Texas woman with ectopic pregnancy denied abortion

[TLK Valentine]

Rapes should be dealt with through morning after pills, preventing pregnancy rather than aborting one.

I thought life began at conception?

and they are the minority of abortions.

You misspelled "murders."

 

[Pommer]

Yes, the zygote is a person but in his or her earliest days.

So, does “Baby Molly” get to vote?

 

[HARK!]

MOD HAT ON

MOD HAT OFF​

 

[Jamdoc]

I thought life began at conception?

Conception happens in the womb, fertilization does not.
implantation happens in the womb.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Conception happens in the womb, fertilization does not.
implantation happens in the womb.

Conception and fertilization are the same thing. Implantation happens later.

 

[coffee4u]

Ectopic pregnancy absolutely does warrant abortion it's one of the rare exceptions.
You'll end up losing both mother and child otherwise.

It warrants treatment not murder of the embryo.

 

[coffee4u]

and let's be real, it was never about "my body my choice" it is, and always has been, a desire to sin without "consequence", even if it kills other people.
but what they really do, is store up more wrath for God to take out on them, unless they seek His grace through Jesus Christ.

Sin with no consequences. These people happily say to kill babies even up to birth at 40 weeks. Pure evil.

 

[comana]

It warrants treatment not murder of the embryo.

The embryo cannot be saved with this type of implantation.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The embryo cannot be saved with this type of implantation.

You think that matters to these people?

 

[Jamdoc]

It warrants treatment not murder of the embryo.

You can't treat it though, it's already embedded in the tissue of the fallopian tubes, you can remove it, but trying to get the uterus to accept it isn't going to work. There's hormonal changes that happen, it's like why many contraceptives even work, it tells the woman's body that she's already pregnant, so don't accept any other fertilized eggs cause she's already pregnant with one, or so the signalling is telling her body that she is anyway.

 

[ozso]

There is no such thing as partial birth abortion.

Technically it was called "intact dilation and extraction".

"The Supreme Court's decision to consider the constitutionality of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act has once again pushed the abortion issue into the spotlight.

The law, which was signed by President Bush in 2003 after an eight-year-long congressional fight, prohibits doctors from knowingly performing a "partial-birth abortion,""

'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin

 

[NxNW]

decades of ultrasounds 3D ultrasounds, and thousands of years of mothers experiencing fetal movements kicking, and responding to stimuli suggests they are quite alive, and having experiences, before born.

That's not an argument; that's a sentence fragment without context.

 

[NxNW]

The procedure used to remove a nonviable fetus from a fallopian tube isn't an abortion.

As Spock once said, a difference that makes no difference is no difference.

 

[ximmix]

Look, the world is starting to see the evil in abortion so the laws are finally correcting the mistake of Roe v Wade. This is the end of the line for this bad law. You can agonize over it all you want but it's not going to change the outcome. I pray your heart will someday know the Truth.

What do you mean by "the world"? Just because the Christian right has become emboldened by the Trump presidency doesn't mean that "the world" see your "Truth".

 

[ozso]

As Spock once said, a difference that makes no difference is no difference.

It's an entirely different situation and procedure.

 

[ozso]

What do you mean by "the world"? Just because the Christian right has become emboldened by the Trump presidency doesn't mean that "the world" see your "Truth".

"The world" is a biblical term for the ungodly secular portion of society.

 

[ximmix]

"The world" is a biblical term for the ungodly secular portion of society.

So it's "the ungodly secular portion of society" that "is starting to see the evil in abortion"?

 

[ozso]

So it's "the ungodly secular portion of society" that "is starting to see the evil in abortion"?

You'll have to ask Hvizsgyak that. But I imagine that's his hope.

 

[ozso]

God had a very simple plan for humanity. A man and a woman become husband and wife and have children. But mankind rebells against this simple plan. People instead get drunk and stoned, hook up with a stranger at a bar or via a hook up website like tinder or grinder and they have drunken stoned one-night-stand sex. Which likely accounts for the majority of abortions performed.

 

[coffee4u]

The embryo cannot be saved with this type of implantation.

I'm not advocating nothing should be done. If the woman's tube ruptures, the embryo dies, the woman can also die. Its a no win situation. Most pro life organization don't consider removing an ectopic pregnancy to be abortion which is "to intentionally kill that child for no medical reason".

But what research is being done into possible treatment? Nothing.
People would have said freezing embryos was impossible at one stage. Unless something is studied then of course it will always be called impossible.

The other option that should be open to those who would rather take the risk is close monitoring. If the hormones are dropping sometimes the patient will miscarry. Risky yes, but some people would rather take that risk then be wracked for a lifetime of guilt.