Border Crisis

[comana]

You too
huh?


?

I do like to enable education over ignorance.

 

[ralliann]

None of the above. I'm a capitalist, though I believe in more regulations than we currently have. How did the illegality cause your wages to decline? By what mechanism?

By a wink. In other words everyone (Government) all looking the other way. Being lax on it. Knowing they could get away with it.

 

[ralliann]

I do like to enable education over ignorance.

Ah yeah, education.

 

[Arcangl86]

By a wink. In other words everyone (Government) all looking the other way. Being lax on it. Knowing they could get away with it.

Being lax on what? Knowing they could get away with what?

 

[ralliann]

Being lax on what? Knowing they could get away with what?

Yes. Just like blm knew they could get away with their violence and did so. Either someone is honest or not. It has nothing to do with capitalism. In fact it is corrupt government actually. Everyone in the same industry needs to compete for clients to stay in business. A few Are allowed to hire illegals, then what are the rest to do? It should have been addressed at the time it started, so the others were not forced. But that would have taken us, the people not tolerating it. This has been coming for a very long time.

 

[comana]

Yes. Just like blm knew they could get away with their violence and did so. Either someone is honest or not. It has nothing to do with capitalism.

There is plenty of dishonesty that goes along with making a profit. Capitalism is about making a profit. What do you describe capitalism as?

 

[wing2000]

By a wink. In other words everyone (Government) all looking the other way. Being lax on it. Knowing they could get away with it.

Ah, being lax on the capitalist who is breaking employment laws...

 

[ralliann]

There is plenty of dishonesty that goes along with making a profit. Capitalism is about making a profit. What do you describe capitalism as?

There is a lot of dishonesty that went on with Government. If the Government would not have tolerated it it would not have happened. One or two dishonest ones force the others to drop their costs as well, or go out of business. The people rising up not allowing it for that to happen. But there are people out there convincing people it's wrong to do that to these poor people. Just like here.

 

[ralliann]

Ah, being lax on the capitalist who is breaking employment laws...

No destroying wages because either you lower your costs or you go out of business. So which way do you want to see it? A way to put capitalists out of business, or to ruin American jobs?

 

[ralliann]

No destroying wages because either you lower your costs or you go out of business. So which way do you want to see it? A way to put capitalists out of business, or to ruin American jobs?

I can see that this conversation is not really about human need.

 

[wing2000]

No destroying wages because either you lower your costs or you go out of business. So which way do you want to see it? A way to put capitalists out of business, or to ruin American jobs?

I can see you have no interest in holding employers accountable for their actions. You're right on one count...the government has looked the other way....because their business supporters want them too. And we the voters continue to elect them. One party likes to focus on blaming the immigrants or propose ineffective solutions such as the wall. However, neither party has effectively shown any willingness to go after employers who hire illegal immigrants. The attitude is "Yes, I'm against illegal immigration as long as you don't go after the illegal immigrant working for me."

Remove illegal hiring in this country and most of the illegal immigration would have ended decades ago.

 

[ralliann]

I can see you have no interest in holding employers accountable for their actions. You're right on one count...the government has looked the other way....because their business supporters want them too. And we the voters continue to elect them. One party likes to focus on blaming the immigrants or propose ineffective solutions such as the wall. However, neither party has effectively shown any willingness to go after employers who hire illegal immigrants. The attitude is "Yes, I'm against illegal immigration as long as you don't go after the illegal immigrant working for me."

Remove illegal hiring in this country and most of the illegal immigration would have ended decades ago.

And I can see too. Remove illegal immigrants no problem. But I can see it is working well for ya.

 

[comana]

And I can see too. Remove illegal immigrants no problem. But I can see it is working well for ya.

It can’t be just one approach. We must hold employers accountable while also deporting those here illegally.

 

[ralliann]

It can’t be just one approach.

It depends.

We must hold employers accountable while also deporting those here illegally.

We must hold our elected officials to our laws. Enforce our laws. There is where we need to start. Why didn't people do that? Illegals are just pawns to these people. Don't like our laws? Use the power of political persuasion to change them.

 

[comana]

It depends.
We must hold our elected officials to our laws. Enforce our laws. There is where we need to start. Why didn't people do that? Illegals are just pawns to these people. Don't like our laws? Use the power of political persuasion to change them.

I believe it is because this is not really that important at the ballot box as people claim. This and many other issues as well because the same people keep getting voted back into Congress. Politicians will say whatever gets the vote and then they point fingers as to why they can’t get promises done. At re-election time they get voted in again despite being ineffective.

You want change then use your vote.

 

[ralliann]

I believe it is because this is not really that important at the ballot box as people claim. This and many other issues as well because the same people keep getting voted back into Congress. Politicians will say whatever gets the vote and then they point fingers as to why they can’t get promises done. At re-election time they get voted in again despite being ineffective.

You want change then use your vote.

Why use my vote again? Enforce what we voted on. First you say It is because it's not really that important to voters, because they vote them in. Then turn around and say they make excuses for not doing what they promised. Which is it? They voted them in to take care of something and they do care, and were hoodwinked by politicians. Hold them accountable. Don't vote them in. The law is not being enforced. Some voters don't care because it helps their agenda.

 

[comana]

Why use my vote again? Enforce what we voted on. First you say It is because it's not really that important to voters, because they vote them in. Then turn around and say they make excuses for not doing what they promised. Which is it? They voted them in to take care of something and they do care, or they were hoodwinked by politicians. Hold them accountable. Don't vote them in. The law is not being enforced. Some voters don't care because it helps their agenda.

How else can the elected be held accountable except to be voted out? If people will not vote out the ineffective in Congress then nothing will change.

 

[ralliann]

How else can the elected be held accountable except to be voted out? If people will not vote out the ineffective in Congress then nothing will change.

How is it congress that refuses to enforce our laws? The laws are there, by congress. They did their Job. However, those laws are not being enforced. Hold those accountable that are responsible to enforce those laws and are not doing it.

 

[Pommer]

Sorry for that. You have no distinction between a liberal democrat and a socialist, marxist, communist democrat. I admit it is getting harder to distinguish them.

Do you know that a foreign-national must be physically present in the USA to make an asylum claim?
(And no, it doesn’t matter if they’re “illegal”.)

 

[ralliann]

Do you know that a foreign-national must be physically present in the USA to make an asylum claim?
(And no, it doesn’t matter if they’re “illegal”.)

Copy and pasted from
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• Immigration Direct

"Applying for Asylum or Refugee Status
One major difference between applications for asylum or refugee status is where the application is made. Refugees are required to apply from outside the United States, whereas people requesting asylum must apply either at a US border (airports, seaports) or from within the US." End quote