Pope Francis backs same-sex civil unions

[HIM]

and racists say that racial equality is a sin, something forbidden by God. SO back to my question - what makes all those racists wrong and you right?

Who cares what a racist says. God denounces the sin and those with the heart for it. All nations and people destroyed in the Bible were destroyed due to their sinful acts, not their skin color. So your point is mute.

 

[HIM]

Which is why they seek forgiveness.

REPENTANCE is what we need. God gives that with His forgiveness. In God's forgiveness is a taking away, a lifting of the sin from us. It is God that works in us both to will and do His good pleasure. If Jesus has set us free free we are indeed.

If we think we are a homosexual we are feeding into our hearts and minds desires. We are saying we have not been delivered, we are still enslaved and thereby working against God, grieving His Spirit and eventually He will give us over to our reprobate mind.

After His Baptism Jesus fasted for 40 days.

We are to quick to jump out of the baptismal into this world and our relationship with God suffers for it.

 

[Strathos]

REPENTANCE is what we need. God gives that with His forgiveness. In God's forgiveness is a taking away, a lifting of the sin from us. It is God that works in us both to will and do His good pleasure. If Jesus has set us free free we are indeed.

If we think we are a homosexual we are feeding into our hearts and minds desires. We are saying we have not been delivered, we are still enslaved and thereby working against God, grieving His Spirit and eventually He will give us over to our reprobate mind.

After His Baptism Jesus fasted for 40 days.

We are to quick to jump out of the baptismal into this world and our relationship with God suffers for it.

Sexual orientation is innate, but you can always resist the temptation to act on your urges.

 

[HIM]

Sexual orientation is innate, but you can always resist the temptation to act on your urges.

Sexual orientation is a heart/flesh issue. If it ain't as God would have then we are in sin.

 

[Belk]

Who cares what a racist says. God denounces the sin and those with the heart for it. All nations and people destroyed in the Bible were destroyed due to their sinful acts, not their skin color. So your point is mute.

I agree. We should likewise ignore those who claim homosexuality is an issue. Some will always find reason for exclusion in the bible.

 

[JohnDB]

I agree. We should likewise ignore those who claim homosexuality is an issue. Some will always find reason for exclusion in the bible.

Especially those who are Homosexuals...there are so few of them to begin with that they have to broadcast extremely loudly to find someone else who agrees with their perversion. They want not just tolerance but acceptance to the point of promotion.
Until the species known as the human race is gone.

 

[Belk]

Especially those who are Homosexuals...there are so few of them to begin with that they have to broadcast extremely loudly to find someone else who agrees with their perversion. They want not just tolerance but acceptance to the point of promotion.
Until the species known as the human race is gone.

I have talked to many homosexuals and they want nothing of the sort. However demonizing and othering is what I have come to expect from many Christians.

 

[Strathos]

Sexual orientation is a heart/flesh issue. If it ain't as God would have then we are in sin.

Everyone is tempted to sin. What matters is recognizing that and resisting it.

 

[SilverBear]

It's not comparable. That would be like comparing a Honda Civic to a steam train. Just because both transport people does not make them in anyway the same thing.

God created the variety of skin colours, hair and eyes colours and facial features and called them all very good.
Genesis 1:31
God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

God also lists sins, which have nothing to do with how people look. God doesn't care how people look on the outside and doesn't judge them for it and nor should Christians.
1 Samuel 16:7
But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."
We need to try and have that same attitude. It doesn't matter the skin colour, if someone is fat or thin, if they are crippled, ugly, disabled or unborn, all have the same worth. All are made in the image of God. But this has nothing to do with sin, which is what this topic is about.

Homosexuality is included in that list along with all other sexual sins which include heterosexual fornication and adultery but also small things like bad thoughts and greed to major things like murder and rape.

You are equating homosexuality with race because you don't believe homosexual practice to be sin, but God says it is. You believe it's something good because the majority of the culture that surrounds you thinks the same way. 100 years ago you would not have thought this way because the culture didn't think that way. Culture changes, God does not. The entire culture may decide that couples living together is as good as marriage, but God does not, his views don't change.

All unmarried Christians are called to be celibate.
This has nothing to do with society or the government, it's what God calls his people to do.

Sure it's comparable. The same arguments and rhetoric are used to justify both.


A hundred years ago people views prejudice and discrimination based on skin color to be perfectly normal and moral and that prejudice was backed up biblically.

 

[SilverBear]

Who cares what a racist says.

Good people do

 

[SilverBear]

Especially those who are Homosexuals...there are so few of them to begin with that they have to broadcast extremely loudly to find someone else who agrees with their perversion. They want not just tolerance but acceptance to the point of promotion.
Until the species known as the human race is gone.

just like how those sick left handed people expect the good right handed people of the world to not just accept their perversion but to promote it.

Not sure how either of these things would be promoted but leave it to those lefty perverts to demand it.

 

[HIM]

I have talked to many homosexuals and they want nothing of the sort. However demonizing and othering is what I have come to expect from many Christians.

And God. For it is He that works in us both to will and do His good pleasure.

 

[HIM]

Good people do

Not in respect to the hash you are serving

 

[HIM]

Sure it's comparable. The same arguments and rhetoric are used to justify both.


A hundred years ago people views prejudice and discrimination based on skin color to be perfectly normal and moral and that prejudice was backed up biblically.

Sin is the issue regardless what it is, it is an offense to God. Homosexuality included.

 

[HIM]

Everyone is tempted to sin. What matters is recognizing that and resisting it.

A admitted homosexual is not tempted, they are what they profess. They are therefore not of God.

 

[HIM]

REPENTANCE is what we need. God gives that with His forgiveness. In God's forgiveness is a taking away, a lifting of the sin from us. It is God that works in us both to will and do His good pleasure. If Jesus has set us free free we are indeed.

If we think we are a homosexual we are feeding into our hearts and minds desires. We are saying we have not been delivered, we are still enslaved and thereby working against God, grieving His Spirit and eventually He will give us over to our reprobate mind.

After His Baptism Jesus fasted for 40 days.

We are to quick to jump out of the baptismal into this world and our relationship with God suffers for it.

 

[Belk]

And God. For it is He that works in us both to will and do His good pleasure.

I do not believe you speak for an all powerful deity. I believe you simply express your own opinion no different from any other human being.

 

[HIM]

I do not believe you speak for an all powerful deity. I believe you simply express your own opinion no different from any other human being.

You are right I do not speak for the Almighty. You misunderstand a lot.
Take care.

 

[Belk]

You are right I do not speak for the Almighty. You misunderstand a lot.
Take care.

I do not think you have any insight into my understanding any more then you do a gods. Perhaps you should stick to speaking for yourself?

 

[Strathos]

A admitted homosexual is not tempted, they are what they profess. They are therefore not of God.

That makes no sense. You can be homosexual without acting on it. Just like you can be heterosexual without acting on it.