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Adam and Eve were only given one commandment, and it did not involve the Sabbath.
As posted earlier according to the scriptures, Jesus (not me) says that the Sabbath was made for all mankind. There was no Moses, no Jews, no Israel, no sin and no plan of salvation for mankind because mankind never sinned, therefore no Mosaic "shadow laws" when God made the Sabbath for all mankind on the "seventh day" of the creation week *Genesis 2:1-3. There was only Adam and Eve created on the "sixth day" of the creation week made in the image of God *Genesis 1:26-31. If Jesus says that the Sabbath was made for mankind and there was only Adam and Eve when God made the Sabbath for mankind. It is presumption on your part to state otherwise.
 
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Gen 2:1-3 - there we have the Sabbath for mankind - how many "rituals" do you see there?

Is 66:23 says "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" in the New Earth for all eternity after the cross - how many of the rituals that you listed do you think exist in the New Earth?

Heb 10 says that all sacrifices and offering end at the cross - how many rituals did you list - that are not animal sacrifices and offerings?

No wonder both the "Baptist confession of Faith - section 19" and the "Westminster Confession of Faith - Section 19" freely admit that the Sabbath Commandment (in fact all TEN of the commandments) continue on even without animal sacrifices and grain offerings.

Never mind what Baptists & other denominations think... Let's study God's word with a spirit that is looking to learn & not because we grew up in Adventism, where we must always defend our faith even when we are in error.

So if you say the sacrifices died at the cross, how come the law has managed to live on, till this day with Adventists? Is it because you're afraid that, if we say the law died as well, it would then mean that it is now okay to steal, kill & ignore the Sabbath? You know what would do you good? For once just seriously think of your own salvation and start searching the scriptures in spirit & in truth, without looking at where Mrs White stands in all of this. It's the straight word of God that we need here and not a set of spirit of prophecy books....
 
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Never mind what Baptists & other denominations think... Let's study God's word with a spirit that wants to learn & not because we grew up in Adventism, where we must always defend our faith even when we are in error.

So if you say the sacrifices died at the cross, how come the law has managed to live on, till this day with Adventists? Is it because you're afraid that, if we say the law died as well, it would then mean that it is now okay to steal, kill & ignore the Sabbath? You know what would do you good? For once just seriously think of your own salvation and start searching the scriptures in spirit & in truth, without looking at where Mrs White stands in all of this. It's the straight word of God that we need here and not a set of spirit of prophecy books....

I never grew up in Adventism. Here is my testimony here if your interested...

MY TESTIMONY – GOD’S SPIRIT IS TO BE OUR GUIDE AND TEACHER

I did not go to Church to find God. I began reading Gods' Word for myself at home before I ever thought about going to any Church. As I continued reading Gods' Word asking for God's guidance, my life changed forever, when I came to first know Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior for my sins. I read through Gods' Word that all of us have sinned *Romans 3:9-23 and that sin according to the scriptures was breaking anyone of Gods' 10 commandments and not believing and following what Gods' Word says in Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4.

I did not know much about the Sabbath at this stage but intellectually I believed Gods Word but it was not my experience. I had a knowledge of what sin was from the scriptures and that according to the scriptures breaking God's law was sin and all of us had sinned therefore I was a sinner. I prayed and asked God to forgive me and repented from my sins in my heart and decided to follow God through His Word. Most of this was in my mind but I did not realize to some time latter that this was never my experience. From this point forward I think God was teaching me that the more I tried to follow His Word the more he was showing me that I could not obey His Words and the more I saw myself as a sinner unable to do what God wanted me to do.

It was through Gods' law that I saw that I was a sinner under God's condemnation and death there was nothing that I could ever hope to do to save myself. The more I tried to keep Gods law the more I saw myself condemned by the law (Romans 7) until one day this experience as painful as it was brought me to the foot of the cross crying out "Oh wrteched man that I am who shall deliver me from this body of death?" (Romans 7:24). It was here looking up at the cross where I saw Jesus in my mind and heard His Word to me "the just shall live by faith." Faith in what?

I saw for the first time Jesus shedding His blood for my sins so that I could receive God's forgiveness. He gave me His life when all I had was death and by His stripes I saw for the first time I was healed. Not because of anything I had done but because He loved me and gave himself for me. This is where Gods' Law brought me. It brought me to Christ so that all I could so is call out "Lord have mercy on me a sinner". Then I looked up and could see, and my eyes were opened for the first time see Jesus dying for my sins even me, so that I could be reconciled to God. This is where my whole life changed and that change took place as I was seeking Him through his Words and believed them. This is where Gods' law brought me so that I could understand the words of Jesus in Matthew 9:12-13 for the first time.

I was not brought up in the SDA Church. I never knew anything about it or did I know anything about it when I was in the world. I became SDA some time latter after finding it through the scriptures of Gods' Word. I did not find God's Word either by EGW or any other book. I started reading the bible after not knowing about God living in the world. Although when I was very young I went to Sunday school.

When I was reading the bible one day I came across some scripture that troubled me.

The scriptures were talking about the last days just before Jesus returned and it said that in these last days there will be many false prophets and false Christs that if it was possible they shall deceive Gods' very elect (Matthew 24:24). At the time I read these scriptures I was not going to any Church.

I was just reading my bible at home but they troubled me very much at that time I remember because I was thinking of going out to join a Church somewhere but I did not know which one. When I read these scriptures in Matthew 24:24 I believe God showed me their interpretation at that time as in the last days before He returns there would be many false prophets being messengers or teachers claiming they were from God that have false teachings and that the false Christs represented false Christian Churches (e.g. Christ being the head of the body which is the church - Ephesians 5:23; Colossians 1:18) and that many would be lost by following what these Churches were teachings.

Then as I was considering these scriptures one day, I believe God showed me all the Churches of the world all professing to be the chosen ones of God. Today in a recent consensus I remember reading that there is today somewhere around 30-40,000 different Churches all professing to be Gods true Church that have the truth of Gods' Word? Now I do no know how true those figures are but to me even if there was 20 churches all professing to be Gods' true Church that is 19 too many right?

So I was troubled because I did not want to follow false teachings and be lost to God. I prayed to God saying dear God help me. How am I going to know who your true Church is? I barely know your word and how am I ever going to find who your true Church is? I wanted to follow God but I knew I was never going to find Him if he did not help me and if he did not help me it would be impossible for me to find the truth of His Word. Looking back now with tears in my eyes I see how God answered my prayers and was with me guiding me and teaching me through His Word.

Not long after I prayed to God, as I was continuing reading His Word I came across some promises from His Word that really helped me to have believe God was leading and guiding me. These promises seemed to speak to me again just like the scripture from Matthew 24:24 that troubled me into thinking how am I ever going to know the truth of God's Word?

These scriptures that really spoke to me next were...

John 14:26 [26], But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I have said to you.
John 16:13 [13], However, when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
John 7:17 [17], If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
John 8:31-32 [31], Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed, [32], And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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When I read these scriptures, it was like God knew my thoughts and how I was feeling and was talking to me through his Word personally. I now had hope and was happy and relieved that God promises to be my guide and teacher to help me to know the truth of His Word and that I did not need to be worried if I trusted Him about being deceived into not knowing what His truth is. I knew I had a part to play and that was to seek Him and claim His promises through His Word (John 8:31-36).

I started claiming His promises above as I was reading His Word and slowly but surely started learning more of His Word. I asked God, praying dear God thank you for these promises but who is your true Church? I know I cannot find who your true Church is unless you guide me and teach me and show me who they are?

I continued over some time reading God's Word and found these scriptures which seemed to stay with me that seemed to describe who Gods Church was according to the scriptures here...

[1.] God’s people are described as God’s sheep that hear believe and follow Gods Word *John 10:26-27
[2.] God’s people are described as God’s saints that keep the commandments of God and the faith or teachings of Jesus *Revelation 14:12.
[3.] God’s people are described as those who the dragon (devil) is making war with because they keep the commandments of God *Revelation 12:17
[4.] God’s people are described as having the testimony of JESUS which is the Spirit of Prophecy. They know the end day prophecies *Revelation 19:10
[5.] God’s people are described as being blessed because they washed their robes in the blood of the lamb *1 Peter 1:18-19; Revelation 7:14; Revelation 12:11; Revelation 22:14
[6.] God’s people are described as being blessed because they keep Gods commandments and receive eternal life *Revelation 22:14
[7.] God’s people are described as being born again and do not practice sin (breaking Gods’ commandments) *1 John 3:6-9
[8.] The different between the children of God and the children of the devil is that the children of God do not practice sin (breaking God’s commandments) and the children of the devil do *1 John 3:6-10.

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The question we all must consider is how do we know we know God and are Gods saints according to the scriptures? Well Gods saints are in every Church who are living up to all the light of the knowledge of Gods’ Word that God has revealed to them and in times of ignorance when we do not know any better God winks at but when God gives us a knowledge of His Word he calls all men everywhere to believe and follow it *Acts of the Apostles 17:30-31; James 4:17.

Many do not know that the religious teachers of the world of fallen away from God’s Word in order to follow man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God. BABYLON is described as being fallen. The mother church and her daughters *Revelation 14:8; Revelation 17:1-5. She has changed times and law *Danial 7:25 and supplanted her own day of worship for which there is no scripture in place of God’s 4th commandment which is one of God’s 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4.

God has his people in all of these Church’s and is calling his people out of Babylon from following the traditions and teachings of men back to the pure Word of God. *Revelation 18:1-5. The hour is coming and now is that the true worshipers will worship God in Spirit and in truth. God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth. *John 10:16; John 4:23-24.

What is the test to know if we know God?

1 John 2:3-4 [3], And HEREBY WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. [4], HE THAT SAITH, I KNOW HIM, AND KEEPETH NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM

In times of ignorance God winks at but when he gives us a knowledge of the truth of his Word calls all men everywhere to believe and follow. God’s sheep hear His voice (the Word) and follow it.

...............

SUMMARY: I became a Sabbath keeper and SDA because I believe God guided me to this Church through His Word and this is my personal experience and testimony! God's Church through faith according to the scriptures keep all the commandments of God not some of them according to the scriptures and this is the difference between 99% of all the Churches of the Word. - YES the Sabbath of God's 4th commandment! 99% of the Churches of the Word are not following God's Word. God is calling His people out to return to His Word and follow Him in Spirit and in truth *Revelation 18:4

Hope this is helpful

Take Care.
 
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BobRyan said:
Gen 2:1-3 - there we have the Sabbath for mankind Mark 2:27 - how many "rituals" do you see there?

Is 66:23 says "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship" in the New Earth for all eternity after the cross - how many of the rituals that you listed do you think exist in the New Earth?

Heb 10 says that all sacrifices and offering end at the cross - how many rituals did you list - that are not animal sacrifices and offerings?

Now in this next part of that post - the point is made that the Bible details above are not so secretive that only Sabbath keeping Christians would "notice". It goes like this

BobRyan said:

No wonder both the "Baptist confession of Faith - section 19" and the "Westminster Confession of Faith - Section 19" freely admit that the Sabbath Commandment (in fact all TEN of the commandments) continue on even without animal sacrifices and grain offerings.

Never mind what Baptists & other denominations think... Let's study God's word with a spirit that is looking to learn

So that was the first part of my post above.

not because we grew up in Adventism, where we must always defend our faith

Pretty hard to argue that the scholars that wrote out the "Baptist confession of Faith - section 19" and the "Westminster Confession of Faith - Section 19" and freely admit that the Sabbath Commandment (in fact all TEN of the commandments) continue on even without animal sacrifices and grain offerings --- had all "GROWN UP IN ADVENTISM" :) -- so I can see why you might wish to skim over that detail.

So if you say the sacrifices died at the cross, how come the law has managed to live on,

"Do we then nullify the Law of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the LAW" Rom 3:31
Where the Law includes the TEN having "Honor your father and mother as the first command WITH a promise" Eph 6:2
No wonder then "The saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12

No wonder Paul can write "What matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19

IN your post you claim "I SAY" Hebrews 10 but in fact I did not write Hebrews 10.

Heb 10:
4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. 5 Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says,
“You have not desired sacrifice and offering,
But You have prepared a body for Me;
6 You have not taken pleasure in whole burnt offerings and offerings for sin.
7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come
(It is written of Me in the scroll of the book)
To do Your will, O God.’”
8 After saying above, Sacrifices and offerings and whole burnt offerings and offerings for sin You have not desired, nor have You taken pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the Law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will.” He takes away the first in order to establish the second.

No wonder almost all of the non-Sabbath keeping Bible scholarship in almost all Christian denominations admits to this obvious detail
 
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Yup to you both Bobryan & LoveGodsword, please let us keep searching God's word diligently, as we are now. I will be completely honest with you, regarding my understanding of the Sabbath issue, according to the scriptures. I disagree with the idea of observing the law, which was done away with at the cross. It is the one behind the shadow that we should now be chasing after and yet we still continue to chase after the shadow. If the law isn't dead yet, then we cannot marry Jesus, it is as simple as that...
 
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Yup to you both Bobryan & LoveGodsword, please let us keep searching God's word diligently, as we are now. I will be completely honest with you, regarding my understanding of the Sabbath issue, according to the scriptures. I disagree with the idea of observing the law, which was done away with at the cross. It is the one behind the shadow that we should now be chasing after and yet we still continue to chase after the shadow. If the law isn't dead yet, then we cannot marry Jesus, it is as simple as that...

The saints are those who keep God’s commandments. Revelation 12:17, Revelation 14:12, Revelation 22:14.

Jesus would never need to have died for us, if we are free to sin.

The greatest deception from Satan who deceives the whole world is believing we are free to sin. Who do you think wants us to sin? The Bible tells us this answer.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Jesus said, if you love Me, keep My commandments John 14:15 and this is all of the commandments of God Matthew 5:19. We are blessed when we keep the commandments Revelation 22:14 and lost for those who has not repented from their sins Revelation 22:15

We are given this warning Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

This idea that we can sin freely because Jesus died for our sins is not biblical. Jesus died so we can be forgiven when we repent. True repentance means turning from sin and walking in the Spirit who is given for those who obey. John 14:15-18, Acts 5:32

God’s laws includes God’s Ten Commandment that God personally wrote with His own finger, personally spoke with His own voice to a whole Nation and kept in the ark of The Covenant in the Most Holy of God’s Temple, which is revealed to be also in Heaven Revelation 11:19

I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart. Psalms 40:8

God bless
 
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Sadly, neither yourself nor any other SDA, including Mrs. White, have kept God's commandments, nor have they ever been actually capable of doing it.
I have never met you, so how would you know what I do or what over 20 million people does? We are told Jesus is our righteous Judge, so I would leave that job in His Hands

God would not ask us to do something we are not capable of. We don't have to do it all on our own either for those who want to obey. We are given the Holy Spirit to help us obey John 14:15-18 and to those who do obey. Acts 5:32

If we could not keep God's commandments it would be written in scripture, but we are told God's commandments are not burdensome 1 John 5:3 and are told God's saints do keep the commandments of God. Revelation 14:12 We should trust the bible. We can gain victory over sin. That doesn't mean if we stumble and fall, we don't have an Advocate with Jesus when we repent, but living in perpetual sin has some warnings and we don't want Jesus to come and tell us He does not know us.

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
 
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I have never met you, so how would you know what I do or what over 20 million people does? We are told Jesus is our righteous Judge, so I would leave that job in His Hands

God would not ask us to do something we are not capable of. We don't have to do it all on our own either for those who want to obey. We are given the Holy Spirit to help us obey John 14:15-18 and to those who do obey. Acts 5:32

If we could not keep God's commandments it would be written in scripture, but we are told God's commandments are not burdensome 1 John 5:3 and are told God's saints do keep the commandments of God. Revelation 14:12 We should trust the bible. We can gain victory over sin. That doesn't mean if we stumble and fall, we don't have an Advocate with Jesus when we repent, but living in perpetual sin has some warnings and we don't want Jesus to come and tell us He does not know us.

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

It is actually quite straightforward. The SDA embraces only ten of the commandments given by God in the Old Testament. I have yet to encounter a single SDA who advocates obedience to all of the Sabbath commandments of the Old Testament. Thus, it is a fiction to assert that the SDA obeys all of God's commandments.
 
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It is actually quite straightforward. The SDA embraces only ten of the commandments given by God in the Old Testament. I have yet to encounter a single SDA who advocates obedience to all of the Sabbath commandments of the Old Testament. Thus, it is a fiction to assert that the SDA obeys all of God's commandments.

What does Hebrews 10 mean to you? Do you still offer food and animals sacrifices and what scripture do we have that says we need to in the New Covenant? Where in the Sabbath commandment does it say there are food and animal sacrifices?

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

I would suggest not to speak for the SDA members, because we embrace all of the commandments of God in the New Covenant which of course includes God’s Ten that is written in our hearts and minds. Hebrews 8:10, Jer. 31:33

To be honest, I would be less concerned what other people are doing and more concerned about following the Word of God and the commandments of God as given to all of us. We will not be judged based on what others are or are not doing, we all will stand before the righteous judgement of Jesus based on our own doings. 2 Corinthians 5:10
 
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I have never met you, so how would you know what I do or what over 20 million people does? We are told Jesus is our righteous Judge, so I would leave that job in His Hands

God would not ask us to do something we are not capable of. We don't have to do it all on our own either for those who want to obey. We are given the Holy Spirit to help us obey John 14:15-18 and to those who do obey. Acts 5:32

If we could not keep God's commandments it would be written in scripture, but we are told God's commandments are not burdensome 1 John 5:3 and are told God's saints do keep the commandments of God. Revelation 14:12 We should trust the bible. We can gain victory over sin. That doesn't mean if we stumble and fall, we don't have an Advocate with Jesus when we repent, but living in perpetual sin has some warnings and we don't want Jesus to come and tell us He does not know us.

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
It's very easy to tell someone who doesn't keep God's law because they follow the "letter of the law" and boast about it...1Corinthians 4:7...And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

1Timothy 1:7..they want to be teachers of the law but they do not know what they are talking about....
 
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It's very easy to tell someone who doesn't keep God's law because they follow the "letter of the law" and boast about it...1Corinthians 4:7...And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

1Timothy 1:7..they want to be teachers of the law but they do not know what they are talking about....
Pasifika,

I think only God knows how I obey or not obey. God is the only one who knows each of our thoughts and feelings, so it’s probably best to let Him be our judge.

If you want to quote something you disagree with from the scripture I posted, please feel free to do so. Our opinions don’t really matter here. Following God’s Word is what matters.
 
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Pasifika,

I think only God knows how I obey or not obey. God is the only one who knows each of our thoughts and feelings, so it’s probably best to let Him be our judge.

If you want to quote something you disagree with from the scripture I posted, please feel free to do so. Our opinions don’t really matter here. Following God’s Word is what matters.
I disagree with your teachings of following God's law by the "letter of the law" (10 commandments )..

We are serving God through a "new way" of the Spirit Not the old way of the "letter"..

Romans 7:6..we have been released from the law so that we serve in the "new way" of the SPIRIT, not in the "old way" of the "written code"...

2Corinthians 3:6..He has made us competent as ministers of a "New covenant" Not of the "letter" BUT of the "Spirit" for the "letter" KILLS, BUT the "Spirit" gives LIFE...
 
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Sadly, neither yourself nor any other SDA, including Mrs. White, have kept God's commandments, nor have they ever been actually capable of doing it.


Hi bbbbbbb,

Jesus says sin no more.
John says not to sin.
Paul says stop sinning.
Peter says stop sinning.
Sinners don't have to sin.

So tell me, aside from Jesus, which one of these other three was ever "actually capable of doing it"?

God bless!

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
 
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What does Hebrews 10 mean to you? Do you still offer food and animals sacrifices and what scripture do we have that says we need to in the New Covenant? Where in the Sabbath commandment does it say there are food and animal sacrifices?

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

I would suggest not to speak for the SDA members, because we embrace all of the commandments of God in the New Covenant which of course includes God’s Ten that is written in our hearts and minds. Hebrews 8:10, Jer. 31:33

To be honest, I would be less concerned what other people are doing and more concerned about following the Word of God and the commandments of God as given to all of us. We will not be judged based on what others are or are not doing, we all will stand before the righteous judgement of Jesus based on our own doings. 2 Corinthians 5:10

The fact is that the SDA does not obey the commandments of God. It never has and probably never will. Although much is made about keeping the Sabbath, when it comes down to the nitty gritty, none of the Sabbath commandments given by God Himself is considered worthy of obedience. In their place is substituted nineteenth-century Protestant American religious customs.
 
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I disagree with your teachings of following God's law by the "letter of the law" (10 commandments )..

We are serving God through a "new way" of the Spirit Not the old way of the "letter"..

Romans 7:6..we have been released from the law so that we serve in the "new way" of the SPIRIT, not in the "old way" of the "written code"...

2Corinthians 3:6..He has made us competent as ministers of a "New covenant" Not of the "letter" BUT of the "Spirit" for the "letter" KILLS, BUT the "Spirit" gives LIFE...

Please quote me where I have ever stated that we should only follow God's laws by the letter. If you can't quote me saying than you can't speak for me, you can only speak for yourself, so I would like to kindly ask you to not put words in my mouth that was never stated.

According to scripture, you cannot keep the Spirit of God's laws by breaking the letter. If you think you are in the Spirit but are sinning (breaking the law of God) 1 John 3:4, Romans 3:20, Romans 7:7 according to scripture you are not following God but following a different spirit. 1 John 3:8

We are given the Spirit when we obey God's laws John 14:15-18, Acts 5:32, not when we disobey. We all have time now to repent and turn from our sins and obey God, but no one knows when Jesus is coming back, so it's probably best we ask Jesus today to give us the Spirit, so we can obey today. When Jesus comes back we don't want Him to say He does not know us Matthew 7:23, but instead we should want to be called one of His saints. Revelation 14:12

God knows the reasons why we obey Him or not obey Him or if we obey, so let's let the judging be up to who is worthy and not judge each other. Pointing out scripture is a lot different than stating "you do not obey God" especially when we don't know each other. We will all be judged on the same standard and breaking one commandment is like breaking them all. James 2:10-12. There are more commandments than just breaking God's holy Sabbath day, but that is certainly one of them. God personally wrote a covenant of Ten Exodus 34:28 and the covenant of Ten that was placed in the ark in the Most Holy of God's Temple which is also revealed in Heaven Revelation 11:19 so it's probably best not to shortchange our Creator and reduce His commandments to anything less, especially the one God told us to Remember. Exodus 20:8


God bless!
 
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Please quote me where I have ever stated that we should only follow God's laws by the letter. If you can't quote me saying than you can't speak for me, you can only speak for yourself, so I would like to kindly ask you to not put words in my mouth that was never stated.

According to scripture, you cannot keep the Spirit of God's laws by breaking the letter. If you think you are in the Spirit but are sinning (breaking the law of God) 1 John 3:4, Romans 3:20, Romans 7:7 according to scripture you are not following God but following a different spirit. 1 John 3:8

We are given the Spirit when we obey God's laws John 14:15-18, Acts 5:32, not when we disobey. We all have time now to repent and turn from our sins and obey God, but no one knows when Jesus is coming back, so it's probably best we ask Jesus today to give us the Spirit, so we can obey today. When Jesus comes back we don't want Him to say He does not know us Matthew 7:23, but instead we should want to be called one of His saints. Revelation 14:12

God knows the reasons why we obey Him or not obey Him or if we obey, so let's let the judging be up to who is worthy and not judge each other. Pointing out scripture is a lot different than stating "you do not obey God" especially when we don't know each other. We will all be judged on the same standard and breaking one commandment is like breaking them all. James 2:10-12. There are more commandments than just breaking God's holy Sabbath day, but that is certainly one of them. God personally wrote a covenant of Ten Exodus 34:28 and the covenant of Ten that was placed in the ark in the Most Holy of God's Temple which is also revealed in Heaven Revelation 11:19 so it's probably best not to shortchange our Creator and reduce His commandments to anything less, especially the one God told us to Remember. Exodus 20:8

God bless!

Now we are talking! Thankfully, we are both in agreement that neither of us follows God's commandments by the letter. You do your nineteenth-century Protestant church practices on Saturday and I do mine on Sunday. Neither of us is following God's commandment to the Israelites to the letter.
 
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Please quote me where I have ever stated that we should only follow God's laws by the letter. If you can't quote me saying than you can't speak for me, you can only speak for yourself, so I would like to kindly ask you to not put words in my mouth that was never stated.

According to scripture, you cannot keep the Spirit of God's laws by breaking the letter. If you think you are in the Spirit but are sinning (breaking the law of God) 1 John 3:4, Romans 3:20, Romans 7:7 according to scripture you are not following God but following a different spirit. 1 John 3:8

We are given the Spirit when we obey God's laws John 14:15-18, Acts 5:32, not when we disobey. We all have time now to repent and turn from our sins and obey God, but no one knows when Jesus is coming back, so it's probably best we ask Jesus today to give us the Spirit, so we can obey today. When Jesus comes back we don't want Him to say He does not know us Matthew 7:23, but instead we should want to be called one of His saints. Revelation 14:12

God knows the reasons why we obey Him or not obey Him or if we obey, so let's let the judging be up to who is worthy and not judge each other. Pointing out scripture is a lot different than stating "you do not obey God" especially when we don't know each other. We will all be judged on the same standard and breaking one commandment is like breaking them all. James 2:10-12. There are more commandments than just breaking God's holy Sabbath day, but that is certainly one of them. God personally wrote a covenant of Ten Exodus 34:28 and the covenant of Ten that was placed in the ark in the Most Holy of God's Temple which is also revealed in Heaven Revelation 11:19 so it's probably best not to shortchange our Creator and reduce His commandments to anything less, especially the one God told us to Remember. Exodus 20:8


God bless!
I don’t think you fully understand that when you tell people they should keep the 7th day commandment because it was given by God in Sinai (Exodus 20) you're telling people to follow the "letter" or "written code" of the law only given to Israel in Sinai through a covenant..
 
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