Lin Wood says Sidney Powell's lawsuit "speaks TRUTH" and will be filed tomorrow

Zanting

not so new
Mar 15, 2012
2,366
464
✟47,296.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
You do understand the accused in this lawsuit is republican governor Kemp, right?

The accused are any and all government officials and others who allowed Dominion to tally votes specifically to generate their machine made President and eliminating the votes made the people.

Furthermore, election integrity has nothing to do with which political party you associate with and republican turncoats are nothing new...nor are democratic turncoats (#walkaway).

So I fail to see what point you are trying to make.
 
Upvote 0

trunks2k

Contributor
Jan 26, 2004
11,369
3,520
41
✟270,241.00
Faith
Humanist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
The accused are any and all government officials and others who allowed Dominion to tally votes specifically to generate their machine made President and eliminating the votes made the people.
GA uses dominion voting machines extensively.

The machines print out a physical copy of the ballots that the voter can see before casting a vote, which are then securely stored.

GA did a hand recount of all the physical ballots.

That hand recount matched the machine results.

Please explain how the machines switched votes.
 
  • Optimistic
Reactions: whatbogsends
Upvote 0

KCfromNC

Regular Member
Apr 18, 2007
28,741
16,055
✟490,114.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Because we all know that when you give the impression of utter incompetence and disconnection with reality like the rantings of a crazy person, people will see how brilliant your argument actually is!!!
</sarcasm>
Some do seem to be drawn to that sort of behavior.
 
Upvote 0

Zanting

not so new
Mar 15, 2012
2,366
464
✟47,296.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
The world is laughing. Or feeling offended about bizarre Jesus/Trump associations. Or both.

Really...you truly believe that voter fraud is a laughing matter around the globe? Someone has not done a deep dive into dominion or Eric Coomer or Joe Oltmann. People from other nations certainly have and they aren't laughing at all.

Voter fraud has plagued many nations for decades and is a very serious concern for all countries citizens, particularly those nations that have used dominion machines. No one anywhere want their votes stolen. It is no laughing matter, not in the US or any country.

Everyone should want the facts and truth to come forward no matter which political side you identify with or who you think won. It is either arrogance or ignorance to state this is a laughing matter anywhere in the world.

Many should heed the quote Doug Mastriano used from John Adams so appropriately..."Facts are stubborn things. They cannot be altered by our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions." Just imagine...Senator David Argall's office alone received over 25,000 complaints...let me say that again25,000 complaints of issues, concerns, irregularities and out right fraud that US citizens witnessed and experienced at polling stations in various locations throughout the state of Pennsylvania.

I commend and pray for the safety of all the people involved on legal teams and all the brave US citizens who have come forward as witnesses to the horrendous acts reported that have shamefully occurred during this US election. This is finally being dealt with so this kind of fraud cannot ever happen again anywhere.

The people know that President Donald Trump has been elected by them for a second term in office with a landslide win. He will be inaugurated on January 20, 2021 much to the dismay of the globalist communist agenda.

And finally...People who have problems with a Trump Jesus connection don't believe, or can't conceive that God is in control of all things. That's on them and the relationship they have, or don't have, with our Savior Jesus.
 
Upvote 0

Zanting

not so new
Mar 15, 2012
2,366
464
✟47,296.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
GA uses dominion voting machines extensively.

The machines print out a physical copy of the ballots that the voter can see before casting a vote, which are then securely stored.

GA did a hand recount of all the physical ballots.

That hand recount matched the machine results.

Please explain how the machines switched votes.

Do a deep dive into Dominion, and Eric Coomer and what Joe Oltmann has reported and get back to me on that. Uninformed comments and questions are just that...uninformed...or even more likely evidence ignored and censored.

This will get you started on the many ways votes are manipulated by dominion machines, not just an ability to switch votes from one candidate to another.

Joe Oltmann | One America News Network
 
Upvote 0

trunks2k

Contributor
Jan 26, 2004
11,369
3,520
41
✟270,241.00
Faith
Humanist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
No, I'm not doing a deep dive. Please, in your own words, please explain how they were able to flip votes to Biden in GA when the physical ballots, which were counted by hand in their entirety, match the results of the machines.

As far as I can see, there's two possibilities:

1. Massive numbers of people never looked at the physical ballots the machines produced.
2. There was cheating in the hand recount.

If I am missing something, please let me know.
 
Upvote 0

Zanting

not so new
Mar 15, 2012
2,366
464
✟47,296.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
No, I'm not doing a deep dive. Please, in your own words, please explain how they were able to flip votes to Biden in GA when the physical ballots, which were counted by hand in their entirety, match the results of the machines.

As far as I can see, there's two possibilities:

1. Massive numbers of people never looked at the physical ballots the machines produced.
2. There was cheating in the hand recount.

If I am missing something, please let me know.

Yes...the link you ignored...it's right here Joe Oltmann | One America News Network
 
Upvote 0

trunks2k

Contributor
Jan 26, 2004
11,369
3,520
41
✟270,241.00
Faith
Humanist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Yes...the link you ignored...it's right here Joe Oltmann | One America News Network
Please, in your own words, explain how the physical ballots matched the machine count.

Are massive numbers of people not looking at the physical ballots before submitting their votes?

It's very simple.

1. GA uses dominion voting machines extensively.
2. The machines print out a physical ballot that the voter can see.
3. Those physical ballots were counted by hand during the audit after the election.
4. That count matched the count given by the machines.
5. Ergo, the machines are not switching votes because it would be seen in the physical ballots being different.

Please point out of the above what is wrong or missing that would affect #5.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Tom 1

Optimistic sceptic
Site Supporter
Nov 13, 2017
12,212
12,526
Tarnaveni
✟818,769.00
Country
Romania
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Really...you truly believe that voter fraud is a laughing matter around the globe? Someone has not done a deep dive into dominion or Eric Coomer or Joe Oltmann. People from other nations certainly have and they aren't laughing at all.

Voter fraud has plagued many nations for decades and is a very serious concern for all countries citizens, particularly those nations that have used dominion machines. No one anywhere want their votes stolen. It is no laughing matter, not in the US or any country.

Everyone should want the facts and truth to come forward no matter which political side you identify with or who you think won. It is either arrogance or ignorance to state this is a laughing matter anywhere in the world.

Many should heed the quote Doug Mastriano used from John Adams so appropriately..."Facts are stubborn things. They cannot be altered by our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions." Just imagine...Senator David Argall's office alone received over 25,000 complaints...let me say that again25,000 complaints of issues, concerns, irregularities and out right fraud that US citizens witnessed and experienced at polling stations in various locations throughout the state of Pennsylvania.

I commend and pray for the safety of all the people involved on legal teams and all the brave US citizens who have come forward as witnesses to the horrendous acts reported that have shamefully occurred during this US election. This is finally being dealt with so this kind of fraud cannot ever happen again anywhere.

The people know that President Donald Trump has been elected by them for a second term in office with a landslide win. He will be inaugurated on January 20, 2021 much to the dismay of the globalist communist agenda.

And finally...People who have problems with a Trump Jesus connection don't believe, or can't conceive that God is in control of all things. That's on them and the relationship they have, or don't have, with our Savior Jesus.

I've seen everything you consider to be 'proof', and it isn't proof; proof is not a subjective concept. There are things that are real, and things that aren't. Postal voting is a normal part of the election process in almost every developed country and no, it doesn't lead to 'massive fraud' as Giuliani claims. You'd be hard pressed to find any actual, real fraud from postal voting in recent decades, and certainly nothing significant. These are facts - no amount of engaging in online echo chambers changes anything in the real world, the changes only go on inside your own head.

Stop and think through what you are saying. Of course people who have been told repeatedly before the election even got started that there would be 'massive fraud', who have been coached to 'challenge anything' - without even knowing what it is they are challenging - and who are offered v generous financial incentives to find something somewhere that is fraudulent are going to complain. That is exactly what they have been trained to do. So what? What gives you the idea that allegation = reality?

Take something, anything, an actual instance of actual fraud and explain why you think it is actual fraud. 'Lots of people said so' or 'seems like something isn't right' are not proof of anything at all other than the effects of groupthink and the power of narratives. Demonstrate one case of actual fraud that can be proven - if you want some examples, the actual data from the WH identifies 1,071 cases of election fraud (all kinds of fraud, not just that related to mail voting) relating to a small number of votes from the last few decades. That gives you some actual cases of actual things that have actually happened in recent decades, not all of the info is accurate you can get a general idea. Then you can demonstrate how actual cases of fraud are essentially the same thing as lots of people repeating a lot of nonsense they don't even understand about how this or that standard procedure is an 'anomaly' or 'definitely an indicator of massive fraud' etc.
 
Last edited:
  • Winner
Reactions: whatbogsends
Upvote 0

essentialsaltes

Stranger in a Strange Land
Oct 17, 2011
33,708
37,031
Los Angeles Area
✟838,505.00
Country
United States
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Legal Union (Other)
Indeed...the lawsuit FOR THE PEOPLE has been filed in Georgia as the TRUTH keeps marching on.
You do understand the accused in this lawsuit is republican governor Kemp, right?

It's even better than that, really. Kemp and the others are being sued not personally, but in their official capacities as elected representatives of the people of Georgia.

The plaintiffs are suing to benefit Trump personally, not 'the office of president' or We The People.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: Tanj
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Bobber

Well-Known Member
Feb 10, 2004
6,608
3,098
✟218,654.00
Faith
Non-Denom
'Lots of people said so' or 'seems like something isn't right' are not proof of anything at all other than the effects of groupthink and the power of narratives

Wouldn't that all depend on just how huge the thing is you're talking about? If it goes beyond the law of probability that a certain narrative can be true then the Courts or Legislatures can step in and call another election in certain states or throw out the results. If I understand correctly the law, the Legislatures would pick their electors to the EC. Saying that it's clear the Founding Fathers and the Constitutions actually prepared for an election like this.
 
Upvote 0

Tom 1

Optimistic sceptic
Site Supporter
Nov 13, 2017
12,212
12,526
Tarnaveni
✟818,769.00
Country
Romania
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Wouldn't that all depend on just how huge the thing is you're talking about? If it goes beyond the law of probability that a certain narrative can be true then the Courts or Legislatures can step in and call another election in certain states or throw out the results. If I understand correctly the law, the Legislatures would pick their electors to the EC. Saying that it's clear the Founding Fathers and the Constitutions actually prepared for an election like this.

No, not at all. As whoever originally penned ‘the emporer’s new clothes’ astutely points out, the number of people who believe a thing is no measure of its veracity.

What you are describing is the overturning of a legitimate election by sheer force of deception. The whole approach of Trump and his legal team is to create doubt and confusion by flinging around as much nonsense as possible.
 
Upvote 0

LostMarbels

All-Lives-Matter
Jun 18, 2011
11,954
3,864
49
Orlando Fl
✟173,798.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Others
Please, in your own words, explain how the physical ballots matched the machine count.

Because the 'ballots' were counted. No matter how many times someone runs that stack of ballots thru, it will still be counted.

The issue is in verifying the ballots. All the envelopes were separated from the mail-in ballots making it impossible to verify which is legit and which is fraudulent. An example... if you have 10,000 ballots, you should have 10,000 envelopes to correspond with 10,000 applications that match signatures with those envelopes. That isn't happening. Instead, we are finding areas with 10K ballots, 0 (zero) signed envelopes, with some 3k applications in an area that only has 7k registered voters.
 
Upvote 0

trunks2k

Contributor
Jan 26, 2004
11,369
3,520
41
✟270,241.00
Faith
Humanist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Because the 'ballots' were counted. No matter how many times someone runs that stack of ballots thru, it will still be counted.
That's not what I'm asking. The claim is that Dominion voting machines switched votes. If the count of the physical ballots those machines produced (and voters could view & verify before submitting their vote) match the count that was reported by the machine, how are the machines switching votes?
 
Upvote 0

LostMarbels

All-Lives-Matter
Jun 18, 2011
11,954
3,864
49
Orlando Fl
✟173,798.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Others
That's not what I'm asking. The claim is that Dominion voting machines switched votes. If the count of the physical ballots those machines produced (and voters could view & verify before submitting their vote) match the count that was reported by the machine, how are the machines switching votes?

Because you are 'leading the whiteness' so to speak. When it comes to the physical ballots, there is a chain of custody and a method of verification that has not been upheld.

One cannot have more ballots than legal voters.

One cannot have more mail-in ballots than legal applications for those ballots.

Those mail-in ballots need to be verified by their signatures on the envelopes against voter registration logs and/or the application. The envelopes are gone. Thusly, there is no provenance to validate the ballots. Any manner of ballots could have been submitted without the chain of custody and no envelopes to verify signatures. The verified mail-in ballots + the machine produced ballots, should total the amount of votes casts. There is no way of verifying what is what.

There cannot be more votes than envelopes, and/ plus + people that are logged as casting their vote at that polling place.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

trunks2k

Contributor
Jan 26, 2004
11,369
3,520
41
✟270,241.00
Faith
Humanist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
You keep talking about mail in ballots. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the actual voting machines. The claim being made is that those machines are switching votes. Those machines produce physical ballots. Those physical ballots were counted and compares to the machine counts. They matched. So how are those machines switching votes? Is it your claim that someone then went and replaced the actual physical print outs of the ballots and not only did so in such a way to make the counts match, but NOBODY noticed?
 
  • Agree
Reactions: lasthero
Upvote 0

Vylo

Stick with the King!
Aug 3, 2003
24,732
7,790
43
New Jersey
✟203,665.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Others
Because you are 'leading the whiteness' so to speak. When it comes to the physical ballots, there is a chain of custody and a method of verification that has not been upheld.

One cannot have more ballots than legal voters.

One cannot have more mail-in ballots than legal applications for those ballots.

Those mail-in ballots need to be verified by their signatures on the envelopes against voter registration logs and/or the application. The envelopes are gone. Thusly, there is no provenance to validate the ballots. Any manner of ballots could have been submitted without the chain of custody and no envelopes to verify signatures. The verified mail-in ballots + the machine produced ballots, should total the amount of votes casts. There is no way of verifying what is what.

There cannot be more votes than envelopes, and/ plus + people that are logged as casting their vote at that polling place.
The problem with verifying signatures is that people don't maintain the same signature. A better system is to send a person a receipt for their vote. If you get a receipt when you know you didn't vote yet, or if it is for another candidate, then you know tomfoolery is afoot.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: lasthero
Upvote 0

Subduction Zone

Regular Member
Dec 17, 2012
32,629
12,068
✟230,461.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Because the 'ballots' were counted. No matter how many times someone runs that stack of ballots thru, it will still be counted.

The issue is in verifying the ballots. All the envelopes were separated from the mail-in ballots making it impossible to verify which is legit and which is fraudulent. An example... if you have 10,000 ballots, you should have 10,000 envelopes to correspond with 10,000 applications that match signatures with those envelopes. That isn't happening. Instead, we are finding areas with 10K ballots, 0 (zero) signed envelopes, with some 3k applications in an area that only has 7k registered voters.
I do believe that ballots have to be separated from their source. It is sort of in the Constitution. The vote is supposed to be anonymous. Once a ballot is accepted, and for a mail in ballot that would be based upon its signature, it has to be separated before it is counted.

Your complaint has no merit.
 
Upvote 0

LostMarbels

All-Lives-Matter
Jun 18, 2011
11,954
3,864
49
Orlando Fl
✟173,798.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Others
You keep talking about mail in ballots. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the actual voting machines. The claim being made is that those machines are switching votes. Those machines produce physical ballots. Those physical ballots were counted and compares to the machine counts. They matched. So how are those machines switching votes? Is it your claim that someone then went and replaced the actual physical print outs of the ballots and not only did so in such a way to make the counts match, but NOBODY noticed?

There cannot be more physical ballots produced by the machines than the total of people logged in when they register at the poll to vote.

So when you have more physical ballots than provenance to verify those ballots... what do you think that is?
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Subduction Zone

Regular Member
Dec 17, 2012
32,629
12,068
✟230,461.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Because you are 'leading the whiteness' so to speak. When it comes to the physical ballots, there is a chain of custody and a method of verification that has not been upheld.

Citation needed.

One cannot have more ballots than legal voters.

And once again, citation needed. Though there was record turnout I seriously doubt if there were more ballots than legal voters. Don't make the error of pointing to specific districts where that appears to be the case since the number of people that supposedly live in an area can be quite wrong at the end of a census period. Please note that the results from the 2020 census are not in yet.

One cannot have more mail-in ballots than legal applications for those ballots.

And once again citation needed.

Those mail-in ballots need to be verified by their signatures on the envelopes against voter registration logs and/or the application. The envelopes are gone. Thusly, there is no provenance to validate the ballots. Any manner of ballots could have been submitted without the chain of custody and no envelopes to verify signatures. The verified mail-in ballots + the machine produced ballots, should total the amount of votes casts. There is no way of verifying what is what.

What makes you think that is not what was done? In fact this appears to be another lie of the Trump campaign:

Trump Claims Georgia Didn’t Verify Mail-In Ballots. Here’s Why That’s A Lie.

You should be thanking me since I just did some of your homework for you.

There cannot be more votes than envelopes, and/ plus + people that are logged as casting their vote at that polling place.

Again citation needed. Find a reliable source to support your claims. Not some right wing whacko source. Don't forget the history of court cases so far. Almost all have been rejected due to the fact that they are accusations only with no supporting evidence.
 
  • Winner
Reactions: lasthero
Upvote 0