Why are there still apes?

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

So you believe that science has exhausted itself huh.

No; why would you think that?

How could a short human-run breeding programme leave evidence that it took millions of years?

 

[doubtingmerle]

Because apes don't bury their dead?

Huh? We have found fossils of intermediate creatures between apes and people because apes don't bury their dead? That makes no sense.

Why have we found a series of fossils of intermediates that, when arranged by date, indicate ape to human evolution? I think I know why we have found them. Why do you think they are there?

 

[doubtingmerle]

I'm not saying that I have a problem with evolution in general. I'm saying that I have a problem with a select few apes singing around the campfire, and grilling, and whatever the heck the OP was talking about.

Actually we are talking about homo erectus, which are the first hominids for which we have evidence of cooking. See Man Entered the Kitchen 1.9 Million Years Ago | Live Science .

coffee4u says that the homo erectus were fully human. So why is it that he says they are fully human, but you have a problem with the concept that they cooked?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why do you think they are there?

Because roadkill is seen more often than a body lying on the road?

 

[April_Rose]

Here's a really good response from @rockytopva that I really liked that I have permission to share. (So coincidence or not?)

To me the whole creation testfies to the fact that there is a God....

1. Field grass, corn, and wheat are a combination of sun, rain, and chlorophyll (C55H70O6N4Mg)
2. Cows turn that product to milk and meat.
3. Animals such as dogs with coats that can withstand weather and cold water.
4. Small insects with brains the size of a grain of sand that can make products such as honey.
5. An abundance of minerals and crude oil for our consumption.
6. The senses and man's ability to interpret his surroundings.
7. The chemistry of earths crust.

And especially the ability to sense God's Spirit in our life.

 

[April_Rose]

Not to mention the fact that science and history textbooks seem to be equal to a Bible for atheists of where they get their information from. Now that was a quote from me.

 

[rockytopva]

Here's a really good response from @rockytopva that I really liked that I have permission to share. (So coincidence or not?)

Thanks! And I pray blessings on your ministries and relationships in Jesus name! Father! Bless April_Rose in her health, ministries, and relationships! In Jesus name! Amen!

 

[April_Rose]

Thanks! And I pray blessings on your ministries and relationships in Jesus name! Father! Bless April_Rose in her health, ministries, and relationships! In Jesus name! Amen!

Thank you so much Rocky and you're welcome.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Here's a really good response from @rockytopva that I really liked that I have permission to share. (So coincidence or not?)

That's just one giant argument from incredulity.

 

[April_Rose]

You know what I give up. Jesus could be standing right in front of you performing miracles and you could still find ways to disprove that He isn't really the Son of God. Whatever,.. if you want to argue about things argue until you're blue in the face I don't care. You'll be the one to stand before God one day and His judgement while the rest of us will have the blood of Christ to cover us for our sins will only really matter in the end anyways not mine or anybody else's so why should I argue with someone who doesn't even care about Him since He's a big guy who can take care of Himself. SMH Just know that Jesus loves you no matter what and hopefully you'll see the truth soon.

 

[Tone]

How could a short human-run breeding programme leave evidence that it took millions of years?

What I was attempting to convey was, if we didn't know about stirring a shot of instant coffee into a cup of hot water and all we knew about was diffusion, we may assume that it took longer to prepare than it actually did. So long, in fact, that we would wonder how the coffee is still so hot.

I was using an analogy for how long evolutionists believe it took humans to develop.

My whole point is that a Conscious Process was involved.

* But you believe science is already so exhausted that it cannot show that.

 

[April_Rose]

I will go ahead and leave this conversation with this video.

 

[Tinker Grey]

You know what I give up. Jesus could be standing right in front of you performing miracles and you could still find ways to disprove that He isn't really the Son of God. Whatever,.. if you want to argue about things argue until you're blue in the face I don't care. You'll be the one to stand before God one day and His judgement while the rest of us will have the blood of Christ to cover us for our sins will only really matter in the end anyways not mine or anybody else's so why should I argue with someone who doesn't even care about Him since He's a big guy who can take care of Himself. SMH Just know that Jesus loves you no matter what and hopefully you'll see the truth soon.

When your argument devolves into threats, you've lost.

 

[AV1611VET]

When your argument devolves into threats, you've lost.

What if the person you threaten threatens back?

 

[April_Rose]

When your argument devolves into threats, you've lost.

It's not a threat,.. and besides that God's the one who said it not me so don't shoot the messenger.

 

[Tinker Grey]

It's not a threat,.. and besides that God's the one who said it not me so don't shoot the messenger.

If you say "You'll be the one to stand before God one day and His judgement while the rest of us will have the blood of Christ to cover us for our sins", it's a threat.

It means to any sapient reader that "if you don't agree with me -- and not agreeing with me is trying to prove God wrong -- you will face consequences." This is threat. And in the context of a discussion, you've run out of things to discuss and of evidence to present -- you lose.

And I am so tired of "God said it, not me." Own up to your stuff. You said it. Even if God said it, you repeated it and in this context you repeated it to threaten because you ran out of arguments. Own your words.

 

[April_Rose]

I have not run out of things to say I am simply done with this conversation because no matter what I say you won't listen to reason and fine so maybe I did say it,.. but I was quoting scripture. I feel sorry for you actually. @AV1611VET,.. since I am still learning scripture can you be so kind as to please show me the verse that says something about how unimaginable it is for the good that God has in store for those that love Him? I can't remember.

 

[Tinker Grey]

I feel sorry for you actually.

And I feel sorry for you, actually.

 

[April_Rose]

Not to mention the fact that if you didn't want to be judged what was the point of being an atheist coming onto a Christian forum? To mock us?

 

[Tinker Grey]

Not to mention the fact that if you didn't want to be judged what was the point of being an atheist coming onto a Christian forum? To mock us?

I was a Christian for my first 6 years here. I like it here, so I didn't leave.