What is the purpose of life? [moved]

[TedT]

Only 1/3 of the world population are Christian. Are over 5 billion people destined for hell?

When the demons put their faith in the idea that YHWH was a liar and a false god they knew that if HE ever proved HE was indeed our creator GOD that by their decision to reject HIM as a false god and a liar they would go to the hell forever. And yet, in light of this knowledge, they were so fiercely committed to their idea they choose to accept banishment to the outer darkness rather than ever bow to HIM as GOD or become HIS bride in the heavenly future.

Much more than 5 billion people are doomed because most of Christian society are not elect, imCo. But so what? This is a small number compared to the countless, countless numbers of the true Church. If ALL but one died forever by making a wrong true free will choice and ONE chose to be HIS Bride in faith, then all of creation was worth it. The disvalue of evil is ultimate - that is, there are no small sins and if sin separates one from GOD then so be it.

HE gave us a free will to put our faith in HIM or to reject HIM. The decision to reject HIM doesn't make HIM less or less worthy or less divine but only defines the person as unworthy of their creation to be HIS Bride.

 

[TedT]

Sounds akin to nihilism.

Only without GOD and redemption...

 

[AV1611VET]

Only 1/3 of the world population are Christian.

Are over 5 billion people destined for hell?

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

And for the record, of those 5 billion people, subtract anyone who hasn't reached the age of accountability yet, e.g., the children (2.2 billion) and the mentally handicapped, and more are going to Heaven than some think.

 

[AV1611VET]

Reference, please?

1 Corinthians 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[Frank Robert]

Only without GOd and redemption...

It is the belief that ""Everyone loves...even those addicted to evil which subverts their pure love into a self service and self aggrandisement, making it 'not love'" that is akin to nihilism.

 

[TedT]

When the demons put their faith in the idea that YHWH was a liar and a false god they knew that if HE ever proved HE was indeed our creator GOD that by their decision to reject HIM as a false god and a liar they would go to the hell forever.

To add: This panet is a prison for only the reprobate demonic satanists and those few elect who rebelled against the judgment of their friends who were self created satanic demons.

The numbers of any group here have NO relationship to the vast numbers of holy elect persons who put their faith in YHWH and HIS Son and stayed faithful to that decision.

The populace of a prison has no relationship to the total numbers of any group of prisoners in the prison to the total numbers of the populace not in the prison! Such an equation is absurd!

 

[AV1611VET]

We are all alive and living in this world.

For now, yes.

This is where we need to have God as our reality.

This is where it begins.

2 Corinthians 6:2 ( For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation. )

It's not about jumping the Grand Canyon or how far a flee or frog can jump.

That's right. I used that analogy that man, no matter how good he is, cannot pull himself up to Heaven by his own bootstraps.

Its about Heart.

Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

It's about being a more human, Human Being.

I can't be more human than I am now. I was born a human being, and I'll die a human being.

Being an activity of God, our Soul is the jump between Heaven and Earth already.

Then why couldn't the rich man jump that gap?

In fact, not even Abraham could.

Luke 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

 

[Frank Robert]

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

And for the record, of those 5 billion people, subtract anyone who hasn't reached the age of accountability yet, e.g., the children (2.2 billion) and the mentally handicapped, and more are going to Heaven than some think.

Still a lot of people especially when you include 2/3 of the previous 108 billion who have already died all for not being born in the right religion.

 

[AV1611VET]

It would appear so(?)
Exclusionism .. and (literally) to hell for the rest 'em, it seems!

There are exceptions, as I pointed out.

 

[Frank Robert]

When the demons put their faith in the idea that YHWH was a liar and a false god they knew that if HE ever proved HE was indeed our creator GOD that by their decision to reject HIM as a false god and a liar they would go to the hell forever. And yet, in light of this knowledge, they were so fiercely committed to their idea they choose to accept banishment to the outer darkness rather than ever bow to HIM as GOD or become HIS bride in the heavenly future.

Much more than 5 billion people are doomed because most of Christian society are not elect, imCo. But so what? This is a small number compared to the countless, countless numbers of the true Church. If ALL but one died forever by making a wrong true free will choice and ONE chose to be HIS Bride in faith, then all of creation was worth it. The disvalue of evil is ultimate - that is, there are no small sins and if sin separates one from GOD then so be it.

HE gave us a free will to put our faith in HIM or to reject HIM. The decision to reject HIM doesn't make HIM less or less worthy or less divine but only defines the person as unworthy of their creation to be HIS Bride.

Don't you know that your religion has much more to do with the one you were born into than than anything else?

 

[dlamberth]

One can be a human Human without the need for souls, heavens and gods, too!

All true.
When exploring the inner being though, those who look through the lens of non-duality tend to look to our Human essence as being our Soul. It's just a different way of perception and consciousness.

 

[dlamberth]

For now, yes.This is where it begins.

2 Corinthians 6:2 ( For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation. )That's right. I used that analogy that man, no matter how good he is, cannot pull himself up to Heaven by his own bootstraps.

Man can't. But seeing through ones Heart that is connected to ones Soul is a different matter. It's where God is made a reality in ones' life as is Heaven around us. We live in wonder and the divine splendor of God while at the same time having our feet on the ground.

 

[AV1611VET]

Man can't. But seeing through ones Heart that is connected to ones Soul is a different matter. It's where God is made a reality in ones' life as is Heaven around us. We live in wonder and the divine splendor of God while at the same time having our feet on the ground.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Do you fear God?

 

[dlamberth]

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Do you fear God?

I find myself unable to fear that which I Love.

 

[AV1611VET]

I find myself unable to fear that which I Love.

Are you quoting Steve Irwin, just before he met his demise?

 

[dlamberth]

Are you quoting Steve Irwin, just before he met his demise?

I have no idea who Steve Irwin is. I’m out here in the garden otherwise I’d google him.

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

I have no idea who Steve Irwin is. I’m out here in the garden otherwise I’d google him.

another What Me Worry throwaway. Steve Irwin.

 

[dlamberth]

another What Me Worry throwaway. Steve Irwin.

Oh..."The Crocodile Hunter".
Thanks!

 

[Hans Blaster]

To add: This panet is a prison for only the reprobate demonic satanists and those few elect who rebelled against the judgment of their friends who were self created satanic demons.

Only if you don't own your own rocket. (See: Elon Musk)

 

[TedT]

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

And for the record, of those 5 billion people, subtract anyone who hasn't reached the age of accountability yet, e.g., the children (2.2 billion) and the mentally handicapped, and more are going to Heaven than some think.

The age of accountability seems like a myth to me that is used to deny the sinfulness of infants doctrine but it fails. Death is the wages for sin, not a consequence of life in a sinful world. Infants of all ages die and there can be no death without sinfulness. Do we think that the holy and elect angels who came to sing to the Shepherds at Christ's birth could die, could be killed?

Death proves sin.
Infants die.
Elect infants are saved from the consequences of life and sin and return to their Bishop and saviour, 1 Peter 2:25 with
Ps 51:6
New International Version
Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place.

New Living Translation
But you desire honesty from the womb, teaching me wisdom even there.

Non-elect infants return to Sheol,
Ps 9:17
English Standard Version
The wicked shall return to Sheol, all the nations that forget God.

Berean Study Bible
The wicked will return to Sheol—all the nations who forget God. to await the end of the postponement of their banishment to the outer darkness.