More than 150 Houston hospital workers fired or quit after refusing COVID-19 vaccine

[GOD Shines Forth!]

What you favor is virtuous, therefore those whom disagree with you should be fired and mocked. No protection under the law.

Nailed it.

 

[ralliann]

No. You surely cannot believe this is a proper answer. It is obvious that I am not saying that recalcitrant health care workers should be fired "because I say so".

They....are....a.....health.....threat!!!

Why are you so clearly misrepresenting me?

No, the unvaccinated are a health risk to themselves. You all just say it's ok for them to be fired if their Employer desires.

 

[trunks2k]

No, the unvaccinated are a health risk to themselves. You all just say it's ok for them to be fired if their Employer desires.

As has been explained to you numerous times, NO THEY DO NOT POSE A RISK JUST TO THEMSELVES.

Some people cannot be vaccinated even if they wanted to, for some others the vaccine just doesn't work (for a variety of reasons). This is especially an issue in a hospital environment where you have a higher than normal number of imuno-compromised people. Not to mention things like being unvaccinated allowing for more transmission of the disease, which increases the chance of a variant arising that the vaccine is less effective against.

 

[expos4ever]

If I work in a construction area, I MUST wear a hard hat, even though I don't want to because it messes up my hair.

"I don't wear a hard-hat often, but when I do, it's a Clark Brain-Protector 3000!"

 

[cow451]

But we can't have safety for ourselves? We are not talking about messing up hair. We are talking about people having to be forced to take a vaccine that we don't know much about. Which those who get the vaccine are not at risk, so...Why force others out of a job over their own choice.

We know plenty about it. To say otherwise is inaccurate.

 

[cow451]

"I don't wear a hard-hat often, but when I do, it's a Clark Brain-Protector 3000!"

But SGOTI said it was made in CHY-na using materials containing lithium mined from Denmark and leaves a microchip in your hair. Plus. it does not hold enough ice to chill a Modelo.

 

[essentialsaltes]

No, the unvaccinated are a health risk to themselves.

The very concept of contagious disease demonstrates you are wrong.

 

[expos4ever]

Which those who get the vaccine are not at risk,

You have been repeatedly told that this is not correct.

It appears you are deliberately misleading readers - are you?

 

[expos4ever]

Nailed it.

Incorrect.

Are you, like others, intentionally trying to deceive readers? If you have been reading, you will know that the argument is that the unvaccinated workers pose a health threat. You are misrepresenting us by casting us in the position of being in favour of arbitrary dismissal of health care workers.

 

[ralliann]

You have been repeatedly told that this is not correct.

It appears you are deliberately misleading readers - are you?

Their is alot of misleading going on IMO. How many died of Covid? Or were just listed that way? Ya got a vaccine. Let people choose. Totalitarianism isn't the answer. Neither is virtue signaling.

 

[ralliann]

The very concept of contagious disease demonstrates you are wrong.

Then just get on with it. Strap em down and shoot em up, or lock em up. There is no trust anymore. You right now have the power of the government behind you to fulfill your views. So just get on with it.

 

[trunks2k]

Their is alot of misleading going on IMO. How many died of Covid? Or were just listed that way? Ya got a vaccine. Let people choose. Totalitarianism isn't the answer. Neither is virtue signaling.

Well over 500,000 people in the US in under a year.

Between March 2020 and early Jan 2021, there were 522,368 more deaths than we would have normally expected for that time period. I'm curious what you would attribute those excess deaths to.

 

[ralliann]

You have been repeatedly told that this is not correct.

We have been told alot of things. Varying opinions are out there on all things. Different doctors saying different things. But you want to force what you believe and who you believe on others. Ah, I guess those which do not trust won't get locked up, to expensive. Just take their livlihood instead. They do deserve it. So virtuous.

It appears you are deliberately misleading readers - are you?

Uh huh? So says you. The environment has been created for the distrust. Flip flopping, so called science in one direction. Then all the other stuff being pushed in a totalitarian manner. You just don't care that it is this kind of behavior that helps fuel the distrust.

 

[BigDaddy4]

Totalitarianism here?

Extremism anyone?

 

[ralliann]

Extremism anyone?

Yeah there is that, extremism that causes distrust. Science? Doesn't exist in who is male or female. Indoctrinating children in school. They accuse of abusive parents to not give them hormone blockers. Force, based on a denial of science. You are racist if you are white, just because you are, because they say so. This is the stuff that makes people not trust anything. That is their doing. Then to accuse of all kinds of mocking comments because they distrust you? Punish the stupid fools with no income. We have sense enough to treat an animal with trust issues with more compassion and understanding. But then again to you maybe they desreve it more than anti vaxxer because you say so.

 

[whatbogsends]

Well over 500,000 people in the US in under a year.

Between March 2020 and early Jan 2021, there were 522,368 more deaths than we would have normally expected for that time period. I'm curious what you would attribute those excess deaths to.

It's widely acknowledged that there are extra deaths due to suicide as well as from not seeking/receiving medical attention that they normally would have due to the pandemic.

By June 30, 2020, because of concerns about COVID-19, an estimated 41% of U.S. adults had delayed or avoided medical care including urgent or emergency care (12%) and routine care (32%). Avoidance of urgent or emergency care was more prevalent among unpaid caregivers for adults, persons with underlying medical conditions, Black adults, Hispanic adults, young adults, and persons with disabilities.

Delay or Avoidance of Medical Care Because of COVID-19–Related Concerns — United States, June 2020 | MMWR (cdc.gov)

A major new study has identified 2085 excess deaths in England and Wales due to heart disease and stroke during the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic. On average, that is 17 deaths each day over four months that probably could have been prevented.

Excess deaths are the number of deaths above what is normally expected – and the figure relates to the period from 2 March to 30 June, 2020. The scientists believe the excess deaths were caused by people not seeking emergency hospital treatment for a heart attack or other acute cardiovascular illness requiring urgent medical attention, either because they were afraid of contracting COVID-19 or were not referred for treatment.

Thousands of excess deaths from cardiovascular disease during the COVID-19 pandemic (clinicalnews.org)

The pandemic’s hidden victims: Sick or dying, but not from the coronavirus - Chicago Tribune

To be sure, Coronavirus has killed many, but not all excess deaths are caused by the virus, although most are linked to the pandemic as treatment was delayed due to conditions brought about by the pandemic, as well as mental health issues due to life during the pandemic.

 

[cow451]

Extremism anyone?

Extremism in the defense of antivaxxers is no vice?

 

[ralliann]

Extremism in the defense of antivaxxers is no vice?

Aw, it's a vice to distrust these powers that be. Because they say so. Punish those stupid fools.

 

[KCfromNC]

It's a larger legal question. Not specific to this case. Do we want a society where employers (or anyone) can dictate others must submit to any experimental invasive drug or procedure against his will or will be heavily penalized?

Won't the free market take care of this?

But let's not allow too much hyperbole here - various employers and schools have required vaccinations before. The sky didn't fall then, it isn't falling now.

 

[KCfromNC]

But we can't have safety for ourselves? We are not talking about messing up hair. We are talking about people having to be forced to take a vaccine that we don't know much about.

I can't say what "we" know, but I'm pretty sure it is highly effective at controlling a dangerous disease.