage plainly says that the "rest" is the rest of God on the "seventh day" of creation.

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” (Hebrews 4:1-5 NLT)
It is the Gospel of the one who kept the Sinai Covenant perfectly.
That is a different rest not available to those who died in the desert as the passage plainly tells us they could have entered had they "shared the faith of those who listened to God".

And who was it who rebelled against God, even though they heard his voice? Wasn’t it the people Moses led out of Egypt? And who made God angry for forty years? Wasn’t it the people who sinned, whose corpses lay in the wilderness? And to whom was God speaking when he took an oath that they would never enter his rest? Wasn’t it the people who disobeyed him? So we see that because of their unbelief they were not able to enter his rest. (Hebrews 3:16-19 NLT)​
Christ is our rest every day of the week for those who are in the New Covenant. Why? We are not working 6 days a week trying to keep the Old Covenant now made "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13.
What is made obsolete are the animal sacrifices, which were a stand-in for Jesus' forgiveness as our High Priest in the earthly "copy" of the true temple in heaven.
  1. Mount Sinai - Animal sacrifices in an earthly temple "copy" as a stand-in, borrowing credit from the future daily of Jesus as our High Priest in the heavenly temple.
  2. Mount Zion - Jesus in the heavenly temple as our High Priest to forgive sins daily.
Col 2:16 Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths, Col 2:17 which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body is of the Christ;
Read on and you will see that Paul is talking about human rules and not God's rules.

You have died with Christ, and he has set you free from the spiritual powers of this world. So why do you keep on following the rules of the world, such as, “Don’t handle! Don’t taste! Don’t touch!”? Such rules are mere human teachings about things that deteriorate as we use them. These rules may seem wise because they require strong devotion, pious self-denial, and severe bodily discipline. But they provide no help in conquering a person’s evil desires. (Colossians 2:20-23 NLT)​

God calls us through Paul to keep the true Sabbath of God rescued from the human tradition of Judaism since Joshua in the new covenant. The "rest" spoken of in Hebrews 3 and 4 "has been ready since He made the world". God did not give them this "rest" for 40 years with Manna! They kept a seventh day Sabbath from morning to morning, which was right in Eden, but not near the Promised Land. When they reached the Promised Land, they switched to a Sabbath from evening to evening, which is not a day of the week as defined in Genesis from morning to morning and confirmed below, because the Sabbath remembered is in the time zone of creation.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

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Although God gave them His Sabbath in the Promised Land, under Joshua they did not understand the "rest" of God's Sabbath to keep the Sabbath outside the time zone of the Promised Land. To correct this misunderstanding since Joshua, "God set another time for entering His rest, and that time is today", in the new covenant with the call in Hebrews 3 and 4 to keep God's true Sabbath "rest". The "rest" that God wants us to enter "today", in the new covenant when believers find themselves living outside the time zone of the Promised Land, "has been ready since He made the world".

For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience. (Hebrews 4:8-11 NIV)​

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Brother, you contradict the message of the passage with your human tradition. The passage plainly says that the "rest" is the rest of God on the "seventh day" of creation.

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” (Hebrews 4:1-5 NLT)

That is a different rest not available to those who died in the desert as the passage plainly tells us they could have entered had they "shared the faith of those who listened to God".

And who was it who rebelled against God, even though they heard his voice? Wasn’t it the people Moses led out of Egypt? And who made God angry for forty years? Wasn’t it the people who sinned, whose corpses lay in the wilderness? And to whom was God speaking when he took an oath that they would never enter his rest? Wasn’t it the people who disobeyed him? So we see that because of their unbelief they were not able to enter his rest. (Hebrews 3:16-19 NLT)​

What is made obsolete are the animal sacrifices, which were a stand-in for Jesus' forgiveness as our High Priest in the earthly "copy" of the true temple in heaven.
  1. Mount Sinai - Animal sacrifices in an earthly temple "copy" as a stand-in, borrowing credit from the future daily of Jesus as our High Priest in the heavenly temple.
  2. Mount Zion - Jesus in the heavenly temple as our High Priest to forgive sins daily.

Read on and you will see that Paul is talking about human rules and not God's rules.

You have died with Christ, and he has set you free from the spiritual powers of this world. So why do you keep on following the rules of the world, such as, “Don’t handle! Don’t taste! Don’t touch!”? Such rules are mere human teachings about things that deteriorate as we use them. These rules may seem wise because they require strong devotion, pious self-denial, and severe bodily discipline. But they provide no help in conquering a person’s evil desires. (Colossians 2:20-23 NLT)​

God calls us through Paul to keep the true Sabbath of God rescued from the human tradition of Judaism since Joshua in the new covenant. The "rest" spoken of in Hebrews 3 and 4 "has been ready since He made the world". God did not give them this "rest" for 40 years with Manna! They kept a seventh day Sabbath from morning to morning, which was right in Eden, but not near the Promised Land. When they reached the Promised Land, they switched to a Sabbath from evening to evening, which is not a day of the week as defined in Genesis from morning to morning and confirmed below, because the Sabbath remembered is in the time zone of creation.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

361381_ff7aae7ab7169d40699276fc6f90eac7.png


Although God gave them His Sabbath in the Promised Land, under Joshua they did not understand the "rest" of God's Sabbath to keep the Sabbath outside the time zone of the Promised Land. To correct this misunderstanding since Joshua, "God set another time for entering His rest, and that time is today", in the new covenant with the call in Hebrews 3 and 4 to keep God's true Sabbath "rest". The "rest" that God wants us to enter "today", in the new covenant when believers find themselves living outside the time zone of the Promised Land, "has been ready since He made the world".

For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience. (Hebrews 4:8-11 NIV)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge


The 4th commandment was the “sign” of the Sinai Covenant now found to be “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:13.


Paul revealed the temporary nature of the Sinai Covenant in Galatians 3:16-29. Paul said the law was “added” 430 years “after” the promise made to Abraham “until” the seed (Christ) could come to whom the promise was made. Jesus used the same word “until” in Matthew 5:17-18.


In Galatians 4:24-31 Paul told the Galatian believers to “cast out” the Sinai Covenant of “bondage”.


We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. Instead, we are come to the New Covenant of Mount Zion in Hebrews 12:22-24.



Col 2:16 Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths,

Col 2:17 which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body is of the Christ; (YLT)



Early Church Fathers who lived before the Council of Nicaea on the Sabbath:


Ignatius of Antioch

If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death—whom some deny, by which mystery we have obtained faith, and therefore endure, that we may be found the disciples of Jesus Christ, our only Master(Letter to the Magnesians(shorter) Chapter IX.—Let us live with Christ [A.D. 110]).

During the Sabbath He continued under the earth in the tomb in which Joseph of Arimathæa had laid Him. At the dawning of the Lord’s day He arose from the dead, according to what was spoken by Himself, “As Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man also be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” The day of the preparation, then, comprises the passion; the Sabbath embraces the burial; the Lord’s Day contains the resurrection(The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians Longer Versions. Chapter IX.—Reference to the history of Christ.)

Justin Martyr

The Lawgiver is present, yet you do not see Him; to the poor the Gospel is preached, the blind see, yet you do not understand. You have now need of a second circumcision, though you glory greatly in the flesh. The new law requires you to keep perpetual sabbath, and you, because you are idle for one day, suppose you are pious, not discerning why this has been commanded you: and if you eat unleavened bread, you say the will of God has been fulfilled. The Lord our God does not take pleasure in such observances: if there is any perjured person or a thief among you, let him cease to be so; if any adulterer, let him repent; then he has kept the sweet and true sabbaths of God. If any one has impure hands, let him wash and be pure.(Dialogue with Trypho the Jew Chapter XII.—The Jews violate the eternal law, and interpret ill that of Moses.)

For we too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined you,—namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your hearts. For if we patiently endure all things contrived against us by wicked men and demons, so that even amid cruelties unutterable, death and torments, we pray for mercy to those who inflict such things upon us, and do not wish to give the least retort to any one, even as the new Lawgiver commanded us: how is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us, —I speak of fleshly circumcision, and Sabbaths, and feasts?(Dialogue with Trypho the Jew Chapter XVIII.—Christians would observe the law, if they did not know why it was instituted. [A.D. 155]).

And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday,1 all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.(First Apology Chapter LXVII.—Weekly worship of the Christians. [A.D. 155]).

“Wherefore, Trypho, I will proclaim to you, and to those who wish to become proselytes, the divine message which I heard from that man. Do you see that the elements are not idle, and keep no Sabbaths? Remain as you were born. For if there was no need of circumcision before Abraham, or of the observance of Sabbaths, of feasts and sacrifices, before Moses; no more need is there of them now, after that, according to the will of God, Jesus Christ the Son of God has been born without sin, of a virgin sprung from the stock of Abraham. For when Abraham himself was in uncircumcision, he was justified and blessed by reason of the faith which he reposed in God, as the Scripture tells. Moreover, the Scriptures and the facts themselves compel us to admit that He received circumcision for a sign, and not for righteousness.(The Second Apology of Justin for the Christians Addressed to the Roman Senate. Chapter XXIII.—The opinion of the Jews regarding the law does an injury to God.)

“As, then, circumcision began with Abraham, and the Sabbath and sacrifices and offerings and feasts with Moses, and it has been proved they were enjoined on account of the hardness of your people’s heart, so it was necessary, in accordance with the Father’s will, that they should have an end in Him who was born of a virgin, of the family of Abraham and tribe of Judah, and of David; in Christ the Son of God, who was proclaimed as about to come to all the world, to be the everlasting law and the everlasting covenant, even as the forementioned prophecies show.(The Second Apology of Justin for the Christians Addressed to the Roman Senate. Chapter XLIII.—He concludes that the law had an end in Christ, who was born of the Virgin.)

Tertullian

“[L]et him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day . . . teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges? . . . Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1–7, Heb. 11:4]. . . . Noah also, uncircumcised—yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath—God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God”(An Answer to the Jews Chapter II.—The Law Anterior to Moses. [A.D. 203]).
 
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The 4th commandment was the “sign” of the Sinai Covenant now found to be “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:13.

Just curious do you ever look at the scriptures you post?

There is no scripture that says the 4th commandment is a sign of the Sinai covenant.

What God said is the Sabbath is a sign between God and His people. It is a sign on how He sanctifies us. We do not sanctify ourselves, God does through His holy Sabbath day. Ezekiel 20:12, Ezekiel 20:20. I’m surprised more people wouldn’t want this sign between God through His holy Sabbath. If you don’t have the sign you are one of God’s people, the opposite seems to be in dangerous territory.


Hebrews 8:13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. No where does this say the Sabbath commandment is deleted or any of the Ten Commandments for that matter.

The agreement has went away not God’s laws. God renewed His covenant and placed His laws in our hearts and minds Hebrews 8:10. The commandments of God came in a unit of Ten Exodus 34:28 and they were engraved by the finger of God. Exodus 34:18. God said Remember the Sabbath day, I think its important to believe God. God knows what’s best for us and His Sabbath is a day we rest in Him through His Word, not doing our ways but the ways of our Lord thy God on His holy Sabbath day. Isaiah 58:13
 
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There is no scripture that says the 4th commandment is a sign of the Sinai covenant.


Exo 31:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exo 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Exo 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Exo 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Exo 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.


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Exo 31:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exo 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Exo 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Exo 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Exo 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.


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Did you read the scriptures you posted? Your commentary does not match with God’s Words. The Sabbath is a sign between God and His people throughout the generations, it is a perpetual covenant. This is a powerful statement from God, that sadly many people miss by inserting their own ideas, thoughts, feelings into the plain Word of God instead of trusting God’s Word. Proverbs 3:5

Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

That’s the sign- between Me and you- God and His people if ye shall keep God’s Sabbath.
 
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A note about the phrase "throughout your generations". It probably doesn't mean what our modern ears think it means.

Here's a handy link to a search:
BibleGateway - Keyword Search: throughout your generations

One example:
Numbers 10:8 And the sons of Aaron, the priests, shall blow with the trumpets; and they shall be to you for an ordinance for ever throughout your generations.

There aren't sons of Aaron blowing silver trumpets around today. The best explanation I've heard is that the phrase can also mean "for time indefinite".
 
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A note about the phrase "throughout your generations". It probably doesn't mean what our modern ears think it means.

Here's a handy link to a search:
BibleGateway - Keyword Search: throughout your generations

One example:
Numbers 10:8 And the sons of Aaron, the priests, shall blow with the trumpets; and they shall be to you for an ordinance for ever throughout your generations.

There aren't sons of Aaron blowing silver trumpets around today. The best explanation I've heard is that the phrase can also mean "for time indefinite".

This has nothing to do with what God said about His holy Sabbath day and it being a perpetual covenant which we see the promise of God fulfilled when the Sabbath continues to be the Lords chosen day of worship for "all flesh" that are saved for eternity Isaiah 66:23

Trying to disprove what God says directly is one way to look at the scriptures, it's not my approach though, but we are given free will.
 
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This has nothing to do with what God said about His holy Sabbath day and it being a perpetual covenant which we see the promise of God fulfilled when the Sabbath continues to be the Lords chosen day of worship for "all flesh" that are saved for eternity Isaiah 66:23

Trying to disprove what God says directly is one way to look at the scriptures, it's not my approach though, but we are given free will.
It turns out Perpetual doesn't mean what we think, either.

BibleGateway - Keyword Search: perpetual
 
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It turns out Perpetual doesn't mean what we think, either.

BibleGateway - Keyword Search: perpetual

The Greek word that is used here:

as a lasting
עוֹלָֽם׃ (‘ō·w·lām)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 5769: Concealed, eternity, frequentatively, always

Context is also way key for scriptures. We know that God's lasting Sabbath covenant is true because the Lord said so and scriptures reveal that promised fulfilled. Isaiah 66:23
 
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The Greek word that is used here:

as a lasting
עוֹלָֽם׃ (‘ō·w·lām)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 5769: Concealed, eternity, frequentatively, always

Context is also way key for scriptures. We know that God's lasting Sabbath covenant is true because the Lord said so and scriptures reveal that promised fulfilled. Isaiah 66:23
Yes, context... notice that some of the things related to the Levites are perpetual as well. And Levites are also mentioned in Isaiah 66.

Yet we don't see Levites doing those things today.
 
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Did you read the scriptures you posted? Your commentary does not match with God’s Words. The Sabbath is a sign between God and His people throughout the generations, it is a perpetual covenant.

There is no record of anyone keeping a Sabbath day before the children of Israel left Egypt. The text I showed you said it is a "sign" between God and the children of Israel.


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There is no record of anyone keeping a Sabbath day before the children of Israel left Egypt. The text I showed you said it is a "sign" between God and the children of Israel.

Not sure if you noticed this, but the Sabbath is the holy day of the Lord thy God, not the holy day of the Jews. Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13. The Sabbath was part of the creation week and was God's perfect plan before sin entered. God worked six days and rested the seventh day. He then blessed the seventh day and sanctified it- set apart for holy use. Genesis 2:1-3 This model of work 6 days rest the seventh day is the same model God commanded man- Exodus 20:8-11 because man is made in God's image. Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man Mark 2:27 and man was created on the sixth day Genesis 1:26 before the first Sabbath Genesis 2:1-3 and before Jew or Gentile. If you don't think the Sabbath was made for you, I find that sad, because it God's blessing for mankind to rest in Him on His holy Sabbath day. If one doesn't want to keep the Sabbath as a day of worship to our Lord and Savior now, what makes one think they will want to in Heaven or the New Earth, because just like God promised, the Sabbath will continue on for eternity Isaiah 66:23 as God's holy day because God does not change. God will not force anyone to worship Him on the Sabbath as He gives us free will. We should not try to conform God to mans ways, we are to conform to God's ways. Jesus warns us about placing man's ways above God's ways and quotes directly from the Ten Commandments warning if we keep man's traditions over the commandments of God, one worships in vain. Matthew 15:3-9
 
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If you don't think the Sabbath was made for you, I find that sad, because it God's blessing for mankind to rest in Him on His holy Sabbath day.

I know the Sabbath was made for me. His name is Jesus Christ, and He is the body of the "shadow" found in Colossians 2:16-17.

Col 2:16 Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths,
Col 2:17 which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body is of the Christ;


I rest in His works on the cross of Calvary.

That is the Gospel of the New Covenant found below.

I am not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. I am come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.

Heb 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
Heb 12:19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
Heb 12:20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
Heb 12:21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

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I know the Sabbath was made for me. His name is Jesus Christ, and He is the body of the "shadow" found in Colossians 2:16-17.

Col 2:16 Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths,
Col 2:17 which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body is of the Christ;


I rest in His works on the cross of Calvary.

That is the Gospel of the New Covenant found below.

I am not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. I am come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.

Heb 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
Heb 12:19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
Heb 12:20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
Heb 12:21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

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There is no scripture that says Jesus is the Sabbath, God said the Sabbath is the seventh day in very plain language. Exodus 20:10 Jesus is not a "Shadow" either. He is our Redeemer and Savior.

Lets add context to the scripture you posted.

First you need to add context to Colossian 2:17 so lets back up


Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

You have to look at the context. There is more than one Sabbath in the scripture and if you look at Colossians 2:14 it tells you what its referring to.

Col2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

The Ten Commandments is God-written (finger of God), the law of Moses is handwritten so right there you have your proof this is not talking about any of God's Ten Commandments.

having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us

This is most certainly not referring to any of the Ten Commandments.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and His commandments are not grievous. So there appears to be a contradiction to Col 2:14 and the Ten Commandments. Since there are no contradictions in scripture, it must be referring to another law. The law of Moses was placed outside the ark of the covenant, handwritten by Moses in a book as a witness against you, Deuteronomy 31:24 God's law is not grievous 1 John 5:3. The law of Moses was added because of sin Galatians 3:19, the law of God points out sin, Romans 7:7, Romans 3:20. The law of Moses contained curses Deuteronomy 29:20-21, Galatians 3:10 and made nothing perfect Hebrews 7:19. The law of God is perfect Psalms 19:7 and brings blessings and peace Proverbs 29:18, Psalms 119:165 the law of Moses in the book of ordinances ended with Jesus being our Perfect sacrifice. Ephesians 2:15, Col 2:14-16, Hebrews 8:13 not God's law which is ETERNAL and UNCHANGING Matthew 5:17-19, Revelation 11:19


Colossians 2:14-16 is not referring to the Ten Commandments it is referring to the law of ordinances, not the COMMANDMENTS of God. Is there a sabbath(s) in the law of ordinances? Yes, and fits Colossians 2:16 as is about food and drink and holy days called sabbath(s) in scripture which has nothing to do with the commandments of God that was before sin Genesis 2:1-3 and is a memorial to God's Creation "Remember" the Sabbath day to keep holy Exodus 20:8. The sabbath(s) feast days (animal and food offerings) is what ended, Colossian 2:14 that is in the ordinances in the law of Moses, that was contrary to us and ended with Jesus as our Sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins and sanctification -See Hebrews 10 which is what Colossians 2:14-16 is referring to. Jesus became our perfect sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. The Sabbath was instituted from the very beginning Genesis 2:1-3 and is God's perfect plan before sin entered. The Sabbath is a commandment of God, which you will see throughout the entire bible we are to keep the commandments of God which of course include the 4th commandment.


The Sabbath day continues to be God's chosen day of worship for eternity: Isaiah 66:23 just like God promised Exodus 31:16
 
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