The rise of menace as a mainstream political tool

[timothyu]

Well, then tell me -- is "very very few" still too many? Because the opposite would be either "the right amount," or "not enough."

Goldilocks for President

 

[timothyu]

Unfortunately domestic terrorism in the US that results in violences is almost always right wing terrorism.

You better look back to the 20th century and see both are at fault.

 

[Parmallia]

As a Purple Political,

Oh I've heard about you folks! Are you made from a space-age polymer lattice? Do people drop eggs on you a lot? That's got to be annoying.

 

[WolfGate]

Why do we hear so little from Liberal Christians there? Are they politically incorrect? Who politicized Christianity (besides the Church 1700 years ago)? Guess it no longer has any value to God.

Liberal Christians have been quite active. The following is a gross generalization and based on my observations and readings, as my church background has been decidedly evangelical.

I believe liberal Christians tend to show up more supporting actions (voter registration/get to the polls drives, organizing marches for what they see as injustices, etc.) Certainly they have some involvement with political rhetoric from the pulpit as well. What they have not done as much is openly adopt all the issues of the Democratic party as their own (like the conservatives have done). Which means there are some divisions on family, religious rights, and social issues based on biblical understanding.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Do AntiFa or BLM actually get voted into positions of power by the people who support their thuggery?

You mean besides Kamala Harris who openly raised funds for their bail money?

 

[Parmallia]

You better look back to the 20th century and see both are at fault.

In terms of domestic terrorism the Right wing domestic terrorists still have a higher body count. No one said leftists don't have a body count, just that the bigger problem is the one that winds up with more Americans killed.

 

[public hermit]

If it's the kids in that photo holding a sign, they're most likely sitting in church now because they need help getting to their feet after the service is over. Need the hip replacement and got the rheumatiz, you know. Most are probably no longer among the living.

Using that photo sorta shows how weak this whole attack line really is, doesn't it? I wonder if there's one from World War II that shows somebody professing something mean about "Japs" so we can claim the country is now overrun with such awful bigots...and it's Trump's fault, of course.

Old habits die hard. American bloodlust is a given. Justified bloodlust is always appreciated by those who hate. I hear these people, church sitters, talk about the coming civil war. You do, too. Lots of "God-fearing" folks are so afraid they're ready to kill someone. Seriously.

Charlie Kirk rebukes man who wants to kill Democrats. It's not enough

I'm not all that worried, though. American softness is also a given. We're a bunch of soft blobs banging away on our computers talking about how angry we are. We, the masses, are getting to the point where we bungle every thing we touch. We are not prepared for a good fight. We love our conveniences way too much. These folks on the right can't be inconvenienced to wear a mask; they ain't going to make the sacrifices needed for a civil war. Ha!

Still, there are plenty, I think who are willing and probably will resort to violence. Terrorist acts, as it were. I'm sure that's in our future, but would be thrilled to be wrong.

 

[timothyu]

I believe liberal Christians tend to show up more supporting actions

True enough but there seems to be a hesitancy in the media to recognize them as Christians as it may weaken their agenda against the Christian right for being... well... Christians. Serves the religion right for defending the governance of man instead of the governance of god.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Oh I've heard about you folks! Are you made from a space-age polymer lattice? Do people drop eggs on you a lot? That's got to be annoying.

I doubt you've heard about my particular shade of Purple. Mine is a metaphor, whereas the typical Purples aren't.

 

[timothyu]

In terms of domestic terrorism the Right wing domestic terrorists still have a higher body count. No one said leftists don't have a body count, just that the bigger problem is the one that winds up with more Americans killed.

Really? I saw the Klan and the non peace loving militants of the 60's 70's as an example. Body count was high. And what about disco?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Oh I've heard about you folks! Are you made from a space-age polymer lattice? Do people drop eggs on you a lot? That's got to be annoying.

... but yes, the eggs do get annoying after a while.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You mean besides Kamala Harris who openly raised funds for their bail money?

Which one is she a member of: AntiFa or BLM?

 

[Albion]

I struggle with comments like this. Yes there is a small group of Antifa folks who sometimes resort to violence but no Democrat candidate for office shows up on their ads waving an Antifa flag.

No, they just bail them out when they're arrested. And when these Democratic leaders call for violence and Antifa then takes its cue, do you think that's only a coincidence? Do you think that Marxism and Anarchism (think Antifa) is non-violent by its nature? I hope not.

Meanwhile Republican candidates across the board are busy weilding RIFLES AND GUNS in their campaign ads.

That's clearly false, but to the extent that there may lately have been some such ads, it's because Americans are entitled by law and the Constitution to have arms in their own defense and the Left is in the process of pushing for the confiscation of all guns. It is definitely not the case that something violent is inherent in conservative politics, no matter how much you want us to think that's the case.

Which side is more likely to be "violent"?

The Left.

Unfortunately domestic terrorism in the US that results in violences is almost always right wing terrorism.

Thanks. you making that patently absurd claim kept me from thinking you might just be mistaken about this issue.

 

[Hank77]

You mean besides Kamala Harris who openly raised funds for their bail money?

Why exactly was this money raised? And who exactly did it bailout?
Both questions have the same answer.

 

[Albion]

Old habits die hard. American bloodlust is a given. Justified bloodlust is always appreciated by those who hate. I hear these people, church sitters, talk about the coming civil war. You do, too. Lots of "God-fearing" folks are so afraid they're ready to kill someone. Seriously.

You can drop the act now. Really. To the extent that the "church sitters" you dislike and ridicule might talk about a coming "civil war," it's because the nation's leaders have openly talked about that possibility themselves. I heard one of the Left's leaders on TV today repeatedly refuse to criticize the use of violence by the group he co-founded, so long as their demands are not met.

So yes, it's not surprising that churchgoers might be afraid of what is likely to come.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Let me understand:

Congressmen shot at a baseball game.

Federal Courthouses fire bombed and attacked almost nightly for a year.

over two billion dollars in damages from rioting over years of violence

Condemned by both sides, or encouraged by one?

Congress members publicaly calling for open confrontation of their political opponents in public places

violent confrontation? You do know that not all confrontations involve physical violence, right?

Apparently not:

members of the presidents staff being verbally assaulted in restaurants

You've got the former vice president (arguably the most crucial member of his staff) escaping from a lynch mob, which his own (former) president dismisses as "common sense."

All actions by Democrats repeatedly for four years.

And the article wants people to believe it is a Republican only issue.

We're not talking about the rank and file -- were talking about the politicians in positions of leadership condoning, commending, or even committing such acts themselves.

But of course you don't see that as a problem.

 

[Parmallia]

No, they just bail them out when they're arrested. And when these Democratic leaders call for violence and Antifa then takes its cue, do you think that's only a coincidence?

I am unfamiliar with Dems calling for Antifa violence.

Do you think that Marxism and Anarchism (think Antifa) is non-violent by its nature?

Given that my dad fought in WWII against facism I'd say antifacism is often rather violent in nature.

That's clearly false, but to the extent that there may lately have been some such ads,

Some such?

it's because Americans are entitled by law and the Constitution to have arms in their own defense and the Left is in the process of pushing for the confiscation of all guns.

No they are not. They are actually pushing for more controls on guns but I understand to the sufficiently biased that any suggestion that they not be allowed to carry assault rifles into church is the exact same thing as taking away all their liberties.

It is definitely not the case that something violent is inherent in conservative politics, no matter how much you want us to think that's the case.

A look back at Trump comments perceived by some as inciting violence

Thanks. you making that patently absurd claim kept me from thinking you might just be mistaken about this issue.

That's why I provided citations in support of the statement. The fact that you call reality "patently absurd" is probably the bigger issue.

 

[Hank77]

I heard one of the Left's leaders on TV today repeatedly refuse to criticize the use of violence by the group he co-founded, so long as their demands are not met.

Who was this leftist leader that you heard to today and the group that he co-founded, I'd like to look him up?
Thanks

 

[public hermit]

So yes, it's not surprising that churchgoers might be afraid of what is likely to come

It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Folks on the right manufacture fear, they have by and large created an enemy to fear and destroy out of their own neighbors. Those sinners and leftists are destroying everything. What should we do?

What did that guy say on Turning Point USA "When do we get to kill these people?" He wants to kill leftists because he feels justified since they're going to ruin everything. He feels as if it's unjust that he can't start shooting folks now. What's the hold up? And, folks applauded him! They not only accepted his evil request as a live option but applauded it! Pitiful

 

[Albion]

I am unfamiliar with Dems calling for Antifa violence.

Then you simply do not have enough invested in this issue for you to be analyzing it. I have attempted to fill you in with the facts, but that's about the best that can be hoped for under these circumstances.

No they are not. They are actually pushing for more controls on guns but I understand to the sufficiently biased that any suggestion that they not be allowed to carry assault rifles into church is the exact same thing as taking away all their liberties.

And who the heck are you talking about (carrying assault weapons into church)?


You can't just find some unrepresentative boogyman and then talk as though that's everyone on the political right!