Has the Holy Spirit explicitly led you to keep the Sabbath?

[guevaraj]

Disclaimer- this is NOT a teaching of the Seventh-day Adventist church but is unique to this poster. This is what the SDA church teaches which harmonizes with scripture: The gracious Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God’s unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God’s kingdom. The Sabbath is God’s perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God’s creative and redemptive acts. (Gen. 2:1-3; Exod. 20:8-11; 31:13-17; Lev. 23:32; Deut. 5:12-15; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Ezek. 20:12, 20; Matt. 12:1-12; Mark 1:32; Luke 4:16; Heb. 4:1-11.)

Sister, happy Sabbath! The angel told us through our prophetess what we will learn after learning "what even is". We will learn "when it is"! Even (evening) falls in the middle of the first day and not as supposed at the beginning, because the Sabbath in the Promised Land is not as supposed a day of the week. God helped our church understand the longest time to make this correction by holding an incorrect hour for more than 8 years before doing the Bible study to learn more, "what even is", that she confirmed here, but there was more to learn in the future.

I saw that it is even so: “From even unto even, shall ye celebrate your Sabbath.” Said the angel: “Take the word of God, read it, understand, and ye cannot err. Read carefully, and ye shall there find what even is, and when it is.” I asked the angel if the frown of God had been upon His people for commencing the Sabbath as they had. I was directed back to the first rise of the Sabbath, and followed the people of God up to this time, but did not see that the Lord was displeased, or frowned upon them. I inquired why it had been thus, that at this late day we must change the time of commencing the Sabbath. Said the angel: “Ye shall understand, but not yet, not yet.” Said the angel: “If light come, and that light is set aside or rejected, then comes condemnation and the frown of God; but before the light comes, there is no sin, for there is no light for them to reject.” I saw that it was in the minds of some that the Lord had shown that the Sabbath commenced at six o'clock, when I had only seen that it commenced at “even,” and it was inferred that even was at six. I saw that the servants of God must draw together, press together. (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 1, Page 116)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[JLB777]

God’s will for us in heaven is not different for us on earth which is why the Sabbath is a commandment of God personally written by God’s own finger.

You keep referring back to the law of Moses. Why?

Do you sacrifice animals on each Sabbath?

If you want to go by what the law of Moses ordained for each Sabbath, then here it is —


And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering. Numbers 28:9-10



Is this how your congregation observes the Sabbath each week?






JLB

 

[JLB777]

Brother, happy Sabbath! I am grateful that this translation returned to the original and translated Hebrews 3 and 4 better than the King James Bible. The King James Bible misidentified Joshua as Jesus before David. You can't even trust the word for word translation of the King James Bible as unbiased. We have not entered God's rest in Hebrews 3 and 4 because the "good news" heard in the desert for 40 years by Joshua is not the gospel of Jesus, as the King James Bible' translators biased their translation of Hebrews 3 and 4. In the following passage, "another day" refers to a different day than the one thought for the Sabbath since Joshua: not the seventh day of the week everywhere, but the seventh day of the creation week remembered in the time zone of creation.

Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. (Hebrews 4:8 NLT)​

God gave instructions to remember the Sabbath in Jerusalem at an earlier time, from evening to evening than the seventh day of the week from morning to morning, defined in Genesis and confirmed below.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Jesus is English and Joshua is the transliteration from Hebrew.

IF you look up each Name in the original you will find they mean the same thing.


Do you sacrifice animals on each Sabbath?

If you want to go by what the law of Moses ordained for each Sabbath, then here it is —


And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering. Numbers 28:9-10



Is this how your congregation observes the Sabbath each week?






JLB

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You keep referring back to the law of Moses. Why?

Do you sacrifice animals on each Sabbath?

If you want to go by what the law of Moses ordained for each Sabbath, then here it is —


And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering. Numbers 28:9-10



Is this how your congregation observes the Sabbath each week?
JLB

Perhaps this will help. This is the Sabbath of the Ten Commandments, the law of God, personally written by God with His own finger Exodus 31:18 that same commandments thats came in a unit of Ten Exodus 34:28 which has nothing to do with the the sabbath(s) relating to food and drink offerings in the law of Moses that you keep confusing the different Sabbaths in scripture.

Here is the Sabbath in the law of God personally written by God and if you look there is nothing about food and drink offerings but everything about keeping the seventh day Sabbath holy that God told us not to forget.

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

God wants us to “Remember” which is a direct reference to Creation Genesis 2:1-3 on the very first Sabbath before sin the way God intended His people to live. This is way before the sabbath(s) feast days where animals are killed for the forgiveness of sins all pointing to Christ at the cross. The Sabbath in the Ten Commandments are eternal which is why the Sabbath continues to be the Lord’s chosen day of worship for eternity Isaiah 66:23.

Hope this helps a little.

I’m off for now- Happy Sabbath all!

 

[JLB777]

Perhaps this will help. This is the Sabbath of the Ten Commandments, the law of God, personally written by God with His own finger Exodus 31:18 that same commandments thats came in a unit of Ten Exodus 34:28 which has nothing to do with the the sabbath(s) relating to food and drink offerings in the law of Moses that you keep confusing the different Sabbaths in scripture.

Here is the Sabbath in the law of God personally written by God and if you look there is nothing about food and drink offerings but everything about keeping the seventh day Sabbath holy that God told us not to forget.

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

God wants us to “Remember” which is a direct reference to Creation Genesis 2:1-3 on the very first Sabbath before sin the way God intended His people to live. This is way before the sabbath(s) feast days where animals are killed for the forgiveness of sins all pointing to Christ at the cross. The Sabbath in the Ten Commandments are eternal which is why the Sabbath continues to be the Lord’s chosen day of worship for eternity Isaiah 66:23.

Hope this helps a little.

I’m off for now- Happy Sabbath all!

Yes, I know what the law of Moses ordains.


Please answer this simple question;


And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering. Numbers 28:9-10



Is this how you observe the Sabbath each week?



JLB

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yes, I know what the law of Moses ordains.


Please answer this simple question;


And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering. Numbers 28:9-10



Is this how you observe the Sabbath each week?



JLB

If you understood the Sabbath commandment in the law of God and that it is the holy day of our Lord thy God Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13 that is on the seventh day Sabbath and part of the Ten Commandments Exodus 20 you would not have have asked your question because I have been only referring to the Sabbath in the Ten Commandments and not the sabbath feast days you keep referring to found in the book of ordinances in the law of Moses

You keep referring back to the law of Moses. Why?

To answer your current question about animal sacrifices, my recommendation is to read Hebrews 10 where you will find your answer on why we no longer sacrifice animals for the forgiveness of sins which made nothing perfect, but the blood of Christ is perfect for the forgiveness of sins and sanctification. You seem to be confusing the different sabbaths in scripture and the old covenant with the new covenant.

Now I really must go for now. God bless!

 

[guevaraj]

Jesus is English and Joshua is the transliteration from Hebrew. IF you look up each Name in the original you will find they mean the same thing.

Brother, the Joshua before David in Hebrews 3 and 4 was the one that led the people into the Promised Land, way before David. It is this early Joshua who did not benefit from God's instructions during the 40 years in the desert about how not to enter the Sabbath by keeping the seventh day of the week with Manna near the Promised Land.

Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. (Hebrews 4:8 NLT)​

When they later changed to an earlier Sabbath from evening to evening in the Promised Land, they mistakenly assumed that it was the same Sabbath they kept with Manna from morning to morning on the seventh day of the week. They did not realize that they were keeping a Sabbath before the seventh day of the week that they kept with Manna during the 40 years in the desert that we are told in Hebrews 3 and 4 did not enter God's Sabbath near the Promised Land where it is kept before the seventh day of the week.

Do you sacrifice animals on each Sabbath? If you want to go by what the law of Moses ordained for each Sabbath, then here it is — And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering. Numbers 28:9-10. Is this how your congregation observes the Sabbath each week? JLB

It was the "animal sacrifices" that were the stand-in before Jesus that is no longer how we gain forgiveness for sin. We now turn in prayer to our High Priest in the true temple in heaven, for which the earthly temple was a stand-in "copy" for the future forgiveness of sin by Jesus in heaven. This next passage tells us two things: the animal sacrifices can "never" take away sin and sin is taken away by Jesus for "all" time, including the time when animal sacrifices were made.

Under the old covenant, the priest stands and ministers before the altar day after day, offering the same sacrifices again and again, which can never take away sins. But our High Priest offered himself to God as a single sacrifice for sins, good for all time. Then he sat down in the place of honor at God’s right hand. (Hebrews 10:11-12 NLT)​

united in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[JLB777]

If you understood the Sabbath commandment in the law of God and that it is the holy day of our Lord thy God Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13 that is on the seventh day Sabbath and part of the Ten Commandments Exodus 20 you would not have have asked your question because I have been only referring to the Sabbath in the Ten Commandments and not the sabbath feast days you keep referring to found in the book of ordinances in the law of Moses



To answer your current question about animal sacrifices, my recommendation is to read Hebrews 10 where you will find your answer on why we no longer sacrifice animals for the forgiveness of sins which made nothing perfect, but the blood of Christ is perfect for the forgiveness of sins and sanctification. You seem to be confusing the different sabbaths in scripture and the old covenant with the new covenant.

Now I really must go for now. God bless!

Let me know when you are ready to be honest and answer a simple question.


We are not under the law of Moses.

Christ Jesus is our High Priest, not the Levitical priesthood.


For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood. And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. Hebrews 7:12-16


We do not observe the Sabbath according to the law of Moses.


For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. Hebrews 7:18-19


In the New Covenant the laws and commandments are written on our heart and mind by Jesus Christ, who is the Mediator of the New Covenant.


Therefore we are to obey the law of Christ, and His Teachings and His Commandments.



And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 2:13-17




JLB

 

[JLB777]

Brother, the Joshua before David in Hebrews 3 and 4 was the one that led the people into the Promised Land, way before David. It is this early Joshua who did not benefit from God's instructions during the 40 years in the desert about how not to enter the Sabbath by keeping the seventh day of the week with Manna near the Promised Land.

Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. (Hebrews 4:8 NLT)

For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. Hebrews 4:8-10


The rest to come, of which the weekly sabbath points to as a shadow, is the rest all of God’s people will enjoy when He returns and removes all of His enemies including the devil and His angels. Then we will be at rest, and live and reign with Him for a thousand years, which is the seventh prophetic day.


So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 2:16-17





JLB

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Let me know when you are ready to be honest and answer a simple question.


We are not under the law of Moses.JLB

Do you understand the difference between the Ten Commandments and the law of Moses? Like I asked a few times now- where do you see animal sacrifices in the Sabbath Commandments that is part of the Ten Commandments written by the finger of God. Exodus 20, Exodus 31:18

I’ll post it again for your reference.

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

You never did answer or address my post about the different sabbaths in the scripture.

Christ Jesus is our High Priest, not the Levitical priesthood. JLB

Absolutely, which we can go directly to Him for the forgiveness of sins and why we no longer need to have annuals sabbath(s) of animal sacrifices found in the law of Moses in ordinances because the blood of Christ is perfect for the forgiveness of sins when we repent and turn from sin. Sin is defined breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 and the law is what points out sin Romans 3:20, Romans 7:7 and breaking one of the commandments is like breaking them all James 2:10-12 which of course includes the Sabbath commandments (4th) that God said "Remember" which does not mean to "forget" the opposite of what God commanded.

For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood. And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. Hebrews 7:12-16JLB

Notice it does not say all of the commandments of God ended and the law that ended was the Sabbath commandment. You seem to be adding this to God's Word. The law that was changed is the Priesthood. Jesus is our High Priest for the forgiveness of sin. It says so clearly in Hebrews 7 and not once mentions anything about that law being the seventh day Sabbath. We are warned about adding words to scripture. Proverbs 30:5-6

Hebrews 7:28 For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever.

We do not observe the Sabbath according to the law of Moses.JLB

We obey the commandment according to the law of God written by God's own finger. The same law that says thou shalt not worship other gods, or vain God's precious name, the same law that says thou shalt not murder, covet, or commit adultery is the same law that GOD spoke and GOD wrote says Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. You keep wanting to reduce the commandments to nine and forget the one commandment God said to remember. God wrote a covenant of Ten Exodus 34:28 and we should never try to alter something that came directly from God.

For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. Hebrews 7:18-19JLB

Maybe you didn't notice this, but this scripture does not say the Sabbath commandment that God blessed, sanctified and is holy. That sure sounds like a different law to me and it is. It's best not to add our will to scriptures and let the scriptures speak for themselves.

In the New Covenant the laws and commandments are written on our heart and mind by Jesus Christ, who is the Mediator of the New Covenant.

Absolutely which is why we see the Ten Commandments repeated for everyday Christian living

The Law of God in the New Testament.
1. "You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve" (Matthew 4:10).
2. "Little children, keep yourselves from idols" (1 John 5:21). "Since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising" (Acts 17:29).
3. "That the name of God and His doctrine may not be blasphemed" (1 Timothy 6:1).
4. "He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: 'And God rested on the seventh day from all His works.' There remains therefore a rest ["keeping of a sabbath," margin] for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His" (Hebrews 4:4, 9, 10).
the rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment Luje 23:56
5. "Honor your father and your mother" (Matthew 19:19).
6. "You shall not murder" (Romans 13:9).
7. "You shall not commit adultery" (Matthew 19:18).
8. "You shall not steal" (Romans 13:9).
9. "You shall not bear false witness" (Romans 13:9).
10. "You shall not covet" (Romans 7:7).

The Law of God in the Old Testament.
1. "You shall have no other gods before Me" (Exodus 20:3).
2. "You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments" (Exodus 20:4–6).
3. "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain" (Exodus 20:7).
4. "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it" (Exodus 20:8–11).
5. "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you" (Exodus 20:12).
6. "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13).
7. "You shall not commit adultery" (Exodus 20:14).
8. "You shall not steal" (Exodus 20:15).
9. "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" (Exodus 20:16).
10. "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's" (Exodus 20:17).

Therefore we are to obey the law of Christ, and His Teachings and His Commandments.JLB

Jesus came to do the will of the Father and came to magnify the law (which mean make greater, not lesser) and we see examples of this that Jesus quoted directly from the Ten Commandments telling us we should keep the least of the commandments. Matthew 5:19-30 Jesus often taught on the Ten Commandments quoting from them Matthew 19:17-19 and told us that we should keep God's commandments quoting directly from the Ten over traditions of man. Matthew 15:3-9, Marl 7:6-8

Homework for you:
Please show through scripture where Sunday keeping is a commandment of God and where in scripture that the Sabbath commandment was replaced by the Sunday commandment?
Please show in scripture where God blessed the first day?
Please show in scripture where God told us to keep holy the first day?
Please show in scripture where the first day is the holy day of the Lord thy God?
Please show in scripture where God sanctified the first day?
Please show in scripture we will be worshipping the Lord on the first day in heaven?
Please show any scripture of the transfers from the seventh day to the first day authorized by God or Jesus? No one has the authority to change a commandment of God written by God's own finger but Him.
Please show in scripture where Jesus as His custom went to the Temple on the first day to read God's Word?

I can save you the trouble its not there. God reserves this scripture only for the seventh day Sabbath. Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:13, Isaiah 66:23, Luke 4:16-22

For someone who quotes from the Ten Commandments on your signature Revelation 22:15 not listening to the Truth of scriptures is practicing a lie and comes with some warnings as you noted.

We are called to worship in Truth and Spirit. John 4:23-24

John 17:17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.

Ezekial 20:12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 2:13-17

JLB

Lets look through this passage in detail, which does not say the seventh day Sabbath commandment has been deleted, which you seem to be adding....

Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

You have to look at the context. There is more than one Sabbath in the scripture and if you look at Colossians 2:14 it tells you want its referring to.


Col2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;


The Ten Commandments is God-written (finger of God), the law of Moses is handwritten so right there you have your proof this is not talking about any of God's Ten Commandments.

having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us

This is most certainly not referring to any of the Ten Commandments.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and His commandments are not grievous. So there appears to be a contradiction to Col 2:14 and the Ten Commandments. Since there are no contradictions in scripture, it must be referring to another law. The law of Moses was placed outside the ark of the covenant, handwritten by Moses in a book as a witness against you, Deuteronomy 31:24 God's law is not grievous 1 John 5:3. The law of Moses was added because of sin Galatians 3:19, the law of God points out sin, Romans 7:7, Romans 3:20. The law of Moses contained curses Deuteronomy 29:20-21, Galatians 3:10 and made nothing perfect Hebrews 7:19. The law of God is perfect Psalms 19:7 and brings blessings and peace Proverbs 29:18, Psalms 119:165 the law of Moses in the book of ordinances ended with Jesus being our Perfect sacrifice. Ephesians 2:15, Col 2:14-16, Hebrews 8:13 not God's law which is ETERNAL and UNCHANGING Matthew 5:17-19, Revelation 11:19


Colossians 2:14-16 is not referring to the Ten Commandments it is referring to the law of ordinances, not the COMMANDMENTS of God. Is there a sabbath(s) in the law of ordinances? Yes, and fits Colossians 2:16 and is about food and drink and holy days called sabbath(s) in scripture which has nothing to do with the commandments of God that was before sin Genesis 2:1-3 and is a memorial to God's Creation "Remember" the Sabbath day to keep holy Exodus 20:8. The sabbath(s) feast days (animal and food offerings) is what ended, that is in the ordinances in the law of Moses, that was contrary to us and ended with Jesus as our Sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins and sanctification -See Hebrews 10 which is what Colossians 2:14-16 is referring to.

Another consideration why Colossians 2:14-16 is not referring the seventh day Sabbath

Colossians 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. The Sabbath is not a shadow of anything, it points back to Creation "Remember" the Sabbath day to keep Holy and does not point to Christ on the cross.


The Sabbath day continues to be God's chosen day of worship for eternity: Isaiah 66:23 just like God promised Exodus 31:16

And if you don't believe any the scripture I posted, Col 2:17 talks about us judging, not that the one of the commandments of God that God commanded us to Remember and keep holy has been abolished. As I stated, there is no scripture stating that the seventh day Sabbath has been changed and the first day is God's new day of worship. The first day is a tradition of man and Jesus told us to obey the commandments of God over mans traditions. Matthew 15:3-9, Mark 7:6-8. We should always seek Truth of God’s Word.

 

[Bob S]

Yes, and according to Isiah every Sabbath we will also go out and walk among the dead bodies of those who rebelled against the Word. And according to Isiah 65 in the new earth .we will do this for over 100 years and then we will die too. I wouldn't put too much faith in Isiah's account of the Heaven we are promised

 

[JLB777]

Do you understand the difference between the Ten Commandments and the law of Moses?

The Ten Commandments were part of the law of Moses.


Sabbath observance according to the law of Moses required the sacrifice of animals.

And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering. Numbers 28:9-10


Do you observe the Sabbath this way? Yes or No?


Sabbath observance according to the law of Moses required putting to death those who violated the Sabbath requirements.



Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died. Numbers 15:32-36


Do you observe the Sabbath this way? Yes or No?



If not, why?




JLB

 

[JLB777]

And if you don't believe any the scripture I posted, Col 2:17 talks about us judging, not that the one of the commandments of God that God commanded us to Remember and keep holy has been abolished.

Here is God’s command to the children of Israel who were under the law of Moses, concerning the Sabbath.


Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died. Numbers 15:32-36


Has this command of God to put to death any person who gathers sticks to make a fire on the Sabbath been abolished, or is this how the Church in the New Covenant should observe the Sabbath Commandment?




JLB

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The Ten Commandments were part of the law of Moses.


Sabbath observance according to the law of Moses required the sacrifice of animals.

And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering. Numbers 28:9-10


Do you observe the Sabbath this way? Yes or No?


Sabbath observance according to the law of Moses required putting to death those who violated the Sabbath requirements.



Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died. Numbers 15:32-36


Do you observe the Sabbath this way? Yes or No?



If not, why?




JLB

This has been answered more than once and as I showed you through scripture there is no animal sacrifices in the seventh day Sabbath commandment Exodus 20:8-11 written by God’s own finger. Exodus 31:18 You don’t seem to want an honest discussion on scripture and this repeat of your post that has been answered is non-responsive to my post. I pray we all seek Truth through the scriptures, God bless and take care

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Here is God’s command to the children of Israel who were under the law of Moses, concerning the Sabbath.


Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died. Numbers 15:32-36


Has this command of God to put to death any person who gathers sticks to make a fire on the Sabbath been abolished, or is this how the Church in the New Covenant should observe the Sabbath Commandment?




JLB

They also stoned adulterers is that commandment ended as well and we are free to commit adultery? The wages of sin is death but through the blood of Jesus in the New Covenant, we can have eternal life if we repent and turn from sin (a changed heart). Sin is defined as breaking God’s law 1 John 3:4 and the commandments of God points out sin Romans 7:7, Romans 3:20 so we know what not to break. Breaking one commandment is like breaking them all James 2:10-12. Perhaps something to pray about. Take care

 

[JLB777]

This has been answered more than once and as I showed you through scripture there is no animal sacrifices in the seventh day Sabbath commandment Exodus 20:8-11 written by God’s own finger.

Plainly the law of Moses required the children of Israel by God's Commandment to offer animal sacrifices each Sabbath.

Now the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Command the children of Israel, and say to them, ‘My offering, My food for My offerings made by fire as a sweet aroma to Me, you shall be careful to offer to Me at their appointed time.’.. And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering.
Numbers 28:1,9-10

This commandment came from the Lord and is part of the law of Moses.


Can you show the scriptures from Jesus or His Apostles that instruct the Church under the New Covenant as to how we are to observe the Sabbath today; as to how we are to "remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy"?



JLB

 

[JLB777]

They also stoned adulterers is that commandment ended as well and we are free to commit adultery?

Sexually immorality is sin in the New Testament.


He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:7-8


Can you show the scriptures from Jesus or His Apostles that instruct the Church under the New Covenant as to how we are to observe the Sabbath today; as to how we are to "remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy"?




JLB

 

[guevaraj]

The rest to come, of which the weekly sabbath points to as a shadow, is the rest all of God’s people will enjoy when He returns and removes all of His enemies including the devil and His angels. Then we will be at rest, and live and reign with Him for a thousand years, which is the seventh prophetic day.

Brother, there is no need to speculate what God meant by the word "rest" because the passage in Hebrews 3 and 4 identifies the word "rest" as a reference to the time that God rested from His work after creating the world on the seventh day of the week of creation. The word "rest" refers to the Sabbath on which they entered in the Promised Land, but not during the 40 years in the desert. In both places they kept a Sabbath, but those two Sabbaths were different. The Sabbath with Manna for 40 years in the desert did not enter God's "rest" as did the Sabbath in the Promised Land since Joshua because they were different Sabbaths: one was from morning to morning and the other from evening to evening.

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” (Hebrews 4:1-5 NLT)​

So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Colossians 2:16-17

Read on and you will see that Paul is talking about human rules and not God's rules.

You have died with Christ, and he has set you free from the spiritual powers of this world. So why do you keep on following the rules of the world, such as, “Don’t handle! Don’t taste! Don’t touch!”? Such rules are mere human teachings about things that deteriorate as we use them. These rules may seem wise because they require strong devotion, pious self-denial, and severe bodily discipline. But they provide no help in conquering a person’s evil desires. (Colossians 2:20-23 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Sexually immorality is sin in the New Testament.


He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:7-8


Can you show the scriptures from Jesus or His Apostles that instruct the Church under the New Covenant as to how we are to observe the Sabbath today; as to how we are to "remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy"?




JLB

I have answered your questions but you haven’t address anything in my posts or answered any of my questions. I will answer your new question as soon as you answer these.


Please show through scripture where Sunday keeping is a commandment of God and where in scripture that the Sabbath commandment was replaced by the Sunday commandment?
Please show in scripture where God blessed the first day?
Please show in scripture where God told us to keep holy the first day?
Please show in scripture where the first day is the holy day of the Lord thy God?
Please show in scripture where God sanctified the first day?
Please show in scripture we will be worshipping the Lord on the first day in heaven?
Please show any scripture the transfer from the seventh day to the first day authorized by God or Jesus? No one has the authority to change a commandment of God written by God's own finger but Him.
Please show in scripture where Jesus as His custom went to the Temple on the first day to read God's Word as our example?

This scripture should surely be in the Bible if one is trying to seek Truth from scripture and follow the will of God right?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Plainly the law of Moses required the children of Israel by God's Commandment to offer animal sacrifices each Sabbath.

Now the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Command the children of Israel, and say to them, ‘My offering, My food for My offerings made by fire as a sweet aroma to Me, you shall be careful to offer to Me at their appointed time.’.. And on the Sabbath day two lambs in their first year, without blemish, and two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour as a grain offering, mixed with oil, with its drink offering— this is the burnt offering for every Sabbath, besides the regular burnt offering with its drink offering.
Numbers 28:1,9-10

This commandment came from the Lord and is part of the law of Moses.


Can you show the scriptures from Jesus or His Apostles that instruct the Church under the New Covenant as to how we are to observe the Sabbath today; as to how we are to "remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy"?



JLB

Do you not understand what the Ten Commandments are? Perhaps thats the problem….as I have stated now a few times, please show me where there is food and blood sacrifices for sin in the Ten Commandments? The sabbath(s) that is the annual holy days that consists of food and drink offerings for the forgiveness of sin is not the same as the seventh day Sabbath and the holy day of the Lord thy God. Exodus 20:10 Isaiah 58:13 You keep confusing these different sabbaths. The seventh day Sabbath started right from Creation Genesis 2:1-3 and is God’s perfect plan before sin ever entered this world and before the annuals sabbath(s) feast days for the forgiveness of sin that pointed to Jesus at the cross (Col 2:14, Hebrews 10) and ended with His blood sacrifice for the forgiveness and sanctification of our sins when we repent and turn from sin. What did not end are God’s eternal Ten Commandments written by the finger of God. Which is why you see the seventh day Sabbath is the Lords chosen day of worship for all eternity Isaiah 66:23 just like God promised Exodus 31:16.

Exodus 20
The Ten Commandments

20 And God spoke all these words, saying:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that isin the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who iswithin your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”