Russian media attitudes towards war on Ukraine (Orthodox-related)

[Homeowner]

It is true or factual imo, but I was trying to be considerate of others, which seems to be missing from some here toward me who has a different opinion of the situation.

Got to admit it was very considerate to call them alternative news so nobody actually mixes them up with actual news. Keep doing it for maximum effect.

 

[Dorothea]

Follow the Duran for up-to-date on the ground news about this. Listen to what I posted before from award winning journalists Aaron Maté and Max Blumenthal's interview with Scott Ritter. There are many good and accurate reports out there.

Go to the Duran's channel to watch more:

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDuran

 

[Homeowner]

Follow the Duran

The Duran

Overall, we rate The Duran a Questionable source based on far-right-wing bias, promotion of Russian propaganda, and right-wing conspiracies, a lack of transparency, use of poor sources plagiarism and, failed fact checks.

Founded in 2016, The Duran is a strongly right-leaning news and opinion website with ties to Russian state media. Based in Cyprus, the website’s editor is Alexander Mercouris, who in 2012 was disbarred as an attorney in London. According to the Telegraph, he then went on to become a “pro-Russian commentator on world affairs for Russian TV news outlets and websites.”

Go alternative news once again

 

[Dorothea]

Maybe you can explain to the people in Mariupol that I am wrong when I say that when the Russians show up with their butcher generals that your city is about to look like Aleppo. For now, I am staying with that assertion.

‘God has left Mariupol’: diary entries chart horror of besieged city in Ukraine

"butcher generals" is false. It was because of Russia that Syria wasn't destroyed and run by terrorists, like what happened in Libya and others. The Syrian president invited Russia to its country to help defend it. The US was on the wrong side of history on that war, butting in, arming terrorist groups. It's disgusting, and the fact that you're supporting that is disturbing. If you care about the Syrian people, you'd not be so happy about what happened there. Even Hillary Clinton admitted on MSM that we were arming terrorists in Syria. Wake up.

 

[Dorothea]

The Duran

Overall, we rate The Duran a Questionable source based on far-right-wing bias, promotion of Russian propaganda, and right-wing conspiracies, a lack of transparency, use of poor sources plagiarism and, failed fact checks.

Founded in 2016, The Duran is a strongly right-leaning news and opinion website with ties to Russian state media. Based in Cyprus, the website’s editor is Alexander Mercouris, who in 2012 was disbarred as an attorney in London. According to the Telegraph, he then went on to become a “pro-Russian commentator on world affairs for Russian TV news outlets and websites.”

Go alternative news once again

Yes, and he made amends on that. Everything is "far right-wing" and "white supremacy" (also) from the neoliberals in our government and those in power. They discredit the GrayZone (even though Aaron won an award for journalism over the Russia gate mess) too on Wikipedia. They don't like any journalists going against their favored propaganda and narrative. If you haven't figured that out by all the censoring, then I don't know what to tell you.

and for the record, the journalists at the GrayZone are classic liberals/on the left - the ones that used to be against censorship, allowed people to speak their beliefs even if they differed from their own, and were against wars.

 

[Homeowner]

If you haven't figured that out by all the censoring, then I don't know what to tell you.

I am sure you will come up with few alternative news after you sleep on it.

 

[Nick1000]

"butcher generals" is false. It was because of Russia that Syria wasn't destroyed and run by terrorists, like what happened in Libya and others. The Syrian president invited Russia to its country to help defend it. The US was on the wrong side of history on that war, butting in, arming terrorist groups. It's disgusting, and the fact that you're supporting that is disturbing. If you care about the Syrian people, you'd not be so happy about what happened there. Even Hillary Clinton admitted on MSM that we were arming terrorists in Syria. Wake up.

So, no to Mariupol looking like Aleppo? or you are saying yes it does but that's a good thing as it was in Aleppo?

 

[Dorothea]

Since Putin is doing this with his actions is he then doing the bidding of antichrist ?

Yes. His move by invading Ukraine - he was used as a tool of the antichrist to cause division between Ukraine and Russia.

 

[Dorothea]

I am sure you will come up with few alternative news after you sleep on it.

The problem is this view of everything from the right or left. That's the problem with political parties. You lose clear perspective and are obliged to follow your party. That was my experience before leaving the Republican Party back in 2009.

I don't trust either side. I live by my standards and principles that don't change by whoever is in power, Dem or Rep.

 

[Dorothea]

So, no to Mariupol looking like Aleppo? or you are saying yes it does but that's a good thing as it was in Aleppo?

And why do Russian soldiers have to continue through these places? Because the Nazis won't let Zelensky agree to peace (which is what he wants to do but can't, as I explained. He'd be a dead man). Remember, the Nazis don't care if every Ukrainian is killed. They want to gain power in Ukraine and rule, which would be devastating.

 

[Dorothea]

Got to admit it was very considerate to call them alternative news so nobody actually mixes them up with actual news. Keep doing it for maximum effect.

Thanks for your condescending tone toward me. Appreciate the reciprocation of consideration. You and others here can continue on with blind one-sidedness in this war that is never that B&W in the real world.

 

[Homeowner]

Yes. His move by invading Ukraine - he was used as a tool of the antichrist to cause division between Ukraine and Russia.

Putin, tool of the antichrist. Oh well sure let's run with that. Of course instead of past tense he still is one since he keeps the fighting and atrocities going.

Does this mean we aren't going to defend tool of antichrist and his war in future posts ?

 

[Nick1000]

And why do Russian soldiers have to continue through these places?

That's straight out of the Putin Playbook. Russia is liberating the Ukrainian's and they should be thankful.

Let's see how many people show up for a Victory Day parade in Mariupol to thank the Russians for liberating them.

Butchers.

 

[Dorothea]

Putin, tool of the antichrist. Oh well sure let's run with that. Of course instead of past tense he still is one since he keeps the fighting and atrocities going.

Does this mean we aren't going to defend tool of antichrist and his war in future posts ?

I used the wrong term. Putin's actions were driven by the evil one.

 

[Dorothea]

Putin, tool of the antichrist. Oh well sure let's run with that. Of course instead of past tense he still is one since he keeps the fighting and atrocities going.

Does this mean we aren't going to defend tool of antichrist and his war in future posts ?

We are going to be praying for peace because if this continues, there won't be any Ukraine left due to Russia having to destroy all the Nazis, and the Nazis wanting to take over ruling Ukraine completely. Have a nice day.

 

[Homeowner]

We are going to be praying for peace because if this continues, there won't be any Ukraine left due to Russia having to destroy all the Nazis, and the Nazis wanting to take over ruling Ukraine completely. Have a nice day.

So it is now Nazis fighting against tool of antichrist ?

Gee, does that make them good guys now ?

This narrative is interesting, but probably won't be shown in Russian media.

 

[Platina]

It is on public record.

Treaty of Versailles - Wikipedia

"Of the many provisions in the treaty, one of the most important and controversial was: "The Allied and Associated Governments affirm and Germany accepts the responsibility of Germany and her allies for causing all the loss and damage to which the Allied and Associated Governments and their nationals have been subjected as a consequence of the war imposed upon them by the aggression of Germany and her allies." The other members of the Central Powers signed treaties containing similar articles.

This article, Article 231, became known as the War Guilt clause. The treaty required Germany to disarm, make ample territorial concessions, and pay reparations to certain countries that had formed the Entente powers. In 1921 the total cost of these reparations was assessed at 132 billion gold marks (then $31.4 billion or £6.6 billion, roughly equivalent to US$442 billion or UK£284 billion in 2022).

Prominent economists such as John Maynard Keynes declared the treaty too harsh—a "Carthaginian peace"—and said the reparations were excessive and counter-productive. On the other hand, prominent Allied figures such as French Marshal Ferdinand Foch, criticized the treaty for treating Germany too leniently. This is still the subject of ongoing debate by historians and economists.

The result of these competing and sometimes conflicting goals among the victors was a compromise that left no one satisfied. In particular, Germany was neither pacified nor conciliated, nor was it permanently weakened."

Ah, interesting. So even though Nazi Germany was a terrible, damnable phenomenon, people still take the time to learn what led to it, even from the German POV? How curious.

 

[Platina]

Yes. His move by invading Ukraine - he was used as a tool of the antichrist to cause division between Ukraine and Russia.

YOURE JUST A RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA SPOUTING STOOOOOGE!

 

[Dorothea]

btw, Rus, your questioning on are there any real misogynists. We've found one in this thread who directed me to only speak if my abusive ex-husband allows me to. Obviously this is not the place for me.

 

[archer75]

And why do Russian soldiers have to continue through these places? Because the Nazis won't let Zelensky agree to peace (which is what he wants to do but can't, as I explained. He'd be a dead man). Remember, the Nazis don't care if every Ukrainian is killed. They want to gain power in Ukraine and rule, which would be devastating.

Dorothea, I appreciate your contributions to this board, but regarding these matters, you are following lies.