Genesis 2:7 man became a living , when does this occur.

[Adventist Heretic]

I think I might have posed this question last year sometime, but I want to post it again.
About 8 years ago I came to the conclusion that the Mainline Christian teaching of the subject of when life begins is incorrect. After some leading by the Lord on the subject and the study of the Scripture, there is no way I can support the belief that life begins at conception. Scripture does not support it. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says life begins at conception. There is a text that says very specifically when life, the very first life, began. Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

1 Does this text apply to all life?
2. Is this a model for how life is formed in the womb? the first formation then life is breathed into body?
3. Does the word formed mean conscious or unconscious.
4. In all the major text that are used to support life beginning at conception, the word formed us used? does this mean conscience or unconscience?
5. when the breath leave the body it is called death, post-life. Is the part BEFORE the breath enters the body pre-life?
6. If you believe life begins when the blood come into the body, then when is that and what do you call the condition before the blood?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I think I might have posed this question last year sometime, but I want to post it again.
About 8 years ago I came to the conclusion that the Mainline Christian teaching of the subject of when life begins is incorrect. After some leading by the Lord on the subject and the study of the Scripture, there is no way I can support the belief that life begins at conception. Scripture does not support it. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says life begins at conception. There is a text that says very specifically when life, the very first life, began. Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

1 Does this text apply to all life?
2. Is this a model for how life is formed in the womb? the first formation then life is breathed into body?
3. Does the word formed mean conscious or unconscious.
4. In all the major text that are used to support life beginning at conception, the word formed us used? does this mean conscience or unconscience?
5. when the breath leave the body it is called death, post-life. Is the part BEFORE the breath enters the body pre-life?
6. If you believe life begins when the blood come into the body, then when is that and what do you call the condition before the blood?

Hello ID101, I believe God created all things the same way he created us and that is through His Word. You will find this all in Genesis 1 but not everything written in Genesis 2:7. Man was created on the 6th day of creation in Genesis 1:26-31 and at the end of creation on the seventh day God rested from all His work that he had created and blessed "the seventh day" and made the "seventh day" of the creation week a "holy day" of rest that he made for all mankind (Mark 2:27) that he commands us to keep as a memorial of creation *see Genesis 2:1-3 written by God's own finger as one of God's 10 commandments in Exodus 20:8-11.

God bless.

 

[Adventist Heretic]

Hello ID101, I believe God created all things the same way he created us and that is through His Word. You will find this all in Genesis 1 but not everything written in Genesis 2:7. Man was created on the 6th day of creation in Genesis 1:26-31 and at the end of creation on the seventh day God rested from all His work that he had created and blessed "the seventh day" and made the "seventh day" of the creation week a "holy day" of rest that he made for all mankind (Mark 2:27) that he commands us to keep as a memorial of creation *see Genesis 2:1-3 written by God's own finger as one of God's 10 commandments in Exodus 20:8-11.

God bless.

what does any of this have to do with the OP?

 

[eleos1954]

I think I might have posed this question last year sometime, but I want to post it again.
About 8 years ago I came to the conclusion that the Mainline Christian teaching of the subject of when life begins is incorrect. After some leading by the Lord on the subject and the study of the Scripture, there is no way I can support the belief that life begins at conception. Scripture does not support it. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says life begins at conception. There is a text that says very specifically when life, the very first life, began. Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

1 Does this text apply to all life?
2. Is this a model for how life is formed in the womb? the first formation then life is breathed into body?
3. Does the word formed mean conscious or unconscious.
4. In all the major text that are used to support life beginning at conception, the word formed us used? does this mean conscience or unconscience?
5. when the breath leave the body it is called death, post-life. Is the part BEFORE the breath enters the body pre-life?
6. If you believe life begins when the blood come into the body, then when is that and what do you call the condition before the blood?

Science tells us that human life begins at the time of conception. From the moment fertilization takes place, the child’s genetic makeup is already complete. Its gender has already been determined, along with its height and hair, eye and skin color. The only thing the embryo needs to become a fully-functioning being is the time to grow and develop.

More importantly, God reveals to us in His Word that not only does life begin at conception, but He knows who we are even before then (Jeremiah 1:5). King David said this about God’s role in our conception: "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb . . . your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be" (Psalm 139:13, 16).

 

[ViaCrucis]

The mechanics and moment of ensoulment is a matter of speculation; but I think I can say pretty confidently that sometime between conception and birth we are dealing with not just human genetic tissue, but a fully realized human person comprised of body and soul.

This isn't an attempt, nor invitation to debate that issue (you know the one I'm talking about); but merely pointing out that the language of the human soul should be neither regarded in a Platonic sense (we are souls who are given a body), nor is the soul merely an abstract way of talking about biology; rather maintaining the historic Christian view that we are bodies given a soul. The soul is created, not uncreated; and its proper relationship is to the body, as the animating principle of our bodies, reason, will, etc.

A body without a soul is a corpse.
A soul without a body is like an edge without a knife. It's a kind of nonsense that goes against God's natural order. Yet nevertheless, between the death of the body and the resurrection of the body we have the promise of God's word that our absence from the body will be in the presence of the Lord.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

I’m not interested in arguing but it factually does say when he drew his first breath.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Maybe the body of Wisdom is the creation of every child, breath is the understanding that establishes the person and life is the filling of knowledge.

As far as my beliefs about abortion I don't believe that women enjoy killing as men do. But it is the same classification it seems. There is no blanket statement to be made. Circumstances always factor in.

 

[BobRyan]

I think I might have posed this question last year sometime, but I want to post it again.
About 8 years ago I came to the conclusion that the Mainline Christian teaching of the subject of when life begins is incorrect. After some leading by the Lord on the subject and the study of the Scripture, there is no way I can support the belief that life begins at conception. Scripture does not support it. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says life begins at conception. There is a text that says very specifically when life, the very first life, began. Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

1 Does this text apply to all life?
2. Is this a model for how life is formed in the womb? the first formation then life is breathed into body?
3. Does the word formed mean conscious or unconscious.
4. In all the major text that are used to support life beginning at conception, the word formed us used? does this mean conscience or unconscience?
5. when the breath leave the body it is called death, post-life. Is the part BEFORE the breath enters the body pre-life?
6. If you believe life begins when the blood come into the body, then when is that and what do you call the condition before the blood?

The Bible calls for the death penalty for killing a baby in the womb "a life for a life" Ex 21:22-24

 

[Clare73]

I think I might have posed this question last year sometime, but I want to post it again.
About 8 years ago I came to the conclusion that the Mainline Christian teaching of the subject of when life begins is incorrect. After some leading by the Lord on the subject and the study of the Scripture, there is no way I can support the belief that life begins at conception. Scripture does not support it. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says life begins at conception.

There is no Scripture that says rattlesnakes are poisonous. . .so feel free to let your children play with rattlesnakes.
If you consult biology, however, you will find they are poisonous.

There is a text that says very specifically when life, the very first life, began. Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

Origins are not the pattern for going forward. Adam was never an infant or child.

Human life is a biological matter, and biology shows us when human life begins. . .at the union of the female egg and the male sperm into a living single cell, zygote, containing all the DNA genetic material for the complete development of a human being, nothing ever needing to be added, for all stages of life to death.
Human life beings at conception.

1. Does this text apply to all life?
2. Is this a model for how life is formed in the womb? the first formation then life is breathed into body?
3. Does the word formed mean conscious or unconscious.
4. In all the major text that are used to support life beginning at conception, the word formed us used? does this mean conscience or unconscience?
5. when the breath leave the body it is called death, post-life. Is the part BEFORE the breath enters the body pre-life?
6. If you believe life begins when the blood come into the body, then when is that and what do you call the condition before the blood?

 

[Trusting in Him]

I think that this may help answer your questions. Scientists Just Captured The Flash of Light That Sparks When a Sperm Meets an Egg

(John 1:9) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man which cometh into the world.

I also note that the first thing which the fertilised egg does is to start dividing and to duplicate from just one cell into many. Cell division does not happen in something which is dead. Cell divison is demostrating life. God has already evidenced that He has created another life which has just come into the world when that flash of light occurs.

That's the true Light, which lighteth every man which cometh into the world, a living soul has just come into existance. At that moment another human life has been created. To deliberately destroy that life it not only to murder that life, but also to reject a priceless gift which comes diretly from the hand of God. Has not Jesus died for all mankind? Why is an unborn child any different?

(Obediah 1:15) For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen (nations), also as thou hast done: it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.

As has already been said it is a life for a life. (Exodus 21:22-24)

I firmly belive that life begins at conception and that the live of an unborn child is scared before God. How is it that people will destroy their own flesh and blood? So tragic!

 

[sandman]

I think I might have posed this question last year sometime, but I want to post it again.
About 8 years ago I came to the conclusion that the Mainline Christian teaching of the subject of when life begins is incorrect. After some leading by the Lord on the subject and the study of the Scripture, there is no way I can support the belief that life begins at conception. Scripture does not support it. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says life begins at conception. There is a text that says very specifically when life, the very first life, began. Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

1 Does this text apply to all life?
2. Is this a model for how life is formed in the womb? the first formation then life is breathed into body?
3. Does the word formed mean conscious or unconscious.
4. In all the major text that are used to support life beginning at conception, the word formed us used? does this mean conscience or unconscience?
5. when the breath leave the body it is called death, post-life. Is the part BEFORE the breath enters the body pre-life?
6. If you believe life begins when the blood come into the body, then when is that and what do you call the condition before the blood?

This is a trimmed down version of of my work on soul life ....
Although I rarely discuss the subject of when life begins biblically, for the simple reason that I don’t wish to lend any credence to the pro-choice movement. I believe abortion is morally wrong and it cheapens life to every degree…but biblically I have to stand with the truths of when life begins….This is a very controversial and emotional issue, but neither emotions nor someones belief override truth.

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Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. {Nepesh chai}

Soul is what gives the body life, vitality.... it's our breath life.
The natural man {the five senses man} is comprised of “body” and “soul”. The spiritual man who is born again is comprised of “body” “soul” and “spirit”

Both man, as well as animals, have soul life. In fact, soul life was first created in animals.

Genesis 1
:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

The words life in these two verses, are the Hebrew word nephesh = soul

:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good

:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

The word create in verse 21 is the Hebrew word ruach.... To create, is to bring into existence or make something out of nothing...Only God can create. And once God creates something He need not create it again ....He just speaks it into existence.

The word creature is the Hebrew word nephesh = soul

The word living is the Hebrew word chai meaning “moving” or “moving life”. Nephesh
chai is always used biblically as living life or living soul.



~~~~~~~~~~~~Where is the soul?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As Leviticus 17:11 states “the life of the flesh is in the blood”...

The word life in Leviticus 17:11 is the same word for soul {nephesh}

Going back to basic Biology:
Oxygen is delivered throughout the body by means of about 2 billion red blood cells ….actually it is the hemoglobin molecules from the red cells that deliver the oxygen to the individual cells in the body tissue. The bloodstream also picks up CO2 from the body and returns it to the lunges to be exhaled.
What happens when we die? The heart, which pumps the blood, which delivers the oxygen to the brain …… stops….. soul life ceases in that particular person…. but is carried on through prodigy. But if there is no offspring, the soul is gone when that person dies; there is nothing immortal about the soul.

The life of the soul {flesh} is in the blood …….

In Genesis 2:7 where The Lord God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul.
Simply stated…. life begins with breath life ….and the converse to that is… life ends when we take our last breath.

The same soul life that God created in Genesis 1:21, is the same soul life that God breathed into Adam, which made Adam a living soul….It is also the same soul life that continues in mankind today.


*God formed man of the dust of the ground = body.
The Hebrew word for formed is the word yatsar. = to be fashioned out of something that was already in existence.

*He breathed in man the breath of life and man was made a living soul
The word made is the Hebrew word asah = A substance required of which the thing made consisted.

*He created in man spirit so man could communicate with God.
God created man in his own image... God is spirit, and spirit has no form, no flesh or bones. This made it possible for man to communicate with God by way of what God is ……….spirit. This spirit was ultimately lost with the fall of man...and regained with the availability of the new birth through the accomplishments of Christ.

Formed, made, and created = Body, soul, and spirit.

In Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
The words breathed into his nostrils is the figure of speech anthropopatheia or condescension. This figure is used of the ascription of human passions, actions, or attributes to God.
Of the 219 known figures of speech 212 are used throughout the Word of God. (E.W.Bullinger)

 

[Adventist Heretic]

This is a trimmed down version of of my work on soul life ....
Although I rarely discuss the subject of when life begins biblically, for the simple reason that I don’t wish to lend any credence to the pro-choice movement. I believe abortion is morally wrong and it cheapens life to every degree…but biblically I have to stand with the truths of when life begins….This is a very controversial and emotional issue, but neither emotions nor someones belief override truth.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. {Nepesh chai}

Soul is what gives the body life, vitality.... it's our breath life.
The natural man {the five senses man} is comprised of “body” and “soul”. The spiritual man who is born again is comprised of “body” “soul” and “spirit”

Both man, as well as animals, have soul life. In fact, soul life was first created in animals.

Genesis 1
:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

The words life in these two verses, are the Hebrew word nephesh = soul

:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good

:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

The word create in verse 21 is the Hebrew word ruach.... To create, is to bring into existence or make something out of nothing...Only God can create. And once God creates something He need not create it again ....He just speaks it into existence.

The word creature is the Hebrew word nephesh = soul

The word living is the Hebrew word chai meaning “moving” or “moving life”. Nephesh
chai is always used biblically as living life or living soul.



~~~~~~~~~~~~Where is the soul?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As Leviticus 17:11 states “the life of the flesh is in the blood”...

The word life in Leviticus 17:11 is the same word for soul {nephesh}

Going back to basic Biology:
Oxygen is delivered throughout the body by means of about 2 billion red blood cells ….actually it is the hemoglobin molecules from the red cells that deliver the oxygen to the individual cells in the body tissue. The bloodstream also picks up CO2 from the body and returns it to the lunges to be exhaled.
What happens when we die? The heart, which pumps the blood, which delivers the oxygen to the brain …… stops….. soul life ceases in that particular person…. but is carried on through prodigy. But if there is no offspring, the soul is gone when that person dies; there is nothing immortal about the soul.

The life of the soul {flesh} is in the blood …….

In Genesis 2:7 where The Lord God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul.
Simply stated…. life begins with breath life ….and the converse to that is… life ends when we take our last breath.

The same soul life that God created in Genesis 1:21, is the same soul life that God breathed into Adam, which made Adam a living soul….It is also the same soul life that continues in mankind today.


*God formed man of the dust of the ground = body.
The Hebrew word for formed is the word yatsar. = to be fashioned out of something that was already in existence.

*He breathed in man the breath of life and man was made a living soul
The word made is the Hebrew word asah = A substance required of which the thing made consisted.

*He created in man spirit so man could communicate with God.
God created man in his own image... God is spirit, and spirit has no form, no flesh or bones. This made it possible for man to communicate with God by way of what God is ……….spirit. This spirit was ultimately lost with the fall of man...and regained with the availability of the new birth through the accomplishments of Christ.

Formed, made, and created = Body, soul, and spirit.

In Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
The words breathed into his nostrils is the figure of speech anthropopatheia or condescension. This figure is used of the ascription of human passions, actions, or attributes to God.
Of the 219 known figures of speech 212 are used throughout the Word of God. (E.W.Bullinger)

I think we are on the same page, but I would like to ask you to comment on the following passages if you will.

1. Jeremiah 1:5
2. Psalms 139:13-16
3. Hebrews 10:5

in the first 2 passages please comment on the mean and application of the word "formed" and it's variant "unformed" comparing it's usage to Genesis 2:7. In 2:7 the formed material is not alive. why should we conclude that it is any different in these 2 passages?

In passage 3 please comment on what the writer says about the body being prepared. Was Christ in the body while it was being prepared or after it?

 

[Adventist Heretic]

There is no Scripture that says rattlesnakes are poisonous. . .so feel free to let your children play with rattlesnakes.
If you consult biology, however, you will find they are poisonous.

Rattlesnakes are not being talked about here, when life begins is. Christian have no Theological or Political, Moral view on Rattlesnakes, but they do have one on abortion. A view in which they seek to impose on others. How ever there is no basis for this view. This is the same mistake the church made in the Middle Ages when they believed the earth to be the center of the universe. The scripture does not say that. It says "these are the outer parts of Gods ways" the outer cannot be the center.

Christian are making the same mistake with Abortion, by claiming that like begins at conceptions, rather then saying that "formation" begins at conception, there is an unnecessary divide and unnecessary conflict. It is putting the church in harms way. If life begins as I have postulated, when the breath of God come into the formed bod, then it is not necessary to have this fight.

Origins are not the pattern for going forward.

ON what is this based, you just wishing away the matter....POOF....GONE.....When I realized that the same word for "formed" in Genesis 2:7 is used in Jeremiah 1:5, Ps. 139:13-16. It occured to me that since formed is not a person in one passage it must mean the same in another passage.

Human life is a biological matter, and biology shows us when human life begins. . .at the union of the female egg and the male sperm into a living single cell, zygote, containing all the DNA genetic material for the complete development of a human being, nothing ever needing to be added, for all stages of life to death.
Human life beings at conception.

The problem with this argument is that Human development come in stages. Yes the formation of the body begin at conception, but you cannot make the case from Scripture. Scripture is plain, the breathof God presence determines when a person is alive or dead. You cannot Claim as Christians do that life begins at conception, formation begins at conception. Life begins when God breath enters the body.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Rattlesnakes are not being talked about here, when life begins is. Christian have no Theological or Political, Moral view on Rattlesnakes, but they do have one on abortion. A view in which they seek to impose on others. How ever there is no basis for this view. This is the same mistake the church made in the Middle Ages when they believed the earth to be the center of the universe. The scripture does not say that. It says "these are the outer parts of Gods ways" the outer cannot be the center.

Christian are making the same mistake with Abortion, by claiming that like begins at conceptions, rather then saying that "formation" begins at conception, there is an unnecessary divide and unnecessary conflict. It is putting the church in harms way. If life begins as I have postulated, when the breath of God come into the formed bod, then it is not necessary to have this fight.

ON what is this based, you just wishing away the matter....POOF....GONE.....When I realized that the same word for "formed" in Genesis 2:7 is used in Jeremiah 1:5, Ps. 139:13-16. It occured to me that since formed is not a person in one passage it must mean the same in another passage.

The problem with this argument is that Human development come in stages. Yes the formation of the body begin at conception, but you cannot make the case from Scripture. Scripture is plain, the breathof God presence determines when a person is alive or dead. You cannot Claim as Christians do that life begins at conception, formation begins at conception. Life begins when God breath enters the body.

To get that technical biblically and spiritually breathe is the understanding that Christ breathed into the disciples before Pentecost. So I don’t think it correlates to the topic.

 

[Adventist Heretic]

The Bible calls for the death penalty for killing a baby in the womb "a life for a life" Ex 21:22-24

notice, it is LIFE FOR LIFE, the question on the forum is when does that begin, at conception or some time later, when the breath of God comes into the body and awareness and feelings occur. That comes after conception. Once it is alive then your text would apply once it ends it does not apply. My question poses the possibality that Christian are wrong on this matter, while trying to be faithful they have drawn the wrong conclusion. Genesis2:7 would seem to contradict this.

 

[Adventist Heretic]

To get that technical biblically and spiritually breathe is the understanding that Christ breathed into the disciples before Pentecost. So I don’t think it correlates to the topic.

you do make a valid point about a change in the condition at pentecost, which is my point entirely. a change occured in Genesis 2:7 and the same language is used else where to describe the development of the process of human development in the womb.

 

[BobRyan]

notice, it is LIFE FOR LIFE, the question on the forum is when does that begin, at conception or some time later, when the breath of God comes into the body and awareness and feelings occur. That comes after conception. Once it is alive then your text would apply once it ends it does not apply. My question poses the possibality that Christian are wrong on this matter, while trying to be faithful they have drawn the wrong conclusion. Genesis2:7 would seem to contradict this.

ok noted.

Generally speaking Christians do have a point of agreement - which is -- when to have a funeral or at least a memorial service on the death of a loved one. I have seen that for miscarriage in certain instances and I think it make sense depending on the time frame.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

I think I might have posed this question last year sometime, but I want to post it again.
About 8 years ago I came to the conclusion that the Mainline Christian teaching of the subject of when life begins is incorrect. After some leading by the Lord on the subject and the study of the Scripture, there is no way I can support the belief that life begins at conception. Scripture does not support it. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says life begins at conception. There is a text that says very specifically when life, the very first life, began. Genesis 2:7

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

1 Does this text apply to all life?
2. Is this a model for how life is formed in the womb? the first formation then life is breathed into body?
3. Does the word formed mean conscious or unconscious.
4. In all the major text that are used to support life beginning at conception, the word formed us used? does this mean conscience or unconscience?
5. when the breath leave the body it is called death, post-life. Is the part BEFORE the breath enters the body pre-life?
6. If you believe life begins when the blood come into the body, then when is that and what do you call the condition before the blood?

Job 33:4 says, "The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life."

Some claim it happens at the Quickening. What is your understanding of the above verse friend? I am not making any point.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

"I will demand an accounting for human life.
Whosoever shall shed man's blood, his own blood shall be shed,
For man was made in the image of God."
Genesis 9:5-6

I guess the answer is when we take on the image of God.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

"I will demand an accounting for human life.
Whosoever shall shed man's blood, his own blood shall be shed,
For man was made in the image of God."
Genesis 9:5-6

I guess the answer is when we take on the image of God.