Border Crisis

[ralliann]

Not that I can see. Simply being here illegally is not in any way stop anyone from voting.

Bingo, including those who come here illegally.

 

[Belk]

Bingo, including those who come here illegally.

Conspiracy forum is that a way ------->

 

[Arcangl86]

And how many democrats support what is going on at the border. You nor anyone else has any right to put this on all democrats. Sure the socialists and the communists in that party will support it. Not all democrats are Communists and socialists, or marxists.

Actually, the socialists and communists in the party don't support what is going on at the border, because of how many people are getting deported. But that had nothing to do with my post. Are you going to address the substance of that?

 

[ralliann]

Actually, the socialists and communists in the party don't support what is going on at the border, because of how many people are getting deported.

LOL, here it is they don't want them deported, they want to give them the right to vote........Their illegal entry is nothing to these people, it supports their agenda.

But that had nothing to do with my post. Are you going to address the substance of that?

Yeah, it had all to do with your post as your admission shows.

 

[ralliann]

Conspiracy forum is that a way ------->

Oh yeah the news feed stuff.

 

[ralliann]

Illegal immigrants don’t can’t vote. No immigrants can vote until they are citizens.

Both parties are equal in wanting to be majority in power, so the question still remains- Why don’t Republicans appeal to immigrant citizens?

The republicans are appealing to citizens. The democratic communists etc appeal to making illegals legal. They ignore their illegal status. Therefore they will vote for them. It is really not that difficult. Just the terms are twisted. Immigrants, legal or illegal, they are all the same to them. Just drop whether they are legal or illegal altogether. Immigrants, Legally made citizens. Again the term legally. We don't appeal for votes to immigrants as though they are a distinct group, or class from citizenship. We don't appeal to people who just of their own accord walk across our border for votes. But that is the framework by which it is spoken of by them in continually dropping notions of legality.

 

[Arcangl86]

LOL, here it is they don't want them deported, they want to give them the right to vote........Their illegal entry is nothing to these people it supports their agenda.

And you know what's actually happening at the border? Massive numbers of people are being deported. And even those who enter illegally can't vote.

Yeah, it had all to do with your post as your admission shows.

Really? What does the fact that communists and socialists (who are actually in the minority of the party) want a more admissive immigration policy to have to do with the fact that Biden is deporting large numbers of people at the border? Or that demographics already benefit the Democratic Party? Or that there is currently no basis for people who immigrated here illegally to have the ability to vote. And even if we were to base our future projections on the most likely bill to be passed, that they still wouldn't have the right to vote for at least 15 years.

 

[Belk]

Oh yeah the news feed stuff.

The "this is unevidenced claptrap" stuff.

 

[ralliann]

And you know what's actually happening at the border? Massive numbers of people are being deported. And even those who enter illegally can't vote.

Really? What does the fact that communists and socialists (who are actually in the minority of the party) want a more admissive immigration policy to have to do with the fact that Biden is deporting large numbers of people at the border?

Again the terms here. "More admissive", This speaks to a policy or policies which do not exist. Therefore they are not here legally, and they are not being bussed and flown into other areas legally. They just want more of this...

Or that demographics already benefit the Democratic Party?

Who cares about this? I am concerned about the communists, and marxist, of the party running roughshot here in this administration.

Or that there is currently no basis for people who immigrated here illegally to have the ability to vote.

The communists and marxist don't care about that. Just like they want all the illegals to be allowed to be flown and bussed into the country illegally.

And even if we were to base our future projections on the most likely bill to be passed, that they still wouldn't have the right to vote for at least 15 years.

They don't care about policies they don't like. We see that now. When I say "they", I am not putting this on "democrat citizens", as I do agree with you most democrat voters would not support the faction in that party..

 

[ralliann]

And you know what's actually happening at the border? Massive numbers of people are being deported. And even those who enter illegally can't vote.

More by far are coming in than are not.

Really? What does the fact that communists and socialists (who are actually in the minority of the party) want a more admissive immigration policy to have to do with the fact that Biden is deporting large numbers of people at the border? Or that demographics already benefit the Democratic Party? Or that there is currently no basis for people who immigrated here illegally to have the ability to vote. And even if we were to base our future projections on the most likely bill to be passed, that they still wouldn't have the right to vote for at least 15 years.

Large numbers can be anything. Percentage matters. What ultimately matters? They all should be deported and come here legally. But law means nothing to these people.
Just like defund the police, steal if you want, but don't take more than one thousand dollars when you do, go live in someone else's home, we won't let them evict you, they can pay the mortgage anyway. It's all the same thing.

 

[ralliann]

Conspiracy forum is that a way ------->

Oh, so this forum is only for yours? LOL

 

[wing2000]

if Republicans can’t win elections with immigrants then the problem is Republicans not immigrants.

Immigrants from Mexico, Central America are generally more socially conservative than the American voter and would be more aligned with social conservatives. The Republican Party has made a conscious choice to use illegal immigration as a wedge issue, and in the process, has alienated not only the potential votes of future citizens, but also existing Latino voters. This is ultimately a losing strategy, as we saw in the last election (Red Arizona is now represented by two democratic senators - thanks in large part to the latino vote).

 

[wing2000]

They all should be deported and come here legally. But law means nothing to these people.

Have you ever spoken with or otherwise interacted with "these people"?

 

[ralliann]

Immigrants from Mexico, Central America are generally more socially conservative than the American voter and would be more aligned with social conservatives. The Republican Party has made a conscious choice to use illegal immigration as a wedge issue, and in the process, has alienated not only the potential votes of future citizens, but also existing Latino voters. This is ultimately a losing strategy, as we saw in the last election (Red Arizona is now represented by two democratic senators - thanks in large part to the latino vote).

This isn't even about conservative and liberal. This is about a faction being called liberal, which lumping communists marxists etc with liberals. This I think is an idicator than they indeed are a minority so far. The pretense of just being liberal hides from the forefront the difference. Sadly that faction is in control in this adminstration. Remeber Biden saying "I am no socialist", ackowledging that democrats would not for the most part want what these factions bring.. They want this to be democrate against republican.

 

[wing2000]

This isn't even about conservative and liberal. This is about a faction being called liberal, which lumping communists marxists etc with liberals. This I think is an idicator than they indeed are a minority so far. The pretense of just being liberal hides from the forefront the difference. Sadly that faction is in control in this adminstration. Remeber Biden saying "I am no socialist", ackowledging that democrats would not for the most part want what these factions bring.. They want this to be democrate against republican.

I have no idea what that means.

 

[ralliann]

Have you ever spoken with or otherwise interacted with "these people"?

No and I do not need to. That is not the issue. It is about the lawlessness of our government, and our constitution. If I want knowledge of the border situation I will hear what the border agents says and the people affected by this in the border states.

 

[ralliann]

I have no idea what that means.

Sorry for that. You have no distinction between a liberal democrat and a socialist, marxist, communist democrat. I admit it is getting harder to distinguish them.

 

[wing2000]

No and I do not need to. That is not the issue. It is about the lawlessness of our government, and our constitution. If I want knowledge of the border situation I will hear what the border agents says and the people affected by this in the border states.

Right, considering the perspective of "these people" is totally out of the question right?

 

[ralliann]

Right, considering the perspective of "these people" is totally out of the question right?

The perspective of these people? Since when did that become the standard for immigration. I have heard comments concerning this. From border patrol and reporters. Now that we go here, lets just begin to argue over who has the facts about the proper perspective

 

[Belk]

Oh, so this forum is only for yours? LOL

Feel free to articulate the conspiracy theory I have advanced in this forum.