Should we all...

[lambofgod43985889]

...use payots?

 

[com7fy8]

Please tell us what a "payot" is, and why you are asking this.

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

What is payots?

 

[com7fy8]

Possibly, you mean "payout". Let me check this, to see what this means, so I might get an idea about how this could be a moral and philosophical question.

It looks like it can mean different things. So, I think you need to tell us what you are in question about.

In case you mean the government paying out big checks to Americans during the pandemic . . . it depends on how well people use and invest the money. So, I would say there is no set rule about if payouts are good or bad, with this meaning. I think the American pandemic payout could be good, because they did not try to control who got it and what we did with it. There were well-to-do people who used it to love others, while there were poor people who might have wasted it, while other poor people did what is honorable. So, there was good potential.

A payout can be the interest or dividend you get for invested money. This can be good . . . again, depending on how well someone uses their money. It can be good to maintain an investment so you get a steady supply of income as interest. Instead of selling all your stock and spending all the money all at once, using it all up, it might be wise to get a little interest at a time and make good use of it over a long time.

Then there are payouts of insurance, for medical lawsuits and auto accident claims. It can be good to have this way of making sure victims have money after they have suffered because of accidents and medical malpractice. But I think the amount paid should be fair. The companies should be honest, but victims need to be honest and first depend on God.

An issue is if we are depending on God, or are we depending on and wishing for money so we can have our own control to get what we want?

"But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." (1 Timothy 6:9-10)

So, a person does not get into trouble by having money, but because of how they "desire". You can have no money, but still have deep trouble because of how you "desire" . . . in your heart. God cares about how we are in our hearts; He does not want us to be pierced "through with many sorrows".

I think we can see how certain greedy people have suffered and lost so much. They can have so much, but not know how to love in marriage, for one example.

But ones with nothing can be greedy, too. I have seen how ones on the street can fail to be able to love.

Because they have not invested in finding out how to love.

If you get a payout, you need to not be under the power of it >

"I will not be brought under the power of any," our Apostle Paul says, in 1 Corinthians 6:12.

Our attention, then, needs to be to God and discovering what He has us doing . . . how He guides our attention.

 

[lambofgod43985889]

Please tell us what a "payot" is, and why you are asking this.

What is payots?

Possibly, you mean "payout". Let me check this, to see what this means, so I might get an idea about how this could be a moral and philosophical question.

It looks like it can mean different things. So, I think you need to tell us what you are in question about.

In case you mean the government paying out big checks to Americans during the pandemic . . . it depends on how well people use and invest the money. So, I would say there is no set rule about if payouts are good or bad, with this meaning. I think the American pandemic payout could be good, because they did not try to control who got it and what we did with it. There were well-to-do people who used it to love others, while there were poor people who might have wasted it, while other poor people did what is honorable. So, there was good potential.

A payout can be the interest or dividend you get for invested money. This can be good . . . again, depending on how well someone uses their money. It can be good to maintain an investment so you get a steady supply of income as interest. Instead of selling all your stock and spending all the money all at once, using it all up, it might be wise to get a little interest at a time and make good use of it over a long time.

Then there are payouts of insurance, for medical lawsuits and auto accident claims. It can be good to have this way of making sure victims have money after they have suffered because of accidents and medical malpractice. But I think the amount paid should be fair. The companies should be honest, but victims need to be honest and first depend on God.

An issue is if we are depending on God, or are we depending on and wishing for money so we can have our own control to get what we want?

"But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." (1 Timothy 6:9-10)

So, a person does not get into trouble by having money, but because of how they "desire". You can have no money, but still have deep trouble because of how you "desire" . . . in your heart. God cares about how we are in our hearts; He does not want us to be pierced "through with many sorrows".

I think we can see how certain greedy people have suffered and lost so much. They can have so much, but not know how to love in marriage, for one example.

But ones with nothing can be greedy, too. I have seen how ones on the street can fail to be able to love.

Because they have not invested in finding out how to love.

If you get a payout, you need to not be under the power of it >

"I will not be brought under the power of any," our Apostle Paul says, in 1 Corinthians 6:12.

Our attention, then, needs to be to God and discovering what He has us doing . . . how He guides our attention.

I am referring to that hair that Jews.. Orthodox Jews let grow at the side of their heads

Maybe it is not necessary like the baptism in water but it would be a nice thing

 

[Ceallaigh]

Payot (Hebrew: פֵּאָה‎, plural: פֵּאוֹת) is the Hebrew term for sidelocks or sideburns. Payot are worn by some men and boys in the Orthodox Jewish community based on an interpretation of the Tenach injunction against shaving the "sides" of one's head.
Mishneh Torah: Avodath Kokhavim 12:6

“You shall not shave around the sides of your head, nor shall you disfigure the edges of your beard.” Leviticus 19:27

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

I am referring to that hair that Jews.. Orthodox Jews let grow at the side of their heads

Maybe it is not necessary like the baptism in water but it would be a nice thing

Should you? No - Christians are not bound by the law
Can you? - yes if you want to, just don't make it some kind of legalistic requirement for other Christians.

 

[lambofgod43985889]

Should you? No - Christians are not bound by the law
Can you? - yes if you want to, just don't make it some kind of legalistic requirement for other Christians.

Law is compatible with a Christian faith, law doesn't harm the belief in Jesus.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Law is compatible with a Christian faith, law doesn't harm the belief in Jesus.

"Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted."—1 Tim. 1

 

[lambofgod43985889]

Law is for sinners, then.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Law is for sinners, then.

It diagnoses sin. Didn’t mean to sidetrack your thread, that just came to me when reading your reply.

 

[lambofgod43985889]

It diagnoses sin. Didn’t mean to sidetrack your thread, that just came to me when reading your reply.

I think payots are nice.

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

Law is compatible with a Christian faith, law doesn't harm the belief in Jesus.

Law is also the covenant made between God and Israel and not part of the New Covenant through Jesus.

Also Law can be harmful to the belief in Jesus (Galatians, Acts 15, Romans).

 

[renniks]

I think payots are nice.

I think they look like a pain to maintain, and I prefer to not have dangly hair. But no one is stopping you if that's your style.

 

[lambofgod43985889]

I think they look like a pain to maintain, and I prefer to not have dangly hair. But no one is stopping you if that's your style.

It is a piece of hair. Wash it with shampoo, and the complication is solved.

 

[renniks]

It is a piece of hair. Wash it with shampoo, and the complication is solved.

Still not seeing the point. I'm not Jewish. I was not commanded to wear them.

 

[Ceallaigh]

I think they look like a pain to maintain, and I prefer to not have dangly hair. But no one is stopping you if that's your style.

Easy maintenance payots:

 

[lambofgod43985889]

Still not seeing the point. I'm not Jewish. I was not commanded to wear them.

You don't need to be commanded.

 

[renniks]

Easy maintenance payots:

Is that following the biblical rule? I don't think so.

 

[renniks]

You don't need to be commanded.

Yes I actually do. Why wear funny curls otherwise?