Data: Most in new surge of Israel’s Covid cases were vaccinated

[HARK!]

The vast majority of new serious cases of Covid in Israel are vaccinated individuals, author and independent journalist Alex Berenson noted.

Israel and the UK “are much better at providing data than the United States — they provide updates every day, which limits their opportunities to manipulate it,” he noted.

Data: Most in new surge of Israel’s Covid cases were vaccinated

 

[Tanj]

Meanwhile, if we move away from hyper partisan US propaganda outlets....

Serious COVID cases pass 500 for 1st time since March as outbreak surges

Health Ministry data showed that the rate of serious cases was far higher among unvaccinated Israelis aged 60-plus, who constituted 134.1 people per 100,000 in serious condition on Saturday; among the vaccinated the figure was 20, and among the partially vaccinated 35.5.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The vast majority of new serious cases of Covid in Israel are vaccinated individuals, author and independent journalist Alex Berenson noted.

Israel and the UK “are much better at providing data than the United States — they provide updates every day, which limits their opportunities to manipulate it,” he noted.

Data: Most in new surge of Israel’s Covid cases were vaccinated

This is an article written about a blog post. The blog post was by a journalist who doesn't have any experience or training in heath statistics. In his post he *invents* characteristics about the unvaccinated, elderly population of Israel:

Because the tiny fraction of older people who are unvaccinated in Israel at this point are almost certainly materially different than the vast majority who are. As far as I know, the Israel government hasn’t broken out the differences. But given the pressure to vaccinate, a significant number of those older unvaccinated people are likely simply too sick to tolerate the vaccine - especially those over 80, where overall vaccination rates are even higher.

Though he *admits* he doesn't have the data, he just presents his supposition that the unvaccinated elderly are different *materially* than the vaccinated.

Berenson is a former business reporter and novelist and does not have any expertise in epidemiology or health statistics. He is:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

Please post better source articles and please stop reading anything by Alex Berenson.

 

[HARK!]

Meanwhile, if we move away from hyper partisan US propaganda outlets....

Serious COVID cases pass 500 for 1st time since March as outbreak surges

August 15, 2021 Who wants yesterday's paper?

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Over half of Thursday's confirmed cases, 53%, were identified in individuals who had been vaccinated for the disease, the Health Ministry said, while 43% of those who tested positive were unvaccinated.


Monday Aug 16, 2021


Vaccinated Israelis account for 53% of new daily COVID cases

 

[HARK!]

This is an article written about a blog post. The blog post was by a journalist who doesn't have any experience or training in heath statistics.

You can find that work here: Quick update on the Israeli vaccine data

 

[Tanj]

August 15, 2021 Who wants yesterday's paper?

Who wants facts or truth you mean? I clearly pointed out that the breakdown of the over 60s is well known, despite the make believe @Hans Blaster pointed out from your source.

Vaccinated Israelis account for 53% of new daily COVID cases

So what we want is an article from 3 days ago? (August 13, 2021). Classic.

 

[Hans Blaster]

You can find that work here: Quick update on the Israeli vaccine data

You're still quoting a bad source.

 

[HARK!]

Who wants facts or truth you mean? I clearly pointed out that the breakdown of the over 60s is well known, despite the make believe @Hans Blaster pointed out from your source.

It would stand to reason that the most serious cases are going to be for the unvaccinated, over 60, who were too sick to get the vaccine to begin with.

If we were to take those who's health was already in jeopardy out of the picture; it would bring a boost to boost the percentage of the vaccinated who are contracting Covid, compared to the unvaccinated.

 

[Tanj]

It would stand to reason that the most serious cases are going to be for the unvaccinated, over 60

Indeed.

who were too sick to get the vaccine to begin with.

Pure make believe.

If we were to take those who's health was already in jeopardy out of the picture

You haven't put them in the picture yet.

 

[HARK!]

You're still quoting a bad source.

Maybe you would prefer this one:


YERUSHALAYIM - Over half of Thursday’s confirmed cases, 53%, were identified in individuals who had been vaccinated for the disease, the Health Ministry said, while 43% of those who tested positive were unvaccinated.

Vaccinated Israelis Account for More Than Half of New COVID Cases; Nearly 500 in Serious Condition | Hamodia.com

 

[Sparagmos]

August 15, 2021 Who wants yesterday's paper?

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Over half of Thursday's confirmed cases, 53%, were identified in individuals who had been vaccinated for the disease, the Health Ministry said, while 43% of those who tested positive were unvaccinated.


Monday Aug 16, 2021


Vaccinated Israelis account for 53% of new daily COVID cases

Why are you conflating cases with hospitalizations? The vaccine doesn’t stop you from testing positive, as we all know. It greatly reduces the severity and chance of being hospitalized or dying.

 

[HARK!]

Pure make believe.

Is this make believe?

According to the latest figures, more than 78 percent of Israelis eligible for vaccination have been inoculated

Israel vaccine data: How many have already been inoculated for COVID

On Wednesday morning, the Health Ministry reported 694 people were being treated in Israeli hospitals for the virus, among them 400 in serious condition, with 64% of those patients defined as serious cases being fully vaccinated, compared with 32% who were not.

COVID cabinet approves new restrictions as cases soar

 

[HARK!]

Why are you conflating cases with hospitalizations? The vaccine doesn’t stop you from testing positive, as we all know. It greatly reduces the severity and chance of being hospitalized or dying.

See post 12.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

As vaccination rates go up, the anti-vaxxers are going to be regurgitating these kinds of stories for weeks aren't they?

Meanwhile, the statistics show that hospitalisations and serious COVID cases are down, proving beyond a doubt that the vaccine works.

You would think that the massive own-goal by another anti-vaxxer on these boards, who tried the same angle but whose link proved the vaccine was working would stop them, but no......

 

[Hans Blaster]

Maybe you would prefer this one:


YERUSHALAYIM - Over half of Thursday’s confirmed cases, 53%, were identified in individuals who had been vaccinated for the disease, the Health Ministry said, while 43% of those who tested positive were unvaccinated.

Vaccinated Israelis Account for More Than Half of New COVID Cases; Nearly 500 in Serious Condition | Hamodia.com

Well, at least it's not known to be a bad source by me. Though, I've never heard of it. The "National" tab was kind of weird being all news about the US, which is not what I would expect from an Israeli newspaper. Maybe it's some sort of location tracking backfilling the feed with information about my country.

 

[HARK!]

As vaccination rates go up, the anti-vaxxers are going to be regurgitating these kinds of stories for weeks aren't they?

Meanwhile, the statistics show that hospitalisations and serious COVID cases are down, proving beyond a doubt that the vaccine works.

JERUSALEM - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has just added Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip to its list of places where travel is not recommended because of growing rates of COVID-19. On Monday, for the first time since February, Israel documented just under 6,000 new cases, almost 400 of them serious. The increase comes despite Israel’s decision to give a third vaccination to all adults over 60.

Israel was one of the first countries in the world to roll out a vaccine program, and the first to offer a third shot to adults over 60.

Despite that, the number of people contracting COVID-19 continues to climb. Professor Salman Zarka, Israel’s coronavirus czar, says the country is approaching a critical point.

COVID-19 Cases in Israel Rise Despite Third Shot for Those Over 60

 

[BobRyan]

Is this make believe?

According to the latest figures, more than 78 percent of Israelis eligible for vaccination have been inoculated

Israel vaccine data: How many have already been inoculated for COVID

On Wednesday morning, the Health Ministry reported 694 people were being treated in Israeli hospitals for the virus, among them 400 in serious condition, with 64% of those patients defined as serious cases being fully vaccinated, compared with 32% who were not.

COVID cabinet approves new restrictions as cases soar

Interesting - thanks for sharing that.

Here is something to look at -

Should we get a third vaccine shot? The answer isn’t so simple - ISRAEL21c
"With Wuhan, the vaccine was up to 90% effective against infection and 95% effective against symptomatic disease. With Delta, it looks to be about 30-40% effective against infection and 90% effective against disease. During the last two months, the number of serious cases has gone up less than tenfold despite the number of cases going up more than 100-fold. So, the vaccine is doing the job. In general, vaccines prevent disease much more than they prevent infection."

And in another earlier report: July 26
from: Covid and Pfizer: What has Israel discovered so far? - ISRAEL21c

• ...analysis of medical records of tens of thousands of members of Israeli HMO Leumit Health Fund suggests that people vaccinated before late February are now twice as likely to experience a breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 infection than are people vaccinated since late February. It is unknown whether this is because most early vaccinators were elderly and/or had chronic health issues, or because the effect of the Pfizer vaccine may be waning over time.

 

[High Fidelity]

JERUSALEM - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has just added Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip to its list of places where travel is not recommended because of growing rates of COVID-19. On Monday, for the first time since February, Israel documented just under 6,000 new cases, almost 400 of them serious. The increase comes despite Israel’s decision to give a third vaccination to all adults over 60.

Israel was one of the first countries in the world to roll out a vaccine program, and the first to offer a third shot to adults over 60.

Despite that, the number of people contracting COVID-19 continues to climb. Professor Salman Zarka, Israel’s coronavirus czar, says the country is approaching a critical point.

COVID-19 Cases in Israel Rise Despite Third Shot for Those Over 60

We already know the vaccine doesn’t eliminate the risk of contracting it or spreading it. It does reduce the risk of both and more importantly it reduces the risk of hospitalisation, severe illness and death significantly.

I mean, this is pretty obvious stuff. Are you genuinely unaware?

 

[HARK!]

We already know the vaccine doesn’t eliminate the risk of contracting it or spreading it. It does reduce the risk of both and more importantly it reduces the risk of hospitalisation, severe illness and death significantly.

I mean, this is pretty obvious stuff. Are you genuinely unaware?

The majority of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) patients in an Israeli hospital are fully vaccinated, including those with severe disease, according to one of the hospital’s doctors.

On Aug. 5, Dr. Kobi Haviv, medical director of Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem, said in a Channel 13 TV News interview, “95% of the severe patients are vaccinated.” Furthermore, “85-90% of the hospitalizations are in fully vaccinated people” and the hospital is “opening more and more COVID wards.”

Most COVID-19 Patients at Israel Hospital Fully Vaccinated, Doctor Calls Mandates ‘Diabolic’ - Vision Times

 

[Tanj]

Is this make believe?

According to the latest figures, more than 78 percent of Israelis eligible for vaccination have been inoculated

Israel vaccine data: How many have already been inoculated for COVID

On Wednesday morning, the Health Ministry reported 694 people were being treated in Israeli hospitals for the virus, among them 400 in serious condition, with 64% of those patients defined as serious cases being fully vaccinated, compared with 32% who were not.

COVID cabinet approves new restrictions as cases soar

What does this deflection into other statistics have to do with your repetition of fantasy about the unvaccinated over 60 being due to those "who were too sick to get the vaccine to begin with."

Run dodge, conflate, confuse, none of that is going to work on me. It's your exact quote:

It would stand to reason that the most serious cases are going to be for the unvaccinated, over 60, who were too sick to get the vaccine to begin with.

Pure, unadulterated make believe.