New Interpretation of the bible

[Carl Emerson]

I can't think of a single Mormon involved in a morality scandal.

The Mormon movement split down the middle over polygamy.

Many in the movement went to Mexico to dodge the law and continue with multiple wives.

 

[SkyWriting]

The Mormon movement split down the middle over polygamy.

Many in the movement went to Mexico to dodge the law and continue with multiple wives.

The scriptures promote multiple partners, but I don't.
Man must obey local law as that is God's will for man.
Jesus said that.

 

[pescador]

The scriptures promote multiple partners, but I don't.
Man must obey local law as that is God's will for man.
Jesus said that.

Where exactly do the scriptures promote multiple partners? Even though some in the OT had more than one wife that doesn't hold true in the NT. It's definitely not "promoted".

1 Timothy 3:2, "The overseer then must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, an able teacher"

Tityus 1:6, "An elder must be blameless, the husband of one wife, with faithful children who cannot be charged with dissipation or rebellion."

 

[EarlDumarest]

Many 'new' Bibles are worded to support the Churches Dogma...

 

[Jesusthekingofking]

Many 'new' Bibles are worded to support the Churches Dogma...

yes

can you name few example?

 

[Valletta]

Hi @Jesusthekingofking

While I agree that as a born again believer we must be very careful as to what and who we believe is telling us the truth about God. However, 'new' interpretations of the Scriptures have been around since the advent of the formal RCC organization and even earlier. They have dozens of 'interpretations' that are nowhere found in the Scriptures, but they approve of them because they fully in their hearts believe that their formal organization has the ability and authority to interpret what the Scriptures are saying. They also believe in their hearts that the organization itself, through proclamations of various sorts, has the same authority as the Scriptures.

While we all may gain a deeper understanding of the Word of God, the Word of God does not change. Individual Catholics are free to interpret Biblical passages within the teachings of the Catholic Church as passed down from Jesus through the Apostles.
The number of times the Catholic Church has formally stated specific interpretations on Biblical text within the almost 2000 years of Church history is in the single digits. Many times Church pronouncements are due to certain heresies which may become popular. Jesus gave no authority to a book, on earth He gave the keys of the kingdom (authority) to the first pope. The Bible is the book of the Catholic Church, not the other way around. It is Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition which have equal weight -- the teachings of Jesus as passed down through the Apostles whether written or oral. Giving authority to a book is a manmade tradition, the Bible itself says nothing about such authority. T

 

[Jesusthekingofking]

While we all may gain a deeper understanding of the Word of God, the Word of God does not change. Individual Catholics are free to interpret Biblical passages within the teachings of the Catholic Church as passed down from Jesus through the Apostles.
The number of times the Catholic Church has formally stated specific interpretations on Biblical text within the almost 2000 years of Church history is in the single digits. Many times Church pronouncements are due to certain heresies which may become popular. Jesus gave no authority to a book, on earth He gave the keys of the kingdom (authority) to the first pope. The Bible is the book of the Catholic Church, not the other way around. It is Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition which have equal weight -- the teachings of Jesus as passed down through the Apostles whether written or oral. Giving authority to a book is a manmade tradition, the Bible itself says nothing about such authority. T

allowed to read but have to follow the interpretation of the church, you mean a limited group of people?

 

[SkyWriting]

Where exactly do the scriptures promote multiple partners? Even though some in the OT had more than one wife that doesn't hold true in the NT.

Who in the OT had multiple wives that nobody ever condemned?

• Abdon
• 2 Abijah
• 3 Abram / Abraham
• 4 Ahab
• 5 Ahasuerus
• 6 Ashur
• 7 Belshazzar
• 8 Ben-hadad
• 9 Caleb
• 10 David
• 11 Eliphaz
• 12 Elkanah
• 13 Esau
• 14 Ezra
• 15 Gideon

 

[SkyWriting]

Where exactly do the scriptures promote multiple partners?

David

 

[Valletta]

allowed to read but have to follow the interpretation of the church, you mean a limited group of people?

I mean the Church has rarely given a former interpretation of a Bible passage. Catholics could not teach against those interpretations or any of the tenets of the Catholic Church, such as believing in the Holy Trinity. It would be wrong to say I interpret the Bible as saying God is four persons. But there is no wrong in my interpretation of whether the Mother of God ever died.

 

[klutedavid]

Jw, Mormonism start with Just those for now what branch from scripture would I get from them ?

They teach the same, fundamental doctrines as many church denominations teach.

1) Our church is the one true church, the other church movements are deceived.
2) We have a number of significant doctrines, that you must agree too, in order to undergo baptism in our church.
3) You should only fellowship with the brethren from our church.
4) We have our own eschatology.
5) Sometimes we have our own unique Bible translation.
6) If you leave our church you are disconnected from Jesus.

On and on it goes.

 

[klutedavid]

We all know Mormons are considered a cult. My response being that they seem more in line with Christian ethics than most Christian groups are.

I've offered you no sarcasm of any kind.

But Christianity is based on just one word, LOVE.
Christian ethics is a distraction from the fundamental doctrines of Christianity.

 

[klutedavid]

Are you kidding me? Jesus taught and setup the apostles to spread the gospel, if you disapprove their teaching you're not really a Christian, unless you live the same age with jesus and he taught you directly

The apostles were taught by the Holy Spirit. Paul always wrote under the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Paul never walked with Jesus. Paul on occasion had to correct Peter.

 

[Valletta]

The apostles were taught by the Holy Spirit. Paul always wrote under the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Paul never walked with Jesus. Paul on occasion had to correct Peter.

Indeed, many saints over the centuries have corrected popes.

 

[messianist]

They teach the same, fundamental doctrines as many church denominations teach.
All these different denominations teach differently, you only have to be on This site for 5 minutes and speaking on one scripture, you can see clearly nothing is a cross the board
1) Our church is the one true church, the other church movements are deceived.
2) We have a number of significant doctrines, that you must agree too, in order to undergo baptism in our church.
3) You should only fellowship with the brethren from our church.
4) We have our own eschatology.
5) Sometimes we have our own unique Bible translation.
6) If you leave our church you are disconnected from Jesus.

On and on it goes.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Ever since protestantism exist there are so many new interpretation or so called system taught by multiple "teachers"

It's hard to discern. Calvinisms don't exist in the early church, dispensationalism was another alien system. Was so many Christians accept these teaching which the early church never taught? The early church isn't perfect, they're also trying at their time, but if something new came up after 1600 yrs I would question why the early theologian don't see the so-called light in the Bible.

If there's no new interpretation there's no new revelation, there's only false teaching. The reformation theology isn't trying to invent new doctrine but go back to the original teaching or form of the church.

friend, if what you wrote is true the Reformation than you should be able to go to NewAdvent.org and find quotes from the early church fathers to prove that. The Reformers were well read in the early church fathers. You need only look at Calvin's quotes to see that. Augustine taught some of the things Calvin did.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

It's also significant that a number of the "modern" revisions of doctrine have their roots in early heresies that were specifically condemned. Surely the increase in liberal theology is one of the signs we're in some stage of the End Times.

The Orthodox make the valid point that the supposed sola scriptura of Protestantism has resulted in thousands, if not tens of thousands, of competing understandings of Scripture. Sola scriptura ends up really being "my understanding of Scripture" versus "your understanding of Scripture" versus "their understanding of Scripture."

There is a branch of Protestantism called "paleo-orthodoxy" that, like Orthodoxy, focuses primarily on the Apostolic and Early Church Fathers as well as Scripture. Thomas C. Oden was one of the leading exponents. His Classic Christianity is one of the better systematic theologies I have found: Classic Christianity: A Systematic Theology: Oden, Thomas C.: 9780061449710: Amazon.com: Books.

"The Orthodox make the valid point that the supposed sola scriptura of Protestantism has resulted in thousands, if not tens of thousands, of competing understandings of Scripture. "

Please list them friend.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

There are over 46 thousand denominations in the world, all believe they have the truth.

The exaggerated number of denominations is based on a poor source that says there are over a hundred catholic church denominations. That source considers the catholic church in different nations to be a denomination of the Catholic Church. Even Catholic Apologetists exposed that claim.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

No they don’t all have the truth there all stating different things .

Please list each different teachings. Calvin vs Free Will will give you at most five.

Dispensationalism vs Covenant theology will give you what two?

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Where in scripture does it state that different branches cover different scriptures?

I am guessing you believe that your interpretations of scripture are without error? or am I misreading or misunderstanding you?