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Is Mary the mother of God?

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He that is mighty has done great things to me! Lk 1:49

That’s where!


Mary was full of Grace! Lk 1:28
The Lord is with Her! Lk 1:28
highly favored! Lk 1:28
Found favor with God Lk 1:28
Esther type of Mary who saved Her people, Mary is the mother of our salvation! Lk 2:30 for all people Lk 2:31
Most blessed amping all women, so very different than other women! Lk 1:28 Lk 1:48
Perpetual Virgin! Lk 1:34
Her very soul magnifies the Lord! Lk 1:46
God rewards her great humility! Lk 1:48
He that is mighty has done great things to me! Lk 1:49
What things? Immaculate conception, sinless, purity, holiness, Queen of heaven receiving half of His kingdom, the mother of the king is always queen, Same with David and Solomon, Jesus is king! Lk 1:32

Is 7:14 a Virgin shall conceive and bear a son! (Singular)
Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
The only child of Mary is Jesus Christ the Holy Son of God!
 
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Mary is mother of God!
Immaculately conceived in her mother’s womb!
Sinless!
Perpetual Virgin!
Died and was assumed into heaven by Her Son body and soul!

All defined by the authority of the apostles! Mt 16:18
Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22
 
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Mary was full of Grace! Lk 1:28
The Lord is with Her! Lk 1:28
highly favored! Lk 1:28
Found favor with God Lk 1:28

Luke 1:28 28 And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favoured one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”

Yes, that is scriptural. No one is denying that she was favoured and blessed by God.

Esther type of Mary who saved Her people, Mary is the mother of our salvation! Lk 2:30 for all people Lk 2:31

Mary did not save anyone.
25 And behold, there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon, and this man was just and devout, waiting for the Consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27 So he came by the Spirit into the temple. And when the parents brought in the Child Jesus, to do for Him according to the custom of the law, 28 he took Him up in his arms and blessed God and said:


29 “Lord, now You are letting Your servant depart in peace,
According to Your word;
30 For my eyes have seen Your salvation
31 Which You have prepared before the face of all peoples,
32 A light to bring revelation to the Gentiles,
And the glory of Your people Israel.”


Mary and Joseph brought the infant Jesus to the temple. Simion held Jesus and said what he would do. Jesus was the salvation, a light and a glory, not Mary.

Most blessed amping all women, so very different than other women! Lk 1:28 Lk 1:48

28 And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favoured one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”
Again this simply says that she was favoured and blessed, nothing more.

For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant;
For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed.

And same again. Neither of these verses adds to the fact and no one is saying that Mary was not blessed.

Perpetual Virgin! Lk 1:34

That verse does not mention or even hint of perpetual virginity.
I notice you like to put down the shorthand of the verses but don't actually quote what the verses say, that you claim prove your point. Apparently that's my job.

34 Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”

A young girl, a virgin, tells an angel on one night of her life that she has not yet known a man. And from that, you build an entire doctrine claiming perpetual virginity for the rest of her life?

in fact, I should hope all Christian young people could say the same. Just because someone is a virgin before marriage (as they should be) does mean they stayed one once they were married and nothing in that verse indicates that Mary did.

12:46 While Jesus was still speaking to the crowds, his mother and brothers came and stood outside, asking to speak to him. 13:55 Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother named Mary? And aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

Matt. 12:46; 13:55; Mark 6:3; John 2:12; 7:3, 5, 10; Acts 1:14; 1 Cor. 9:5; Gal. 1:19 all mention his brothers.

She got married, she had Jesus she then went on and had other children-the normal way with her husband.

Her very soul magnifies the Lord! Lk 1:46

We should all magnify the Lord.

The Song of Mary
46 And Mary said:
“My soul magnifies the Lord,
47 And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.
48 For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant;
For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed.
49 For He who is mighty has done great things for me,
And holy is His name.
50 And His mercy is on those who fear Him
From generation to generation.
51 He has shown strength with His arm;
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
52 He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
And exalted the lowly.
53 He has filled the hungry with good things,
And the rich He has sent away empty.
54 He has helped His servant Israel,
In remembrance of His mercy,
55 As He spoke to our fathers,
To Abraham and to his seed forever.”


Notice Mary glorifies God, not herself. It is all about 'he' and 'his'. If you esteem her, follow her words and glorify God, not Mary. Holy is his name, not her name.


God rewards her great humility! Lk 1:48
48 For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant;
For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed.

and again, no one is not saying that she wasn't blessed.

God rewards all of his servants not just Mary
Colossians 3:23-24
Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving.


He that is mighty has done great things to me! Lk 1:49

God did and does mighty things in many people.

Isaiah 41:10
10 So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.


What things? Immaculate conception, sinless, purity, holiness, Queen of heaven receiving half of His kingdom, the mother of the king is always queen, Same with David and Solomon, Jesus is king! Lk 1:32

Is 7:14 a Virgin shall conceive and bear a son! (Singular)
Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
The only child of Mary is Jesus Christ the Holy Son of God!

Please find the verse saying Mary was sinless. I can't find one in my Bible. The only sinless person is Jesus. To say otherwise is a lie.
1 John:1
8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Mary was a human being, born of an earthly mother and father, she would have struggled with sin as much as anyone, which is why she looked to God as her saviour.
47 "And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior."
If she was sinless she would not be in need of a saviour.

Also, find the verse claiming that she is 'Queen of heaven'
If you mean Revelation 12:1, that women is the Jewish nation.

"Immaculately conceived in her mother’s womb!"
please find the scripture that says that as well
 
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One thing at a time please I know it’s a big subject?

Mary is the mother of our salvation, she brought us salvation, our salvation is not something but someone, Jesus Christ is our salvation and she is His mother!
Lk 2:30

and because she found favor from God!
And because she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38
 
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One thing at a time please I know it’s a big subject?

Mary is the mother of our salvation, she brought us salvation, our salvation is not something but someone, Jesus Christ is our salvation and she is His mother!
Lk 2:30

and because she found favor from God!
And because she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38

I will simplify it.
Scripture saying that she was
1) A perpetual virgin -the one you gave did not say that.
2) That she was sinless
3) That she is the Queen of heaven.
 
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Is 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Mary is the sign!

rev 12 :1 And there appeared a great sign in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars!

queen? Yes she has a crown!
Clothed with the sun, immaculate purity and holiness!

Mt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven..
 
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Lk 1:34 makes sense only if she is a perpetual Virgin who has made a vow to God!
She will not consent to be the mother of God or the mother of our salvation, if it means violating her vow of perpetual Virginity to God!
 
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In 431 C.E., a church council in Ephesus officially proclaimed Mary the “Mother of God.” Mary was chosen to be the vessel through which Christ was born and the person who would be his earthly mother. Joseph was his earthly father. I think calling Mary "mother of God" is not in the Bible. If this is in the Bible, please point me to the verse. I believe she is mother of part of the trinity; Jesus, the son.




 
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Mary is and was the mother of Jesus Christ,.. the Son of God. However God Himself existed long before she ever did and even though Jesus is a part of God I never believed that He was the Father Himself because He is the Son.
 
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In 431 C.E., a church council in Ephesus officially proclaimed Mary the “Mother of God.” Mary was chosen to be the vessel through which Christ was born and the person who would be his earthly mother. Joseph was his earthly father. I think calling Mary "mother of God" is not in the Bible. If this is in the Bible, please point me to the verse. I believe she is mother of part of the trinity; Jesus, the son.





Jesus, the Son, is God. The Son IS God. Mary is the mother of Jesus, the mother of God the Son. She is the mother of God Incarnate.

As far as Scripture goes,

"And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" - Luke 1:43

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Mary is and was the mother of Jesus Christ,.. the Son of God. However God Himself existed long before she ever did and even though Jesus is a part of God I never believed that He was the Father Himself because He is the Son.

Not part of God, fully God. Each Person is fully God. As the Son, Jesus is God.

When we say Mary is the mother of God we mean that she is the mother of Jesus, and that Jesus is God.

It has nothing to do with Mary and everything to do with Jesus.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Is Mary the mother of God?

Yes, Christ is God and Man and there never was never a time He was not God. It doesn't mean she gave origins to God but the since Christ is God see gave birth to God
 
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That is word semantics. Of course Jesus was fully God, but that is not what Mary gave him.

No one thinks she did. So non-sequitur.

She gave him his flesh, he was already God. God choose to dwell within her, but nobody is the 'mother of God', that twists the meaning.

No, it's a simple fact. Mary gave birth to God Incarnate.

Mary never claimed to be 'the mother of God'.
Luke 1:46-55
And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant.
She knew that God alone was her saviour and that she was his servant.


St. Elizabeth, her cousin, however declares her to be "the mother of my Lord", that's Scripture.

Giving birth to Jesus does not make her the 'mother of God'

That's exactly what it makes her. Just as it makes Joseph the foster-father of God. God was born of a virgin, God suffered on the cross, that's God there.

God chose Mary to be His mother when God took on flesh, become man.

Just because he chose to dwell within her does not make her 'God's mother'.

It really does though. That's exactly what it means. It means that God was born. God, who is eternal and without beginning, became flesh, and was conceived and born a man. That's the Gospel.

Without your mother you don't exist, God always existed as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus was there before he came as a baby.

No one thinks otherwise. But the Eternal Word, the very begotten of the Father, He who is God from all eternity, became a baby. Whose baby? Mary's baby.

You already know we don't believe in that Nestorianism rubbish and no one here is promoting that.

Then you should be able to freely admit that God came down and was born of Mary.

What is heresy is to keep calling Mary the 'mother of God' and elevating her to some high position in heaven to be prayed to and venertaed. Prayer and worship is to God alone.
Matthew 4:10
Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”

Meaningless strawman. Nobody is suggesting we worship Mary. This has nothing to do with Mary, it has everything to do with Jesus.

Of course, we do not deny that. No one is saying he is divided. We already had this conversation.

Then the Person that Mary gave birth to, that Person is God? Yes? So Mary gave birth to God yes?

Basic Christianity is believing that Jesus who is God came and died for our sins, rose again, and we follow him in faith as Lord and saviour.
Mary gave birth to our Lord, this isn't in question, but this does not make her the 'mother of God' which gives it an entirely different meaning to what she did. God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Colossians 1:15-17
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honour God with your bodies.

Did God die on the cross? Did God shed His blood for our sins? Yes or no?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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In 431 C.E., a church council in Ephesus officially proclaimed Mary the “Mother of God.”
In defence against a heresy which seperated Jesus into a human person and a divine person, instead of one person who is both human and divine. It is a christological statement declaring that Jesus who is God, is also man because He was born of a human mother.

It isn't about Mary, it is about Christ. If you claim it elevates Mary to some kind of demi-goddess status then you implicitly deny that Jesus is fully human.

It would serve people well to investigate the history and context behind the statement before weighing in on the subject. The early Church struggled with a number of heresies which taught different 'gospels' to that which the Apostles had preached, and it was necessary for them to come up with clear, unambiguous expressions which defended the faith which had been handed down.
 
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As far as Scripture goes,

"And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" - Luke 1:43
Important to note that Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit when she said that.
 
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Not part of God, fully God. Each Person is fully God. As the Son, Jesus is God.

When we say Mary is the mother of God we mean that she is the mother of Jesus, and that Jesus is God.

It has nothing to do with Mary and everything to do with Jesus.

-CryptoLutheran








Yes Jesus is a part of God because He is the Son of God. Just like we are our parents' children but it doesn't make us them directly. Jesus still can work all of God's miracles being His Son but I don't believe that He created the universe anymore than I believe that the Holy Spirit (also a part of God) created the universe even though all three of them are still very important.
 
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