What about the differences between chimps and humans?

[Occams Barber]

Then how did whales predate land animals?

They didn't. Whales evolved from a land animal.

OB

 

[AV1611VET]

No, because Darwin was still bound by the Victorian period ethics and morals that saw that racial inequality be seen as a fact of life and nature.

Should have listened to Charles Spurgeon, shouldn't he have?

 

[AV1611VET]

They didn't. Whales evolved from a land animal.

OB

Is that what their dead bones tell you?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Should have listened to Charles Spurgeon, shouldn't he have?

I don't see how that would have helped change Darwin's views, or even made a dint in Victorian era views on race.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't see how that would have helped change Darwin's views, or even made a dint in Victorian era views on race.

So was he a Victorian-era racist in spite of the U.S. Constitution, or with respect to it? or maybe he wasn't familiar with it?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So was he a Victorian-era racist in spite of the U.S. Constitution, or with respect to it? or maybe he wasn't familiar with it?

... Darwin was British. Britain didn't and doesn't follow the American Constitution.

 

[Occams Barber]

Is that what their dead bones tell you?

Oddly enough it was bones which provided the first evidence for a link between a land animal and whales.

From Evolution: Library: Whale Evolution (pbs.org)

In 1978, paleontologist Phil Gingerich discovered a 52-million-year-old skull in Pakistan that resembled fossils of creodonts -- wolf-sized carnivores that lived between 60 and 37 million years ago, in the early Eocene epoch. But the skull also had characteristics in common with the Archaeocetes, the oldest known whales. The new bones, dubbed Pakicetus, proved to have key features that were transitional between terrestrial mammals and the earliest true whales. One of the most interesting was the ear region of the skull. In whales, it is extensively modified for directional hearing underwater. In Pakicetus, the ear region is intermediate between that of terrestrial and fully aquatic animals.

(The site also has a 5 minute video for anyone who's interested in whale evolution)

OB​

 

[Shemjaza]

Actually it's not because it can't be shown to be correct. It's a hypothesis, one of several theories of origins.

As usual, you are mistaken.

The evidence from genetic and fossil remains leads to the conclusion about common descent. That is how is is "shown to be correct", there may be other ideas about origins, but I am unaware of any other "theories" in the scientific sense about orignins.

A scientific theory must explain evidence, not just assert its correctness in a fit of bravado and religious conviction.

 

[Occams Barber]

So was he a Victorian-era racist in spite of the U.S. Constitution, or with respect to it? or maybe he wasn't familiar with it?

You think Darwin was an American?

Given all the evo discussions you've been involved with you should hang your head in shame.

OB

 

[AV1611VET]

... Darwin was British. Britain didn't and doesn't follow the American Constitution.

Okay. What about the Magna Charta?

 

[AV1611VET]

You think Darwin was an American?

Given all the evo discussions you've been involved with you should hang your head in shame.

OB

LOL

Why do you think I said, "Or maybe he wasn't familiar with it?"

 

[HitchSlap]

They didn't. Whales evolved from a land animal.

OB

Yep. Twice!

 

[Occams Barber]

LOL

Why do you think I said, "Or maybe he wasn't familiar with it?"

No wriggling out of this one AV. We have you pinned by your (very substantial) ears.

I will never let you forget this one. Revenge is mine sayeth OB

(PS: It's Magna Carta - not Magna Charta)

OB

 

[renniks]

Except that it's not. As a historical example, the Mongol Empire lasted from 1206 AD to 1368 AD. The Roman Empire lasted from 31BC until 1453AD.
Guess which one was the tribe that just went around killing people?

The Romans certainly did just that. Wiped out entire cities.

 

[renniks]

Because that is not how the theory works, someday you may learn a little about it, but with your abhorrence of learning we hold little hope.

Insults are all you have?

 

[renniks]

No, because Darwin was still bound by the Victorian period ethics and morals that saw that racial inequality be seen as a fact of life and nature.

He wasn't racist because of his time period. He was racist because of his belief in the ToE.

 

[renniks]

The evidence from genetic and fossil remains leads to the conclusion about common descent.

That depends on how it's interpreted.

 

[AV1611VET]

(PS: It's Magna Carta - not Magna Charta)

Got it! Thanks for the correction!

 

[Shemjaza]

That depends on how it's interpreted.

That's the thing about science, you can explain the chains of reasoning and justification.

Wanting something to be true and ranting, just doesn't cut it.

 

[Shemjaza]

He wasn't racist because of his time period. He was racist because of his belief in the ToE.

Do you have a coherent point about Darwin being racist?

It's completely irrelevant to the evidence for the Theory of Evolution.

Wernher von Braun was a Nazi, but that doesn't mean that rockets are fake.