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The Left is Rallying to Take Your Guns Again

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Do those who love their guns offer any solutions to the shooting of innocent people?
There are ways of doing it. It is important more than anything that people are watched after the fact. Background checks ( no matter how detailed they are only would work at the time of purchase. Also firearm safety course in schools would be good. (optional courses).
 
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Do you have any example of something of this sort happening in recorded history?

The founders didn't just come up with these notions off the tops of their heads. They studied history. I already provided example on page 1, in post #15, but I've read history on the this subject back as far as Ancient Greece.
 
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The founders didn't just come up with these notions off the tops of their heads. They studied history. I already provided example on page 1, in post #15, but I've read history on the this subject back as far as Ancient Greece.
I would winner that a million times if I could.
 
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I would consider that shotgun an assault rifle.

I see; so you are the deciding Authority? Good! I've come to the right place.

So I ask you again; what is the legal definition of an assault rifle?
 
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You don't like the way black folks look?
I dont like the way they look when they are stealing things.

Now, I would have said anything else, but I have seen a lot of videos of this behaviour and its always african-americans.
 
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I dont like the way they look when they are stealing things.

Now, I would have said anything else, but I have seen a lot of videos of this behaviour and its always african-americans.
so you are OK with a handgun to rob people?
 
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A. Guns save more lives than they take; prevent more injuries than they inflict

So which of these countries has sufficient guns to prevent mass shootings?

mass shootings bar graph.JPG
 
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so you are OK with a handgun to rob people?
I havent seen a handgun rob a person before. Most are upstanding appliances that are perfectly happy lying in their gun safe.
 
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The Constitution was written to protect the rights of the people, from an overreaching government. The Constitution doesn't grant any rights. It serves to protect the rights that every man is born with. At the center of those rights, is the right to defend all of his other rights, including his right to life.

Everyone is born with an unalienable right to defend himself and those under his protection. But that right does not include the right to own any weapon one may choose to own. There is no divine right to own a gun - certainly not in Catholic theology, and I doubt that it is a central belief in any other Christian theology.
 
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I havent seen a handgun rob a person before. Most are upstanding appliances that are perfectly happy lying in their gun safe.
I know. I have said that repeatedly, but it is my understanding that you said you do not like the way they look when used to rob people so does a handgun look any different when it is used for that purpose?
 
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I know. I have said that repeatedly, but it is my understanding that you said you do not like the way they look when used to rob people so does a handgun look any different when it is used for that purpose?
No, I dont think I enjoy the look of a weapon that is used to threaten people out of their belongings.

Context is an important element of aesthetics.
 
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As I mentioned earlier, if the teachers had been armed; the students wouldn't have had to.

If teachers are all armed then there will likely be many more accidental shootings by teachers, guns stolen from teachers and used against the innocent, teachers leaving the profession because they don't want to work as police officers, and it still won't protect kids from a mass shooter who enters the school and shoots the teacher first. Did you ever hear the song "There was an old lady who swallowed a fly?" Well, we are already to the point of having swallowed the cow, and we know what comes next.
 
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No, I dont think I enjoy the look of a weapon that is used to threaten people out of their belongings.
There we go. I have the same view it is not the gun. I do not care what the gun looks like.
 
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I havent seen a handgun rob a person before. Most are upstanding appliances that are perfectly happy lying in their gun safe.

Gun safe? So when I robber breaks down my door with a gun in his hand; I should say, "Dear Sir, I must apologize; but no one alerted me that you would be extending the great honor of visiting me this evening. Please be patient while I open my gun safe to prepare for your visit, as any gracious host would. Please allow me to take your coat and offer you some refreshments. My home is your home. Please make yourself comfortable; as you endure the inconvenience of this unseemly delay?"
 
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As I mentioned earlier, if the teachers had been armed; the students wouldn't have had to.
So a teacher armed with a handgun is a match for the guy with the AR. Funny, why didn't the two cops and resource officer think of that? Or, maybe they were being polite and letting the lady take the first shot?
 
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If teachers are all armed then there will likely be many more accidental shootings by teachers, guns stolen from teachers and used against the innocent, teachers leaving the profession because they don't want to work as police officers, and it still won't protect kids from a mass shooter who enters the school and shoots the teacher first. Did you ever hear the song "There was an old lady who swallowed a fly?" Well, we are already to the point of having swallowed the cow, and we know what comes next.

If teachers aren't willing to help keep children safe; maybe they shouldn't be trusted alone with them.
 
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Gun safe? So when I robber breaks down my door with a gun in his hand; I should say, "Dear Sir, I must apologize; but no one alerted me that you would be extending the great honor of visiting me this evening. Please be patient while I open my gun safe to prepare for your visit, as any gracious host would. Please allow me to take your coat and offer you some refreshments. My home is your home. Please make yourself comfortable; as you endure the inconvenience of this unseemly delay?"
Your neighborhood must be pretty bad. Ever thought of moving?
 
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So a teacher armed with a handgun is a match for the guy with the AR. Funny, why didn't the two cops and resource officer think of that? Or, maybe they were being polite and letting the lady take the first shot?

If you knew very much about firearms; you would understand that a sidearm is far more deadly, in close quarters, than a AR-15.

I already covered this AR-15s are designed to wound. Sidearms are designed for stopping power.
 
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As I mentioned earlier, if the teachers had been armed; the students wouldn't have had to.

It's not the teachers' job to be armed.

Remember, the Christian Right are the ones saying teachers can't even be trusted to make up their own lesson plans, and now they suddenly trust them with guns around students?

What if they claim it's against their religion to be armed?

How long until a linebacker punches a 5'-2" teacher in the face, knocks her out, takes her gun, and starts shooting?
 
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