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I'm wondering if I can keep my hobbies. Such as writing and video games. I am a born again Christian but everyone says, don't do things out of selfishness and do what is pleasing to God, I'm not allowed to have self-will? I can't enjoy my video games or writing? It's basically monk life? I don't want to look out for myself but I do want some hobbies and passions in my free time. But they need to be pleasing to God? Why even create me if I am just going to be a clone that desires EXACTLY EVERYTHING of God?

With the world we live in I agree most entertainment is junk but there are two types of entertainment I enjoy for elements but the details can be nitty and gritty.

Let me be open, Undertale, a game that has some Christian elements but overall has magic (yes I like the magic but for fantasy sense) and what I will say is worse, it promotes homosexuality. This is the element I don't like.

Then there is Team Fortress 2, what I love about it is, it's a game that is a first-person shooter and revolves around team work. It has many interesting game style mechanics. I don't feel convicted by a mild violent video game because have any of us read the Old Testament? But personally, I have a distaste to profanity and some of its insults to the opponent.

I want to obey but I want some liberty. I feel as if it's just read the bible, pray all the time, fast (something I hate because I can't stand the feeling of starvation.) I want to enjoy my life and not extra possible legalisitic doctrines from very far right and fearful pastors. I cannot stand all the stuff I read and it's putting a stumbling block in my way.
 

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I'm wondering if I can keep my hobbies. Such as writing and video games. I am a born again Christian but everyone says, don't do things out of selfishness and do what is pleasing to God, I'm not allowed to have self-will? I can't enjoy my video games or writing? It's basically monk life? I don't want to look out for myself but I do want some hobbies and passions in my free time. But they need to be pleasing to God? Why even create me if I am just going to be a clone that desires EXACTLY EVERYTHING of God?

With the world we live in I agree most entertainment is junk but there are two types of entertainment I enjoy for elements but the details can be nitty and gritty.

Let me be open, Undertale, a game that has some Christian elements but overall has magic (yes I like the magic but for fantasy sense) and what I will say is worse, it promotes homosexuality. This is the element I don't like.

Then there is Team Fortress 2, what I love about it is, it's a game that is a first-person shooter and revolves around team work. It has many interesting game style mechanics. I don't feel convicted by a mild violent video game because have any of us read the Old Testament? But personally, I have a distaste to profanity and some of its insults to the opponent.

I want to obey but I want some liberty. I feel as if it's just read the bible, pray all the time, fast (something I hate because I can't stand the feeling of starvation.) I want to enjoy my life and not extra possible legalisitic doctrines from very far right and fearful pastors. I cannot stand all the stuff I read and it's putting a stumbling block in my way.
Methodism is known for its strict rules. So you can simply join a church with more personal liberty, if you feel too pressed and controlled.

On the other hand, properly done fasting is very healthy and makes your life to last much longer.
 
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I'm wondering if I can keep my hobbies. Such as writing and video games. I am a born again Christian but everyone says, don't do things out of selfishness and do what is pleasing to God, I'm not allowed to have self-will? I can't enjoy my video games or writing? It's basically monk life? I don't want to look out for myself but I do want some hobbies and passions in my free time. But they need to be pleasing to God? Why even create me if I am just going to be a clone that desires EXACTLY EVERYTHING of God?

With the world we live in I agree most entertainment is junk but there are two types of entertainment I enjoy for elements but the details can be nitty and gritty.

Let me be open, Undertale, a game that has some Christian elements but overall has magic (yes I like the magic but for fantasy sense) and what I will say is worse, it promotes homosexuality. This is the element I don't like.

Then there is Team Fortress 2, what I love about it is, it's a game that is a first-person shooter and revolves around team work. It has many interesting game style mechanics. I don't feel convicted by a mild violent video game because have any of us read the Old Testament? But personally, I have a distaste to profanity and some of its insults to the opponent.

I want to obey but I want some liberty. I feel as if it's just read the bible, pray all the time, fast (something I hate because I can't stand the feeling of starvation.) I want to enjoy my life and not extra possible legalisitic doctrines from very far right and fearful pastors. I cannot stand all the stuff I read and it's putting a stumbling block in my way.

You can eat from every tree of the garden except the one of good and evil. ;o)

Pray about the matters ... He will lead you out of what you need to be led out of. That is ... if something is constantly being brought to your mind/heart then take some time and go to His Word and get understanding about it.

Really we have lots of liberty .... liberty to do good.
 
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I'm wondering if I can keep my hobbies. Such as writing and video games. I am a born again Christian but everyone says, don't do things out of selfishness and do what is pleasing to God, I'm not allowed to have self-will? I can't enjoy my video games or writing? It's basically monk life? I don't want to look out for myself but I do want some hobbies and passions in my free time. But they need to be pleasing to God? Why even create me if I am just going to be a clone that desires EXACTLY EVERYTHING of God?
  • We can have hobbies.
  • We should avoid that which is displeasing to God.
  • God is holy, but he's not a taskmaster.
There have been Christian writers throughout history, some of them are renowned. Video games are a much more recent invention, so that rich history isn't there, but I like them.

Let me be open, Undertale, a game that has some Christian elements but overall has magic (yes I like the magic but for fantasy sense) and what I will say is worse, it promotes homosexuality. This is the element I don't like.
I've never played that one myself, but if a game annoys me, I tend to stop playing it.

Then there is Team Fortress 2, what I love about it is, it's a game that is a first-person shooter and revolves around team work. It has many interesting game style mechanics. I don't feel convicted by a mild violent video game because have any of us read the Old Testament? But personally, I have a distaste to profanity and some of its insults to the opponent.
If you don't like the insults, can you disable them in any way?

I want to obey but I want some liberty. I feel as if it's just read the bible, pray all the time, fast (something I hate because I can't stand the feeling of starvation.)
If you're only going without food during a fast, you're doing it wrong. See Isaiah 58.

I want to enjoy my life and not extra possible legalisitic doctrines from very far right and fearful pastors. I cannot stand all the stuff I read and it's putting a stumbling block in my way.
So there's stuff in your current choice of entertainment that you don't enjoy, and you fear that you won't enjoy getting rid of everything in that category. Sounds like there's much that you won't enjoy either way. So, what you do is you cut out these sinful things that you do not enjoy without signing on to more optional things that you also wouldn't enjoy.
 
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You can eat from every tree of the garden except the one of good and evil. ;o)

Pray about the matters ... He will lead you out of what you need to be led out of. That is ... if something is constantly being brought to your mind/heart then take some time and go to His Word and get understanding about it.

Really we have lots of liberty .... liberty to do good.

I've prayed and have received nothing; I have looked into the word and I get Romans 14 1-23 Romans 14:1-23 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats | New International Version (NIV) | Download The Bible App Now
 
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The will of God is perfect for us, it takes in account our desires, and even has things for us that surpass our imagination i would say.
But sin is bad, and 'the commands are not a burden at all' like the bible says, actually is liberating and you will be free spiritually, because sin enslaves, it put dirt on us, it kills our soul literally, ir brings death to it.
About video games... weed out the bad, and just keep the good, reject the bad, and enjoy a good adventure or something its not bad, you are not going to offend God playing some games.
I don't like games with horror or nudity or too satanic undertones thats all.
 
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Can you elaborate more?
Between selfishness and unselfishness, etc, between your time spent on entertainment and other things, etc, between how much bad you might take in or be exposed to and the good, etc, you know, "balance", etc...

Balance is wisdom, etc...

God Bless!
 
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I think maybe you misunderstand .... if something is constantly being brought to your mind/heart .... let's use an example of video games ... if your mind is questioning it then consider it is quite possible that are/is some element(s) to it that is not good for you .... remember that satan is very very deceptive .... and we also have self deception .... what I do when this happens I "take a break" from what I'm thinking/doing .... stay away from it for a while (quite a while) .... most often after that then I have a new "revelation" of how it was not good for me.

If you live in a mud puddle you don't know you are dirty until you get out of it and get cleaned up to know the difference ;o)
 
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The will of God is perfect for us, it takes in account our desires, and even has things for us that surpass our imagination i would say.
But sin is bad, and 'the commands are not a burden at all' like the bible says, actually is liberating and you will be free spiritually, because sin enslaves, it put dirt on us, it kills our soul literally, ir brings death to it.
About video games... weed out the bad, and just keep the good, reject the bad, and enjoy a good adventure or something its not bad, you are not going to offend God playing some games.
I don't like games with horror or nudity or too satanic undertones thats all.

I can personally handle some horror and I'm positive God has a horror imagination. Hell and spiders are a thing. My question is, would God say they're just video games?
 
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I can personally handle some horror and I'm positive God has a horror imagination. Hell and spiders are a thing. My question is, would God say they're just video games?

I don't know dark material, creates dark thoughts when you absorb all that, spiders are not horror, they can be just 'monsters' if too big, but they are still spider, but games like resident evil etc are too much for me, i have had enough horror in my life to want virtual horror.
 
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I can personally handle some horror and I'm positive God has a horror imagination. Hell and spiders are a thing. My question is, would God say they're just video games?
It depends on what's in your heart. There are certain games that swelled my pride that I had to stop playing for a while.
 
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Hobbies in and of themselves are not sinful, including video games. Spiders were created by God and deemed to be good at creation. They are not evil.

What is sinful is when we place our activities, our hobbies, and such before God in our lives. If a hobby has taken over our life and is interfering with our connection to God, then perhaps *that* is sinful and you need to get back on track in making God a priority. God created good things for us to enjoy and he created us with the ability to create and to enjoy the things we've created. We just have to remember who it is that gave us these abilities and put him above all other things.
 
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If it's not bothering you or your conscience and you balance anything that could be bad or have some dark to it; with also as much of what you know is good and holy in your life also, and your taking breaks and are doing other things in and with your life also, then I think you are fine for the most part for right now, etc...

I play video games still sometimes too, but at most times I'm not playing video games a lot of the time also, but am doing many other things also, etc...

Anyway, "balance", etc...

God Bless!
 
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I'm wondering if I can keep my hobbies. Such as writing and video games. I am a born again Christian but everyone says, don't do things out of selfishness and do what is pleasing to God, I'm not allowed to have self-will? I can't enjoy my video games or writing? It's basically monk life? I don't want to look out for myself but I do want some hobbies and passions in my free time. But they need to be pleasing to God? Why even create me if I am just going to be a clone that desires EXACTLY EVERYTHING of God?

With the world we live in I agree most entertainment is junk but there are two types of entertainment I enjoy for elements but the details can be nitty and gritty.

Let me be open, Undertale, a game that has some Christian elements but overall has magic (yes I like the magic but for fantasy sense) and what I will say is worse, it promotes homosexuality. This is the element I don't like.

Then there is Team Fortress 2, what I love about it is, it's a game that is a first-person shooter and revolves around team work. It has many interesting game style mechanics. I don't feel convicted by a mild violent video game because have any of us read the Old Testament? But personally, I have a distaste to profanity and some of its insults to the opponent.

I want to obey but I want some liberty. I feel as if it's just read the bible, pray all the time, fast (something I hate because I can't stand the feeling of starvation.) I want to enjoy my life and not extra possible legalisitic doctrines from very far right and fearful pastors. I cannot stand all the stuff I read and it's putting a stumbling block in my way.

Hi! Is everything sin..:) wont add to this. This GOD and Christ and the sweet holy Spirit (luke 11 13) Hes a personal God. We all have HIs laws written on our hearts. Christ came to set you free and give you life and give it to you more abundantly. Its your walk with Him.. you work out your own salvation. See know this.. Christ will NEVER make you feel guilty or condemn you. Those feelings are not from God. I'm 60 and I bet you can guess what they use to tell me was sin.. some of it was some of it was not.

He will always let you know in side you..if your doing something you should not. Know this also.. the more we ignore that ..He will stop. So now that game that book you name it.. God says nothing see He already did we made the free choice not to listen. See that SIN? What it does is lies to us and then us like a wall between God and us.. it takes us away from Him and its only motive is to kill steal and destroy us. Its not that GOD does not want us to have fun.. Gods ways are so much higher better funner.. laughter Joy peace.. all come and are Him. Like some one said.. Adam and Eve.. see you won't die you will be like God and know good and evil. That food ..there was no tasted like it yet not doing what God said always has a price. Satan was is the price. We give him the right to move in our lifes.

So.. for me I would not try and over think this. See put your TRUST faith in HIM! No.. you just give it to Him.. KNOW HE will guide you...lead you. He loves you. Let HIM tell you what is not sin. Read HIs word.. ask Him to open your eyes.. and KNOW He will. FIATH! He hears you all the time.. take time to listen. Song comes to mind.. by haha Chris Christian Theres a great great Joy in JESUS! And through me lord it longs to be told.
 
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What is sinful is when we place our activities, our hobbies, and such before God in our lives.
You may have noticed the natural progression from video games to virtual reality, in effect taking us further away from reality and each other and into a world foreign to God's. In the words of the founder of the World Economic Forum behind the build back better movement, their desire is to mesh us with technology to create a new humanity. God's isn't good enough for them.

“The tools of the fourth industrial revolution enable new forms of surveillance and other means of control that run counter to healthy, open societies

“The mind-boggling innovations triggered by the fourth industrial revolution, from biotechnology to AI, are redefining what it means to be human,”

** “Fourth Industrial Revolution technologies will not stop at becoming part of the physical world around us—they will become part of us.

“the ability of new technologies to literally become part of us” “curious mixes of digital-and-analog life that will redefine our very natures”

* “These technologies will operate within our own biology and change how we interface with the world. They are capable of crossing the boundaries of body and mind, enhancing our physical abilities, and even having a lasting impact on life itself “.

* “active implantable microchips that break the skin barrier of our bodies”, “smart tattoos”, “biological computing” and “custom-designed organisms”

* “sensors, memory switches and circuits can be encoded in common human gut bacteria”, “Smart Dust, arrays of full computers with antennas, each much smaller than a grain of sand, can now organize themselves inside the body”, “implanted devices will likely also help to communicate thoughts normally expressed verbally through a ‘built-in’ smartphone, and potentially unexpressed thoughts or moods by reading brain waves and other signals

... K Schwab
 
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I'm wondering if I can keep my hobbies. Such as writing and video games. I am a born again Christian but everyone says, don't do things out of selfishness and do what is pleasing to God, I'm not allowed to have self-will? I can't enjoy my video games or writing? It's basically monk life? I don't want to look out for myself but I do want some hobbies and passions in my free time. But they need to be pleasing to God? Why even create me if I am just going to be a clone that desires EXACTLY EVERYTHING of God?

With the world we live in I agree most entertainment is junk but there are two types of entertainment I enjoy for elements but the details can be nitty and gritty.

Let me be open, Undertale, a game that has some Christian elements but overall has magic (yes I like the magic but for fantasy sense) and what I will say is worse, it promotes homosexuality. This is the element I don't like.

Then there is Team Fortress 2, what I love about it is, it's a game that is a first-person shooter and revolves around team work. It has many interesting game style mechanics. I don't feel convicted by a mild violent video game because have any of us read the Old Testament? But personally, I have a distaste to profanity and some of its insults to the opponent.

I want to obey but I want some liberty. I feel as if it's just read the bible, pray all the time, fast (something I hate because I can't stand the feeling of starvation.) I want to enjoy my life and not extra possible legalisitic doctrines from very far right and fearful pastors. I cannot stand all the stuff I read and it's putting a stumbling block in my way.
It reminds me of Matthew Chapter 5 it says to cut off body parts if they cause you to sin, it gets to the point of absurdity that it is obviously using exaggeration to make a point. Point being: Even if you cut off each part of you, the heart and mind would still sin. The operative word is "if your hand causes you to sin" If.

If the video game causes you to sin, then get rid of it, but that's a copout resulting in relying on taste not, touch not, handle not commandments that have no value in restraining sensual indulgence.
 
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I'm wondering if I can keep my hobbies. Such as writing and video games. I am a born again Christian but everyone says, don't do things out of selfishness and do what is pleasing to God, I'm not allowed to have self-will?

What do you think it means to be a "born-again Christian," exactly?

What do you mean by "self-will"?

There are a bunch of things we do that could be called selfish. They are self-focused, for sure, but they are also necessary to health and well-being. Things like sleeping, eating, working - we have to do these things if we want to be physically okay and have clothing to wear and a roof over our heads. Is it selfish, then, to sleep, or eat, or work? Sort of. But in a good way - so long as our eating, sleeping and working are controlled by God. Outside of God's control, sleeping can become slothfulness, eating can become gluttony and working can become an idol.

I can't enjoy my video games or writing? It's basically monk life? I don't want to look out for myself but I do want some hobbies and passions in my free time. But they need to be pleasing to God? Why even create me if I am just going to be a clone that desires EXACTLY EVERYTHING of God?

It's hard to respond to these sorts of remarks since they express a deep misunderstanding of so many things. Who gave you life? God. Who keeps you alive, moment by moment? God. Who gave you your capacity to think and find pleasure in things? God. Who gave you the world in which exists so many wonderful things? God. But you should be able to do what you want without having to bother about pleasing God? I don't follow your thinking...

You're in God's universe. If He disappeared in the next instant, so would everything else. Both you and the galaxy-devouring black holes out in the cosmos totally rely upon God for existence. Quite literally, there is no you without Him; there is no universe without Him. But even though this is so, you should be able to do as you like at various points without bringing God into it? How does this make sense, exactly?

God didn't make the universe for you. He made it for Himself. Everything that exists God made for His purposes, to serve His will. Including you. Inasmuch as God not only made everything but sustains it at every moment, it seems to me He has the right to order everything as He likes. Including you.

You want to engage in activities that aren't pleasing to God? Maybe watch a movie, or play a video game that have crap in them, stuff God has said that He hates? Why should you be free to do so without God objecting, without consequences to your relationship with God? Why should God have to take a back seat to what you want? Who's God, exactly? You or Him?

The really weird thing, though, is that you can do as you like - sort of - in God's universe. For a while anyway, you can sin, you can watch garbage on t.v. or play games that are demonic and obscene, you can stare at inappropriate content for hours a day, you can fool around with drugs or booze. Go ahead. You aren't God's prisoner or puppet. You have the freedom to choose to love God and obey Him but that freedom works in the opposite direction, too. You also have the freedom to choose yourself over God, to live your way rather than His.

Choices and actions always have consequences, though. Even for God. He's warned you what the end result of a life chosen in favor of yourself will be. He's also said to you in His word that the life He wants you to have in Him is not bitter, boring and monastic but rich, full of meaning, and joy, and goodness. But you must choose for yourself. When you do, though, consequences will follow; some sooner and some later, good or bad, depending.

Part of the reason God turns you off right now is that you don't really know Him. If you did, you'd understand how amazing it is to know and walk with Him. But, at the moment, it seems you are big and He is small. And the World calls so loudly, too, beckoning you with noise, and color, and stimulation! Join the party! Leap into the World's wild riot of self-gratification! It'll be thrilling, and satisfying and intense, the World promises.

There is a way, though, that seems right unto a man but the end thereof is the way of death. Some of the deadliest things seem the most harmless at first. Like telling God we want our own way rather than His. The Prodigal got busy with the World. It took a bit, but eventually he ended up right where God says we all end up when we defy Him and go our own way: in the pigpen of sin, dirty, poor and starving for the life of purity, peace and fullness only God can provide.

Let me be open, Undertale, a game that has some Christian elements but overall has magic (yes I like the magic but for fantasy sense) and what I will say is worse, it promotes homosexuality. This is the element I don't like.

God doesn't like it, either. Remember what He did to the city of Sodom? Why, then, behave like Lot did and put yourself purposely in proximity to what God hates so much he destroyed it with fire from heaven? Give in to sin in one area and, little by little, you'll give in to sin in other areas. One step at a time, you'll move farther from God and deeper into evil, until, one day, you'll be so far into darkness you won't be able to find your way out, doing things that, at the beginning of turning from God, you would never have dreamt of doing. But this is always how sin works: It takes us farther than we wanted to go and costs far more than we ever wanted to pay.

Then there is Team Fortress 2, what I love about it is, it's a game that is a first-person shooter and revolves around team work. It has many interesting game style mechanics. I don't feel convicted by a mild violent video game because have any of us read the Old Testament? But personally, I have a distaste to profanity and some of its insults to the opponent.

"A little leaven, leavens the whole lump."
"A fly in the ointment causes it to stink."
"Little foxes spoil the vine."

God says to us in His word that only a little bit of evil is enough to poison us spiritually and "leaven," "spoil" and "stink up" our lives.

The fact that violent things are recorded in the OT hardly serves as a reason to entertain yourself with violence. Does Jesus's horrible death on the cross mean we can play games of torture and death? Of course not. God calls His children to peace, not violence, to gentleness, meekness and love, not bullets, blood and killing.

If you don't feel convicted by things that God hates (wanton killing, violence as entertainment, foul language) it isn't a sign you should go ahead and continue with them, but a sign there's something really wrong with your relationship with God.

I want to obey but I want some liberty. I feel as if it's just read the bible, pray all the time, fast (something I hate because I can't stand the feeling of starvation.) I want to enjoy my life and not extra possible legalisitic doctrines from very far right and fearful pastors. I cannot stand all the stuff I read and it's putting a stumbling block in my way.

The "liberty" you want is actually bondage - bondage to yourself, to your desires and will. And the more in bondage to yourself you are, the less you are free to live as God created you to live and to know Him. Your selfish liberty actually cuts you off from God and imprisons you in yourself, servant to the World and the devil, too.

You don't seem to really understand what walking with God is, what it looks like and how it works. No wonder, then, you want to run away from it. The view you have of walking with God is terrible! And unbiblical. If you want to talk more about how to properly know and walk with God, PM me. Read some of my threads on the Discipleship subforum.
 
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