No Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter

[renniks]

"All Lives Matter" or "Blue Lives Matter" slogans were pretty obviously dreamed up, not as a meaningful critique of the BLM movement where the person saying these things absolutely agreed in the sanctity of life and that "police are important". Too many of the people who trotted out these lines did not really comport their arguments in line with the idea that all lives matter and frankly, more than a few people who said blue lives matter, didn't really have much to say about the cop who died on jan 6 nor the many cops injured (and certainly appeared totally uninterested in the racism cops experienced) that day.

Though it's quite likely some people still repeat these lines and perhaps truly do think that they matter, it caused me to wonder.

If you can't recognize the struggles of others or even acknowledge them and prefer to simply abandon them or ignore them, it seems FAR more precise to say that "No Lives Matter" instead of all lives.

If all lives mattered, you'd be able to recognize other people's struggles. Especially when they provide data and anecdotal evidence.

Yeah, I do acknowledge that the police struggle and how hard it is to be one.
I do acknowledge that we all struggle with something.

 

[Ken-1122]

While commenting on a child definitely not reacting to what she (or her parents) “see in the media” but out & about with a homemade sign explaining to us what their message actually is?
Priceless.

And where do you think that message came from? You can't be so far gone as to believe these children just decided to make that sign themselves are you? The sign isn't even in child's writing! C'mon you know better than that.

 

[Pommer]

And where do you think that message came from? You can't be so far gone as to believe these children just decided to make that sign themselves are you? The sign isn't even in child's writing! C'mon you know better than that.

Okay, her mother (may have) done the lettering, so what?
Is it your contention that ordinary black citizens cannot formulate and articulate their own thoughts?

 

[Aldebaran]

First of all, you underestimate kids, as they're a lot smarter than you think.

Second of all, none of you even attempted to address the actual message. It seems you're not even able to comprehend the concept that is being conveyed here.

Were these kids ever taught about the trained Marxists that founded that organization, or what Marxism is all about, and how many people have died as a result of it?

 

[rambot]

Yeah, I do acknowledge that the police struggle and how hard it is to be one.
I do acknowledge that we all struggle with something.

Nobody argues that points

 

[Aldebaran]

Okay, her mother (may have) done the lettering, so what?
Is it your contention that ordinary black citizens cannot formulate and articulate their own thoughts?

The point is that the ordinary black citizens in this case are the parents, not the kids. Therefore, when someone makes a post that says:

A little child can understand this, why can't you?

and then posts that picture, the implication is that the kids made the sign and understand what it says. Now that you know that that's not the case, let's try to get back to what was being discussed here, ok?

 

[Pommer]

The point is that the ordinary black citizens in this case are the parents, not the kids. Therefore, when someone makes a post that says:


and then posts that picture, the implication is that the kids made the sign and understand what it says. Now that you know that that's not the case, let's try to get back to what was being discussed here, ok?

And yet we’re still talking about “they’re protesting wrong”, not the actual content of the sign.
Well done!

 

[Aldebaran]

And yet we’re still talking about “they’re protesting wrong”, not the actual content of the sign.
Well done!

If the content was thought to be good enough, they wouldn't have to use their children to display it.

 

[Pommer]

If the content was thought to be good enough, they wouldn't have to use their children to display it.

Psalms 8:2
“Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.” (KJV)

 

[Aldebaran]

Psalms 8:2
“Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.” (KJV)

Except it was by the hand of adults who seeketh to exploit their own babes to furthereth their views.

 

[rambot]

If the content was thought to be good enough, they wouldn't have to use their children to display it.

What does that even mean????

 

[Pommer]

What does that even mean????

“They’re protesting wrong!”

 

[Aldebaran]

“They’re protesting wrong!”

Exploiting one's children is rarely "right".

 

[Pommer]

Exploiting one's children is rarely "right".

“Come on, we’re going to protest, get your things and get your sister, you won’t be bored, it’ll be fun! Look, I made a sign for you to hold!”
What terrible parenting!

 

[rambot]

Exploiting one's children is rarely "right".

How are the children being exploited?

The hyperbole...

 

[renniks]

Nobody argues that points

Good then saying " all lives matter" is legit.

 

[Pommer]

Good then saying " all lives matter" is legit.

And (now), what does it mean?

 

[LockeeDeck]

Let's get back to the content of the sign rather than who is holding it,

We said -> Black lives matter
We never said -> Only black lives matter
We know -> All lives matter

We just need YOUR HELP with #Blacklivesmatter
for black lives are in danger!

For those that defend saying "All lives matter", what do you find objectionable with the content of this sign?

 

[renniks]

And (now), what does it mean?

It means exactly what it says. Race is irrelevant. Wealth is irrelevant. All the things we use to divide ourselves into groups is irrelevant. All lives equally matter.

 

[renniks]

Let's get back to the content of the sign rather than who is holding it,



For those that defend saying "All lives matter", what do you find objectionable with the content of this sign?

The group that promotes it is pushing black power and a Communist agenda.

 

[LockeeDeck]

The group that promotes it is pushing black power and a Communist agenda.

Their keystone issue is police abuse, who do kill way more people than other police forces in other countries (justified or not). So if "all lives matter" then surely there is a parallel group tackling the same issue without any "communist agenda"?