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When Paul said all Israel shall be saved that indicates an en masse embracing of Christ by Jewish individuals. I am not disagreeing that the turning to Jesus as Lord and Savior is on an individual basis. We are on the same page as far as that goes.Right, that's what I was saying. Did you read all of my post? I'm saying that Paul hoped to help save some of his fellow Israelites who were part of the original tree (Romans 11:14) and were cut off so that they could be grafted in AGAIN. It's about individuals being grafted in because of faith. You think of it as speaking of a corporate grafting in but that is not at all what Paul was talking about.
And when? When the time of the gentiles has come in.
In Luke 21:24,
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
So we have the sign of the Jews over there in control of Jerusalem again as their capital of Israel.
The tree is the kingdom of God. That first century generation of Jews, the kingdom of God was taken from them, to be given to a future generation of Jews who will end up turning to Jesus.You are taking Romans 11 completely out of context. These unbelieving Jews who you think will become Christians in the future were not grafted in to the tree in the first place since they have never believed in Christ! So, how can they be grafted in again? You always take everything out of context.
The Jews over there in Israel right now are that generation of Jews. Currently unbelievers. But will become believers in Jesus in the middle part of the 7 years in Revelation 12:10.
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